Let the numbers speak for themselves.

In the SR3 core book, the artwork shows in total:
Humans: 77 Males and 24 Females
Elves: 16 Males and 7 Females.
Orks: 20 Males and 1 Female.
Dwarves: 9 Males and 1 Female.
Trolls: 14 Males and no Females.

In the books I have with me, the following female, non-elf metahumans in artwork were in:

SR3 P.76 - an Ork Rat Shaman (considered "female" only due to the description beneath it).
SR3 P.78 - A Dwarf Raven Shaman
CC P.59 - Two fantasized (BTL-ed) "ork" prostitues, look far more similar to elves (except for tusks, that is).
Brainscan P.39 - Dwarf Ganger
SRC P.40 - a Gnome

I also know of one in Mercurial and one in another adventure.

The issue is that I have a hard time imagining my female Ork NPC. Humans I know how they look (from RL ) and there are enough Elves to see in SR3 artwork, but the "uglier" (from a corp's, and apparantly FASA's perspective) Metahumans are shown as Male-only.

Any fan-art in this department?

*damn funny* to me right now...thanks for the good laugh

Okay ... I have recently drawn Torz' orc sammy NPC (link and link). Also, there's a female orc (Fatima) depicted in SSG, in the reporter-interviews-shadowrunners section. I have yet to find a female troll though. Trying to draw one, as is, actually. If it turns out okay, I'll post it in the art attack thread.

I think that female orc in SSG is about the best example I've seen.

My friend and I have both taken a shot at interpreting her troll character. Hers looks like Disney's version of an eight foot tall nymph on steroids, mine looks like the troll on p. 17, CC, in drag.

There're some female ghouls in the glossies of Cyberpirates.

Harlequin one. p. 91. Back of the line. Female ork? Also on page 108. Well, the name tag says "Betty" anyway....

I thought there was a female orc in shades somewhere towards the back of NAGNA. That's the part I'm missing, though.

NAGRL, p. 6. Too old n' ugly to be an elf. And size-compare to the guy next to her. An ork?

Guys, everyone knows all female metahumans are elves, and all female elves are lesbians. No one knows why, exactly. I mean, that damn Awakening, it did some crazy things. We're all just going to have to try and live with it as best we can.

i'd like to see someone to a drawing of Ms. Manners, the troll who's the charisma teacher who can 'take a ghoul and turn her into Miss Universe.'. For some reason i picture her looking like my old proper music teacher, only a troll.

There also was a female orc on the cover of the German version of one of the Sargent/Gasgoigne novels. Also, check out Elfwood for female orc pics. Not all look like SR orcs, but it sure helps you get started.

If you'd have a picture of your teacher, I could try myself on her.

there is a female troll in target:matrix. dressed up as a catholic school-girl. atleast i think its a troll...

the SR3 GM screen has a female troll rigger on one front..

..I think

don't have it here to check...

Isn't that an orc?

Ahh, sadly, no pics of the old teacher.

I recall the female orc in the SR2 book. A small picture, but i remember her wearing a Slayer shirt, so i thought it was pretty cool.

One of the reasons there isn't any troll and little orc females represented may be due to FASA/FanPro not really deciding on what exactly they look like. I mean come on! How many over weight orc and troll males have you seen? I can only come up with one fit orc male from SOTA:63 in the merc section. Sure both meta types are supposed to be "stocky" but until recently stocky was a big boned structure not fat with a gut hangin over the waist of your pants.

Now I'm certain that there are trolls and orc that are fat just like humans but we do get to see some physically fit humans in SR art. I say equal treatment for the metas! I imagine an attractive orc female looking like a WWW Raw diva only with tusks. Big kinda broad shouldered but cut or at least trim and toned.

Thanos

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Man, I think TrollBabe would have some strong words for this thread. Sadly, in the absence of illos, she exists in all of her high-charisma lusciousness only in my mind....

Post a description, then!

Also, I fail to see what makes the rigger figure either a troll or a female. It looks like a male orc to me (in typical Mark Zug style).

Mark Zug trolls always have horns. And bigger chins.

I second it's an orc. Aside from the "war pig" tatoo, and the absense oc horns, there's also the greenish skin colour Zug orcs tend to have (Zug trolls don't).

My favorite pic of a female ork is Pita, on the cover of Lisa Smedman's The Lucifer Deck. She's attractive in a tusky sort of way, without looking like somebody's PlayOrk fantasy bimbo.

I'm sorry to say this, but fantasy bimbo and ork should never, ever be in the same sentence.

The Great Question of Life™: Do orks actually find other orks attractive?

In response to the original post: That's funny. I've thought about that before. Basically, "what exactly would a large troll woman look like?" Every once in a while, I explore this in describing a female metahuman as an NPC in my campaign.

I'm fairly certain that the tall person on the cover of MrJLBB is a female troll.

I agree that it's supposed to be one.

:baleeted:

Unfortunately, I can only recall seeing one female troll, and she was in Denziens of Earthdawn. Not exactly SR, but there you go.

Being female, it douse not bother me at the lack of them in source material as SR is a male dominated game ( i don't mean that in a sexist way) Hermit has been great and put some flesh on my characters for me. ( Thanks mate)

The only thing that really pisses me off is the females always being portraied as some sort of sex goddess or something!

torz x

There's also a picture of a female ork prosititue in Tir na nOg. It's pretty well done, but unfortunately I don't have the book with me so I can't give you a page number.

Obviously trolls are a sex linked expression for some percentage of orks. Thus there are only male trolls and those come from some percentage of ork births

Granted this obviously isn't canonical but it could be an interesting idea.

RPGs (both pen and paper and video game) play to their demographics. Same reason beer commercials have bikini models in them. Something that unites nerds and jocks.

Not that I am saying, bring on the cheesecake. I would actually like to see less. Time to shed the "lonley loser" image.

Let alone the fact that most of the males in the artwork are portrayed with abs like you would see on the Greek gods.

Well, as a lifelong comic book fan, I guess I've grown a little desensitized to artistic portrayals of characters as idealized. That's also the reason I don't really have a problem with some of the more "cartoony" art in the SR books. I like comic art. Although, some of the SR stuff goes overboard, even for me.

Come to think of it, every one in our group (except my wife) were into comics way before they were into RPGs.

I've seen SuperSaiyajin4 with less well-defined abs.

"Wear Second Skin Body Armor for that Barbarian Princess look on your runs!"

Part of the reason why SR art usually portrays fit and good looking characters is that shadow runners are fit (they have to be). And I don’t know about you but as I walk around I find most fit people look good or at worst plain (and that is a distinction that only shows up in the best artwork).

At least most of the art in SR includes functional clothing. The prior comment about body armour is not valid IMO as most characters have a tendency to wear concealed armour.

Edward

OK, the blokes get it to, I must admit SR is not too bad on the scantaly clad woman stakes!

torz x

I think there a number of problems with SR art (too many to list, but these are the ones that stand out to me):

1. Orcs in general are drawn quite badly as ugly humans with absurdly oversized tusks, which is a style that doesn't lend itself to a lot of variation, especially when it comes to the range of (human) facial expressions.

2. Dwarves are uniformly drawn with legs even shorter in respect to their bodies than the background material indicates, heads too large for their bodies, no necks, and noses that make Gerard Depardieu's profile look classical.

3. Trolls... Faces aside, trolls (and orcs, to a lesser degree) are portrayed as absurdly over-muscled considering their stats (+4 str, +5 bod). It's less of an issue when you consider their supposed height of 2.8 meters, but they still somehow all end up with weighlifter's physiques.

By this point, a lot of this has become ingrained, so it's not really very surprising that many artists shy away from drawing female metahumans when previous artists have created this image of them as ugly, deformed women.