nezumi
Feb 17 2006, 06:46 PM
Not like Gibson's material is 100% original.
Shrike30
Feb 17 2006, 09:14 PM
CyberPunk at least went out of their way to call him "the Patron Saint," put him in their list of "you should read this if you wanna think CP" books... given how much of SR's content is influenced by Gibson, you can understand the guy having a negative reaction when there's no acknowledgement he even exists.
SL James
Feb 17 2006, 09:47 PM
| QUOTE (Raskolnikov) |
The LAST thing we need is for Lucas to make an SR movie.
Well, allow me to rephrase. The last thing we who like gritty post-cyberpunk need is for Lucas to make an SR movie that would likely fit in well with the cartoonish mid-early third edition or the hollywood-anime of fourth edition thus far. |
I'll be perfectly blunt and say the setting for mid-to late third edition was hardly any better, if at all. At least Mike's vision had panache. The last couple of SBs read like they were written by people who spent too much time on Wikipedia.
tisoz
Feb 18 2006, 07:22 AM
| QUOTE (SL James @ Feb 17 2006, 03:47 PM) |
| At least Mike's vision had panache. The last couple of SBs read like they were written by people who spent too much time on Wikipedia. |
I have to agree and have said so in the past. Usualy getting slammed asked by a current author or two how it could be improved. I remember the early books being fun to read. The later books are a fucking chore to read.
My comparison is books like Nothing Down by Robert Allen as compared to a college Real Estate text book. You could read and understand 10 books like Allen's in the time it took to read and have the same comprehension of the single text book. Allen has to make you want to buy his books, many times the text book is written by the professor that requires the student to buy it, a bit of a captive audience.
We are like students of SR and think we have to buy every book that comes out or we are going to miss something. I think I have over a dozen SR books still waiting to slog through be read.
SL James
Feb 18 2006, 07:59 AM
Agreed. At least since SOTA64 and the ones I went back and got (like SOE) seemed interesting at first, but I'd be reading them and it was just painful to read them. The last one I was reading, I actually said out loud, "Jesus, it's been an hour. I'm still on [a specific chapter]!?" The first time I noticed this was reading through the magic chapters of SOTA64, and it's just gotten worse. The books even look like Wiki entries nowadays. It's about as fun as a rectal exam to read them, especially compared to stuff by Nigel, et al. PCC is f-ing crazy, but at least it's amusing. The parts of SOA I read looked like someone read The Economist or Wikipedia and just decided to throw in bits and pieces of it in there without any real understanding of what they had written.
And am I alone in seeing group after group being hailed as the baddest bunch of mofos in X or elsewhere? The Maori trolls were the last straw. I swear, it's like there was a Rift in the continuum or something with all the power creep of uber-groups in the last two years' worth of books.
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