The title is a bit self-explanatory.
Anyone know of any rule to "upgrade" aspectwed magicians to real magicians during the game?

Nope. No canon method of doing so, AFAIK. Anyone else know of anything?

nope, not possible. magic is not a skill lke in some systems, its an innate ability

either your born with it or your not

Yeah, but Great Dragons (or at least Dunkelzhan) say that all magic is the same and that all these distinctions (aspected, adept shamanic, hermetic, wujen etc.) are just stricture that the feeble human mind impose to itself in order to work it. He said to Mercury (an adept) that one day he could cast spells if he freed himself of his misconception about magic.

There are no rules to do that, but I'm guessing that a boatload of karma and some rping could justify an upgrade from aspected magician to full magician without breaking balance.

You just have to figure how much is worth the margin between a priority A and B in terms of Karma.

I would have to agree with Charon on this. Since, for the most part, magic is not fully understood, rising mana levels in general and mana spikes in a given location could produce something akin to an advanced awakening. It would of course not be without its price, and if there was no role playing, it would just as mysteriously fade away, were I running the game.

Mercury was a Drake, although he didn't know it at the time. Back when those books were written (before Drakes were available as PCs), all Drakes were considered Physical Magicians, so Dunky knew for a fact that Mercury would evolve and awaken more of his magical potential.

If you want to give aspected magicians a chance to "awaken" a bit more, you could use house-rule metamagic techniques that grant astral projection, access to a single school of magic or type of spirit, etc.

But if you want, you _can_ make your aspected adept, conjuror, or sorceror grow into a full mage using standard game mechanics.

You just pay the cost of being a full mage/physical magician when you make the character. Then, save on skill points by specializing in whatever your character is aspected for. Later, you can arrange with your GM to do something fun where your character can 'awaken' to his full potential.

Face it, buying the magic priority (in whatever system) basically just grants the ability to interact with the astral, and sets your character's magical potential. If you want a higher potential, pay for it. You don't really fulfill that potential until you buy the various skills that go with it.

Is it mechanically the most efficient way to make a beginning character? Of course not. But what do you expect for a character that is being defined as not using his full potential?

Just remember there are no concrete rules.

Blam! Blam! Blam!

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Well, to purchase an edge through RPing is like 10x the edge value in karma right? So if you take the 5 point difference between full and aspected magician (point build system of course) and make him pay 10 times that....

Of course, Roleplaying should play more a role than anything. Obviously the character would be going through quite a lot to make this change.

That phrase is thrown around a lot, but typically a 'Mary Sue' refers to a character in Fan Fiction that performs better, and interacts with established canon characters on a scale better than anyone else. It doesn't really appropriate when used in reference to actual canon material.

Um, here is where I see Rayn as a Mary Sue. One he interacts with NPCs who are canon, on a scale that is just recockulous. They way The Laughing Man, Big D, DK Big A, the blob, Dupree.

I mena look at his team, they are all uberly powerful, save the mages who die..Well Until you get to Tallon..Who is just a bad thing.

Well I guess my point is really that Rayn is more of a plot device than a character....

My point is that Ryan 'Munchkin' Mercury is himself a canon personality. Whatever he may do in the literature, twinked though it may be, can't really be attributed to him being a Mary Sue.

I agree with you in that he is a plot device though.

Changing an aspected mage into a full mage....

you could let the aspected mage initiate, and instead of gaining metamagics, the aspected mage could gain access to various abilities that they may lack. Conjuring, astral projection...whatever.

My 2 cents worth.