Hikaru - Perception check

Visual - 8 dice
1,4,2,2,2,3,4,1 - 0 Hits (I guess the chopper kicked up dust or something that got in her eyes)

Assensing - 4 dice
6,3,4,6 - 2 hits

If the team or DR doesn't mind, Cloud will talk to the security chief.

DR,

Two questions: Did we watch the fireworks? Were they televised?

DireRadiant, what do you mean with 'Ultrasound'? The us-vision or high frequency hearing (which is rolled together with low frequency and amplifyed hearing in the Audio Enhancement in SR4).
Here are my rolls, I´ll put up an IC sundayish, I think.

Wu Xian

Normal Perception: 7 Dice
2,4,2,2,1,3,3 = No hits
http://invisiblecastle.com/find.py?id=743591

Guys, Cloud's normal Influence isn't high. Although I softcap-maxed his Edge, there's only so many times, he can do it. Next time, I'd appreciate if someone else does the talking.

As I mentioned, Gaberiel can talk his way in/out of most things... it just didn't seem fit rp-wise to have him do it at this time.

Willow can step up too, I've just been up to my eyeballs in work. And if I'm gonna be suave and convincing, I have to take some time OOC to think about what I'm gonna say

Mk Ultra, if you can detect ultrasound somehow you can read the spoiler.

DireRadiant, what about my AR-question in the rolls-spoiler?

toturi, really nice talking. In general, my character will try to swoop in talking-wise, any time someone gives him a cue to do so, or he feels like nobody else is going to do it. As mentioned though, he isn´t that good a talker (not total crapeither) and as long as someone else handles it, he will take a back-seat.

everyone, I really enjoy the game so far, all are puting up some nice RP IMO

DireRadiant, sorry, I won´t make an IC today anymore - maybe tomorrow. But at this moment it will all only be internal RPing, so everyone dosn´t have to wait for me, feel free to move on, I can always ad that later!

I've got 7 dice for etiquette checks so I can do the talking sometimes, although given this character's personality, he won't be leaping in to be the leader or do the talking unless others urge him to do so before hand. That is, at least until be begins to trust the others and see them as his "team", right now the others are just people he's been "forced" to work with, not friends or team mates.

Nice flavor stuff Toturi, thanks!

Is the second part of her response - that is directed at everyone - also in Cantonese?

Gold taels are about 32 to 39 grams depending on which region they are from. Shanghai taels are slightly heavier. For simple math conside a tael to be slightly over an ounce. Gold prices fluctuate between 400 and 600 nuyen per ounce. 30 * 400 = 12,000, so between 12 and 18 thousand depending on market rates.

The fireworks are sponsored and managed by the governing council, and are watched by millions of people. The governing council includes every major corp.

The fireworks are part of the ritual to scare away bad spirits and demons from influencing the new year.

Fooey
+ anyone with 2 hits or more on Feng Shui or equivalent
+ 3 hits or more on Arcana


Fooey

There's no right or wrong answer to Hilary Green's last question IC, but it is an important answer, so I am expecting a significant ooc pause here for discussion, or even IC pause for discussion. Plus questions.

Hmm... I guess we could investigate this ourselves. But if we do that we should definately ask for the hotels help, at least with records, security videos, etc... that they have showing who has entered and left the building since Wang got here (and maybe even before, since they could have been here waiting for him to arrive).

Agreed. Blaze will also be concearned that if Wang's murder is tied to the last mission - and osmeone is trying to clean up all the loose ends - that any of us could be on that list as well.

Its to our benifit to find them before they find us.

I agree with the previous two posts. We need to investigate to make sure we are ot loose ends to be tied up. The hotel's help should make the investigation go smoother.

Fooey sucks at wet work. Otherwise, he's in.

How do we answer Ms. Green?

Perhaps we should be proposing to aid in the investigation with the hotel and be as helpful as possible (without incriminating ourselves or digging our graves) as a sign of good faith along with trying to attempt to keep information flowing in both directions, mostly back to us as much as possible.

We all agree to keep the matter "private" as so far as the hotel is concerned to save face there, but it could be in our best interests to keep the hotel in a proverbial "back pocket" as opposed to being in theirs. *shrugs* just a thought.

Q - Who is relaying all this info to Fooey? I thought he was outside of the hotel.

@toturi

You seem to have a great grasp of how the chinese society operates, greater than mine at least. I am pretty much in the same situation as Hikaru in not understanding the intracate culture. Hence, when I write up an IC for her in the next few days, just expect her to be standing in the background. She doesnt really have anything to contribute and would most likely err on a hidden social taboo.

Here here, very imrpessive.

Don't let Blaze's lack of conversation fool anyone, I'm still reading the thread - but for the time being, rather than get us all in trouble, the pyromaniac (who cant really understand most of what's being said anyways) is just looking for someone to do something hostile so he can melt them... or for everyone to leave so the team can discuss things amongst itself.

GM OOC - Note that the GM considers there are far more interested parties then the Team and Hotel to be considered in the current negotiation. WHo's looking out for poor old Johnny Wang?

IC and OOC Skills/Knowledge. How do we handle when Player knows, but PC doesn't, and vice versa?

If a player knows stuff, but the PC wouldn't. I'll tend to cap the max result allowed based oon the PC skill. There's still reward for making scenes fun and interesting thorough using Player knowledge, but I'm not extending the Players knowledge to add to the game mechanic. The character has limits identified on the character sheet.

If the player doesn't know, but the PC would or should, then we roll the dice! GM gives advice/information based on the result.

So what does this mean? While Toturi has done a fun and great scene with cloud, the maximum effects achievable by Cloud are going to be limited by Charisma + Influence, which scores Toturi are familiar with, and as additional note, Charisma based skills results are also capped by language skill. So if you have Cantonese 1, Charisma 2, Influence 1, your maximum result is going to be 1 hit on a 3 dice pool.

On the other hand, while Gabe's interruption is somewhat rude in context, he's so naturally charming (Cha 5 and Influence 4) that he's turning the outsider aspect to his advantage. Oh, he can interrupt because he's a gwai lo and doesn't know better. He needs someone to explain what's happening is why he's interrupting.

You might also consider using teamwork on this negotiation.

Before we do that, we need to decide exactly what we want from the negotiation.

Judge Intentions (INT + CHA)
Threshold 2

This is a critical decision for the team, at least in terms of direction, so while I want to allow lots of time for everyone to give input, I am setting a deadline for monday Dec 4 for resolving the negotiation.

If we come to consensus earlier, after everyone has their chance to chime in, that's great, but come monday we'll be moving past this step.

While Willow may have the abilities on paper, I have to admit as a player I'm finding myself more intimidated than I should be to *play* her. Becomes a case of the above where the PC might know what to do, but I do not.

DR, I'll send you a PM shortly I suppose.

Judging Hillary Green's Intentions:
CHA (4) + INT (4) = 8 dice
[5] [5] 1 3 [6] [5] 3 [6] Hits:5


As far as what we want to get from the negotiations, do we just want to get paid for the job we've done and walk away, or those of us who have a connection to Johnny (familial or business) may wish to seek out more answers.

Without the ability to communicate between the team without being heard or observed this becomes difficult to work out IC (IMHO) but as Willow has a working relationship with Johnny she'd be more inclined to look deeper into what happened as opposed to just walking away with gold in her pocket. She'd angle to obtain both objectives. I would assume "Tough Old Wang" would also want to investigate the murder of a family member but I don't want to put words into your mouth MK.

Vegas, quiet right. The old man isn´t too interested in money (though he has to work for a living, still, or at least says so). He´d want to secure the hotel´s support (including monetary support if needed) in this investigation, which shouldn´t be to hard, since it is in their interest, too. He´d like to earn a favour from the hotel as well, but this is not his primery concern. He is not interested in making more money then the investigation would consume, though he wouldn´t turn down payment when it´s offered.

I myself also don´t know much about HK etiquete, but I have the excuse of playing a senile, grumpy, old man, so PC behavior and numbers may match well with player knowledge.

DireRadiant

Judgement Roll Int(4) + Cha(2)
3,4,2,5,3,4 = 1 Hit
Rolls

Wu Xian would like to get paid for the recent run. He would also be interested in investigating what happened to Johnny Wang for two reasons;
1. to make sure the team is not on someone's hit list
2. to do it so that the hotel owes us a favor.

Mike's main concern is for this not to spiral out of control. By that I mean, right now it seems like we are in the clear of being accused of the attack on Wang (and if he survives this can only help us). but if he does die and if the cops (and local politics) come down hard on the hotel then the hotel might need someone to blame. And I don't want them to hand us over to the cops as scapegoats.

So from his point of view, it would be best to find the real attacker(s) and prove it (not just kill them) so that if the cops do come around we have someone to hand over to them.

Also, since at this time it appears the attack might have something to do with their run, then by his standards, the job isn't truely over because it might have been a slip up on our part that got Wang ID'd by his competitors. And it would be up to us to make ammends for it by finding the perps and setting it right.

As for the rolling/negotiating. I have a high score in Cantonese and good scores in Negotiation and charisma. But I am a forigner, and still not 100% trusting in the team I am with (and also IC'ly unsure on what they want to do).

TheRedRightHand
Perhaps we (You, Me, and Toturi) [jeeze that sounds like a movie] can put together a good 'united front' to save our collective asses.

Willow's a native, decent charisma and negotiations (not spectacular however) Cloud obviously has a good grasp on talking his way through things and from what a little GM told me Mike's a good fit to the trio to put things back into the team's favour.

Shall we start formulating a "plan" on how to keep the hotel on our side and in our pocket as opposed to being in theirs as we work out if Johnny's attack (murder?) is connected to the job we just ran? We could definitely use their "backing" even if it's deniable assets to make this possible as opposed to going up against a corp AND whomever is responsible for Johnny's attack.

@ All
For the actual investigation itself, it seems it might benefit us to get various video coverage of the fireworks (different sources = different angles) and review them since we'd know when we did the subtle shift in the timing, so we could see it's subtle effects in the grand scheme of things. That coupled with anything Gabe can distill from Johnny's commlink/schedule and anything Old Wang (sorry MK, his name is eluding me atm) can provide from family links should be a good start to jump off with.

In character when can "discuss" things without being heard by using the texting feature of our commlinks. Sort of what we are doing now on this thread.

We should also get any surveillance footage from the hotel, probably enough to cover the whole time he has been in this suite.