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ShieldT
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If you could take a group of X-Men from comics, TV, movies (any continuity or time period as long as you specified which [heh maybe mixed and matched]) and strand them in the world of Shadowrun (pick a date if ya like) with or without any clue of how to get back, who would you pick and why?

For me, Nightcrawler is a definite must as his teleporting (bampfing) powers will make mincemeat out of most security plans and safes, and he stands a decent chance of finding a girlfriend as his tail and hands aren't that... strange. ('Course the nurse he's currently with is hot smile.gif ) Give him a dikoted sword or two and he'll be happy, not to mention that the local church may even be welcoming.

I'd love Storm, White Queen, Gambit, Bobby and Nightcrawler for a streetside Shadowrun and Wolverine, Colossus, Kitty, Cyclops and Rogue for an Underworld Politics Shadowrun smile.gif I'll give my favorites list and reasons later, what's your input?


Heh, if they can survive not only Star Trek but their everyday lives they stand a chance at anything.

Not to mention Spiderman. Dropping him in solo, next to the toppled Space Needle, without explanation and seeing him take it from there would be awesome (IMHO) smile.gif
Shadow
First off Spidey rules. He would do well in SR.

As for my Xmen team,

Cyclops
Jean
Colossus
Shadowcat
Lockheed
Nightcrawler
and reluctantly Wolverine
Birdy
QUOTE (ShieldT)
X-Men and all related trademarks are registered by the Marvel Corporation, then and now, no true infringement meant.

If you could take a group of X-Men from comics, TV, movies (any continuity or time period as long as you specified which [heh maybe mixed and matched]) and strand them in the world of Shadowrun (pick a date if ya like) with or without any clue of how to get back, who would you pick and why?

For me, Nightcrawler is a definite must as his teleporting (bampfing) powers will make mincemeat out of most security plans and safes, and he stands a decent chance of finding a girlfriend as his tail and hands aren't that... strange. ('Course the nurse he's currently with is hot smile.gif ) Give him a dikoted sword or two and he'll be happy, not to mention that the local church may even be welcoming.

I'd love Storm, White Queen, Gambit, Bobby and Nightcrawler for a streetside Shadowrun and Wolverine, Colossus, Kitty, Cyclops and Rogue for an Underworld Politics Shadowrun smile.gif I'll give my favorites list and reasons later, what's your input?


Heh, if they can survive not only Star Trek but their everyday lives they stand a chance at anything.

Not to mention Spiderman. Dropping him in solo, next to the toppled Space Needle, without explanation and seeing him take it from there would be awesome (IMHO) smile.gif

As much as I am a fan of Wolvie and the (Comic) Rogue:

Politics and those two are like Microsoft Works!

Now, if you need a Skyscraper demolished or so...


Other than that, I'd Choose:

Attack team:

Rogue
Wolverine
Cyclops
Colossus

Backstab team:

Shadowcat
Storm
Phoenix
Psylocke

Entertainment / Distraction

Gambit
Emma Frost


Birdy



hobgoblin
QUOTE (Shadow)
First off Spidey rules. He would do well in SR.

As for my Xmen team,

Cyclops
Jean
Colossus
Shadowcat
Lockheed
Nightcrawler
and reluctantly Wolverine

hmm, thats the classical one that did the rebirth of x-men after the one with the non-feral beast, iceman and angel.

only ones missing is rogue and storm...
Adarael
Any team with Forge. OH GOD, ANY TEAM WITH FORGE.
Shockwave_IIc
Sorry, much as i like Nightcrawler (Oh i do LIKE nightcrawler),

for me, i'd take Image comics Black ops.

Just cos there all mundane.....
hermit
Any Comic: Spider Jerusalem

X-Men-Related:
- Forge
- Bishop
- Psylocke
- Wolverine
- Jubilee
DrJest
Any comic at all:
Jenny Sparks (Authority)
Jack Hawksmoor (Authority)
The Drummer (Planetary)

Just those three alone would be hysterically funny in Shadowrun's world.

X-characters: Pryde and Wisdom. I'm a big fan of the Pete/Kitty dynamic, and I think their skills and powers would be interesting in the SR universe.

Hmm... I think it is perhaps no coincidence that two of my favourite comics characters - Pete Wisdom and Jenny Sparks - were both created by Warren Ellis smile.gif
nick012000
Heh. Spiderman would be awesome to drop into SR. Simply because of how he would react to the mere existance of Z-zones.

Of course, given that some of his bigger foes (Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, and Doctor Octopus) are best classified as street samurai, he might not be able to make much of a difference. frown.gif
fistandantilus4.0
What the hell does White Queen/Emma Frost DO anyways!?
Sharaloth
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
What the hell does White Queen/Emma Frost DO anyways!?

Show off for the fanboys.

Oh, and something about turning into diamond and being a telepath or whatever.
fistandantilus4.0
ahhh.... so... they have her turn into diamond and sell her to rich hungry fanboys every time the x-mansion gets destroyed then? I can see how that contributes to the team as a whole. wobble.gif
Angelone
The X-team I'd want would be X-Force from back in the day, when it was:
Cable
Domino
Shatterstar
Siren
Boomer
Cannonball
Warpath
And my personal fav.
Rictor
Nikoli
Wolverine
Beast
Scarlet Witch
Sharaloth
hehe, I can just imagine Wolverine trying to make it in Shadowrun.

Wolvie: I'm the best there is at what I do, eh.
Fixer: Riiiiight. Gotcha, and what's that? Need to know for the job offers, you see.
Wolvie: Uhh. I'm pretty good at fighting and killing people.
Fixer: Ah, combat specialist. Adept, Street Sam or combat magician?
Wolvie: Uhh...
Fixer: Street Sam. Weapon of Choice?
Wolvie: Well, I got these claws, eh. And these metal bones.
Fixer: Ah, bone lacing and a nifty set of spurs. Yeah, my cousin got that, too. But that's really nothing special, or really spectacularly useful except for getting caught at every MAD system you walk through, what else you got?
Wolvie: Nothing special? Uh.. I got a healing factor, so I heal injuries real quick.
Fixer: Ah, symbiotes! Nanite or bioware version? No, don't answer that, let's leave you with some mystique. Anything else?
Wolvie: Well... I... ummm... I have enhanced feral senses?
Fixer: You see that guy over there? Yeah, he's got those too, AND he can put his fist through a concrete wall. Try a little harder.
Wolvie: Crazy ninja skills?
Fixer: If I had ten nuyen for every wannabe runner that told me they had crazy ninja skills and then got downed by the first street punk packing a manabolt spell, I'd be doing something other than fixing by now. Go back to mommy, kid, you're obviously not cut out for the biz.
Wolvie: What? But I'm... Wolverine!
Shadow
So true!
Foreigner
Sharaloth:

Actually, someone did that awhile back.

Their spin on Wolverine was as follows:

Metatype: Dwarf (Okay, at 5' 3" and approximately 300 pounds (about 160 without the Adamantium) in the comics, he'd be too tall for a Dwarf--in that case, make him a short Human. smile.gif)
Class: Bioware Mercenary/Street Samurai

Bioware/Cyberware: Guardian Angel symbiotes, Toxin Extractors, Boosted Reflexes, Titanium Steel Bone Lacing, Dikoted Triple Spurs (both hands); Senseware augmentations (eyes--thermographic/ultraviolet/low-light/telescopic vision; ears--high-and low-frequency), enhanced senses of taste, smell, and touch.

Languages: R/W: English (U.S./Canadian): 6/6
French: 4/4
Japanese: 5/5

Martial Arts: Cyberware combat: 6 (or whatever it's called... wink.gif)
Ninjitsu: 6
Iaijutsu/Kenjutsu: 6/6


That's the gist of it. I'm afraid that I can't recall all of the information, and I think the site where I found it is gone.

--Foreigner
Tziluthi
Cable. Oooh, yeaaah. Big guns, cyberware, and psychic powers. Gambit would make a good covert-ops spec, and then you throw in Forge as a rigger/decker type, Jean Grey as a pure psychic, and few others for flavor or heavy-fire support, maybe a few people who can shoot energy beams and the like.
Shadow
A great team (non X-Men) to Port would be the 'New Warriors'. Hell they pretty much are Shadowrunners to begin with.

Nova
Namorita
Speedball
Justice
Firestar
Night Thrasher
Rage


Thats pretty much the original team. They have a new team now thats just Nita, Speedball, Thrash and some other guy.
Astelaron
I only want three people on my team Proffesor X, Apocolypse, and Magneto. I know they would never team up but if they did nothing could stop them.
shadow_scholar
But what about Dazzler? She can change sound to light!!

Yeah, that's a joke, unless you're playing SR1 where Rockers still exist.

I'm gonna take not just from the X-men, but from all around the Marvel universe. Here's my picks:

Street Sam #1 - The Silver Samurai - why not? He's already got the name. Probably not the greatest scrapper ever (he's melee only), but I think he's the coolest. He'd probably be an adept in SR.

Street Sam #2 - Domino - hot chick (you could always use an extra one of those), can handle herself, many useful skills including excellent ranged combat, stealth, small unit tactics, probably demolitions as well.

Magic - Dr. Strange. A hermetic all the way but it just doesn't get any better than this guy when it comes to mystical powers and metaphysical/thaumaturgical knowledge.

Decker/Rigger - I'd go with Forge, also. A mutant ability for a variety of B/R skills is a huge bonus.

Face - Mystique. Nothing better than a true shapeshifter who has no moral dilemmas. She's a little bit nutty nowadays as I understand it, but back in the day she was damn good at what she did.
Cynic project
QUOTE (DrJest)
Any comic at all:
Jenny Sparks (Authority)
Jack Hawksmoor (Authority)
The Drummer (Planetary)

Just those three alone would be hysterically funny in Shadowrun's world.

X-characters: Pryde and Wisdom. I'm a big fan of the Pete/Kitty dynamic, and I think their skills and powers would be interesting in the SR universe.

Hmm... I think it is perhaps no coincidence that two of my favourite comics characters - Pete Wisdom and Jenny Sparks - were both created by Warren Ellis smile.gif

Don't you mean Jenny Quantum?I mean she is the spirt of the 21est century wile Sparks was the 20th...

Hell, the Doctor would be hilarious in Shadows.
toturi
Onslaught. For pure pwnage.
Apocalypse. For even more pwnage.
Dr Doom. Just in case there isn't enough pwnage.
Kyuhan
Talk about powergaming.
Angelone
Ya'll got my going through my brother's comics. He'll be thrilled about this nyahnyah.gif
Anyway I'm going to revise my team.
Cable- Sam#1
Domino- Adept or Sam#2
Kane- Sam#3
Grizzly- Sam#4
White Queen- Psychic/mage
Post Phalanx Professor- AI/Decker

Now I realize I'm awfully muscle heavy, but Cable and Kane could help Professor with decking duties, and one could probably be a rigger, I seem to remember one doing something like that. If Cable still has Greymalkin who needs a rigger?
hobgoblin
QUOTE (toturi)
Onslaught. For pure pwnage.
Apocalypse. For even more pwnage.
Dr Doom. Just in case there isn't enough pwnage.

ah, dr doom. why do i fear that the fantastic four movie will screw him up even more then they did green goblin in spider-man 1?
Fygg Nuuton
QUOTE (hobgoblin)
QUOTE (toturi @ Jul 30 2005, 06:05 PM)
Onslaught. For pure pwnage.
Apocalypse. For even more pwnage.
Dr Doom. Just in case there isn't enough pwnage.

ah, dr doom. why do i fear that the fantastic four movie will screw him up even more then they did green goblin in spider-man 1?

Because it did.
Kyuhan
I thought Julian McMahon did great with what he had to work with.
hobgoblin
yes the acting was good, but the gear was junk.
basicly it was the helmet that was the biggest problem, it looked like a bad joke...
Fygg Nuuton
Yes, the actor was great and I couldnt think of a better person to play it.

However, I don't know much about doom. I didn't think he had a full metal body and electric powers, so much as armor and magic and alot of cash.

i could be wrong
Angelone
QUOTE (Angelone)
Ya'll got my going through my brother's comics. He'll be thrilled about this nyahnyah.gif
Anyway I'm going to revise my team.
Cable- Sam#1
Domino- Adept or Sam#2
Kane- Sam#3
Grizzly- Sam#4
White Queen- Psychic/mage
Post Phalanx Professor- AI/Decker

Now I realize I'm awfully muscle heavy, but Cable and Kane could help Professor with decking duties, and one could probably be a rigger, I seem to remember one doing something like that. If Cable still has Greymalkin who needs a rigger?

Gah, I forgot Deadpool! How could I do that!
hobgoblin
QUOTE (Fygg Nuuton)
Yes, the actor was great and I couldnt think of a better person to play it.

However, I don't know much about doom. I didn't think he had a full metal body and electric powers, so much as armor and magic and alot of cash.

i could be wrong

bingo, the comic doom is a mr. fantastic level genius.

basicly, to go up against him on his home turf or in any other planed enviroment is like going up agaisnt lofwyr inside SK HQ eek.gif

the armor can be a match for iron man's. with enough firepower to take on a animalistic hulk or something.

and while he isnt a dr strange, he have some knowhow in the mystical arts.

basicly he is a walking munchkinfest...

from what i understand the film version gets hit with the same cosmic rays that create the FF and slowly turns him into a walking lightning rod.

well, as long as i get to see him blast stuff apart with energy rays cyber.gif

heh, maybe the sequel can have him build an armor to help him channel the lightning energy to power diffrent effects. like say magnetic hover coils and similar wink.gif

but then i would allso like to see a spider-man film where spidey realy lets his mouth go wild, and realy have to employ smarts rather then powers to solve something.
Glyph
My ideal X-Men team would be -

Cyclops: Less for his powers, which are nifty, and more for his tactical and leadership abilities.

Jean Grey: Phoenix powers are a big boost to the team, but even without them she is still formiddable (and inventive) as both a telekinetic and a telepath. Psylocke and Emma Frost both don't measure up to her. Professor X is the supreme telepath, but he's been beaten up by unpowered mundanes more than once.

Wolverine: I know, the fanboy choice, but he is cunning, ruthless when he has to be, and so many times, the outcome of crucial fights has hinged on him.

Storm: Her powers are incredibly versatile, and she also has a dizzying array of mundane skills - master thief and brutal hand-to-hand combattant. Also, she is nearly as good as Cyclops as a leader and tactician.

Shadowcat: Not only an untouchable ninja who can go through walls, but also a genius-level techie and a perceptive lateral thinker. Forge is smarter, but not as much of a fighter. The same can be said of the Beast, who has decent powers but still seems to get punked out a lot.

Rogue: I am assuming the version who still has the powers that she absorbed from Ms. Marvel. Valuable both for information gathering and as muscle. Sure, Colossus is stronger, but it's a moot point since the SR world has little in the way of weaponry that could affect either of them. Plus, Rogue can fly as well, and she is not as conspicuous as Colussus is in his armored form.

Cable: Cybernetics, heavy weaponry, and decent enough psi-powers. Very tough muscle, but also brings tactical ability and tech savvie to the table.


There are so many good choices, but I limited myself to seven. I picked a team that is sharp, experienced, and capable of working together as a close-knit team.
Tziluthi
QUOTE (Fygg Nuuton)
However, I don't know much about doom. I didn't think he had a full metal body and electric powers, so much as armor and magic and alot of cash.

i could be wrong

AFAIK he didn't have a metal body, nor the natural ability to steal electricity. He was just a smart guy who built himself power-armour and a glove that could take down a Sentinel. Also, he had his own country. Can't recall the magic part, though. What did that do, exactly?
nick012000
I still say Spidey. Just because of his reaction to seeing the state of the world.

Also, he's got strength, speed, endurance, intelligence, limited precognition ("My spider-sense is tingling!"), and l33t technical skills.

I have a feeling that once Spidey shows up, the Redmond Barrens will never be the same. Neither will the organleggers, once he realizes that leaving someone webbed up in the Barrens is an invitation to organleggers to come in and chop them up.
kelvingreen
QUOTE (ShieldT)
If you could take a group of X-Men from comics, TV, movies (any continuity or time period as long as you specified which [heh maybe mixed and matched]) and strand them in the world of Shadowrun (pick a date if ya like) with or without any clue of how to get back, who would you pick and why?

Gah! Anyone but Wolverine, as I've seen (and, I'm ashamed to admit, played) far too many SR characters over the years that have had retractable cyberspurs and titanium bone lacing coupled with olfactory boosters and that super-healing thingie from the old bioware book. Add in an amnesia and dark past double-flaw whammie, and you've got a recipe for dullness.

My favourite X-Men have always been Nightcrawler and Colossus, and both could feasibly fit into the SR. Titanium skinweave for Colossus perhaps (heavy!) and Nightcrawler's obviously some form of European Shadow Elf, probably an adept of some sort.

I'd go wider afield; Captain America is screaming for a SR adaptation. Captain UCAS, with his Dikoted shield and a ridiculous number of points in Atheltics and Martial Arts. Utterly brainwashed and/or high on combat drugs, of course. wobble.gif Part of the point of Cap is that he's mundane, so he might get shredded to bits in high-end games, but I suppose filling him up with bioware is an acceptable compromise.

Thor as a weather-type-totem shaman who's built like a brick shitehouse and waves a hammer-based weapon focus would work nicely. You could base him on the version from The Ultimates, since there's the suggestion there that he's not Thor at all, but just a nutter who thinks he is, but who also has the power to back it up. I've used a version of Thor in a number of my games, but for some reason, I've never thought of using him in SR until now.

Iron Man would be a fun one to convert too. You'd just have to keep a close eye on the players who want a set of flying military-grade armour for themselves and will do anything to get it!

The Hulk is a great spoiler for runs. The team are sent to retrieve a technician who's been working on a top-secret super soldier project for a corp and/or the military and who's now gone AWOL. Of course it turns out that he is the experiment, so they'd better not make him angry...

GM: He doesn't want to come with you. He just wants to be left alone.
P1: I'll slap him and say-
GM: P2, are you still outside?
P2: Yeah.
P1: Wait, what-
GM: You hear a crash as part of the building you're watching collapses, and P1 lands a few feet away from you... well some of him does.
P1 & P2: Bollocks!
kelvingreen
QUOTE (Tziluthi)
QUOTE (Fygg Nuuton @ Jul 31 2005, 06:18 AM)
However, I don't know much about doom.  I didn't think he had a full metal body and electric powers, so much as armor and magic and alot of cash.

i could be wrong

AFAIK he didn't have a metal body, nor the natural ability to steal electricity. He was just a smart guy who built himself power-armour and a glove that could take down a Sentinel. Also, he had his own country. Can't recall the magic part, though. What did that do, exactly?

Doom's always had an interest in magic, as part of his gypsy heritage, but it really came to the fore recently (about a year ago) as he used all sorts of nasty magic on the Fantastic Four, figuring he should change his tactics around a bit in order to defeat them. It turns out that Doom's a pretty nifty mage. Not to Doctor Strange, or even Scarlet Witch levels, but coupled with his mastery of technology, he's more than a match for both.

Doom would be a great SR campaign nemesis. An utter munchkin of course, but fun for the GM at least. biggrin.gif Genius-level IQ, good combat skills, military grade combat armour full of extra gadgets, some devastating magical abilities, and finally huge amounts of cash, a country of his own and a massive army of high-tech robots. eek.gif
Cynic project
One super that would work well in shadowrun would eb Midnighter from the Authority. Maybe the Great Machine from Ex Machneia
ShieldT
QUOTE (Tziluthi @ Jul 31 2005, 06:22 AM)
Doctor Doom - Can't recall the magic part, though. What did that do, exactly?

Oh, his gyspsy mother was involved with the dark arts. When she died he used them to locate her lifeforce and built a superscience rig to bring her back to the real world. The machine blew up in his face; the mask he built to hide the scars was accidentally fused to his flesh. Arrogance. He probably had some cool plots too, but I don't know of them.
EDIT: Much thanks Kelvingreen and
QUOTE
Doom would be a great SR campaign nemesis. An utter munchkin of course, but fun for the GM at least. biggrin.gif
Nifty! smile.gif

I'd really like to drop regular universe Storm into Shadowrun as she'd quicky make a name for herself. She was trained from a young age in low-tech theivery (lockpicking, pickpocketing, etc) and while I'm not sure how she'd do against maglocks (at least where frying the internal components is a bad thing) she did spend a successful stint in New Orleans with Gambit.. In a panel in X-Treme X-Men that I hazily remember, she used her powers to 'see' all the electrons around her (that right?) giving her X-ray vision and allowing her to find a hidden cache in a wall.

In Africa she was worshipped as a goddess and communed with the Bright Lady who appeared to her in visions. Storm carries a sense of the Bright Lady's presence with her, except for when she was on an alternate Earth without humans. In that place Storm could not feel the Bright Lady's presence but rather an awaiting emptiness. In my opinion this 'Bright Lady' is the Marvel U's equivalent of a Totem and, while Ororo certainly draws no powers from her faith(least none that I know of, her mundane powers being huge in their own right), it would be interesting to see if she could find any fellow worshippers across the divide.
kelvingreen
QUOTE (Angelone)
Gah, I forgot Deadpool! How could I do that!

I have played as Deadpool, although that wasn't the name used for the character. He had more cyberware than the comics version too, but otherwise pretty similar. The costume was identical, except in blue rather than red. No one else in the group knew the character though, so I got away with the brazen theft.

Boy, did that character not go well... frown.gif

I've also played as a Trollish version of Hawkeye, with the deafness and everything, and I still remember my GM's face when I told him that the physad I'd be taking into the Renraku Archology wore black full-body form-fitted armour, a cape, and a utility belt...

Funnily enough, that character was the only one to survive.
DrJest
QUOTE (Cynic project)
One super that would work well in shadowrun would eb Midnighter from the Authority.

"Midnighter, as psychopath in residence you can handle the interrogation"

---

"I've already fought this battle a hundred times in my head, and I'm the only one who walks off this airfield alive. The closest any of you get to hurting me is to tear my coat, and that just makes me more pissed off."

---

(Said as he uses an alien supercarrier to burst an island's forcefield and spike down into the bad guy's undergound lair): "I love being me..."

---


Yeah, okay, you win - midnighter for the win smile.gif Actually you could kind of do it - physad with improved combat armed and unarmed, increased reflexes, and more Combat Sense than the rules would ever dream of letting you have rotfl.gif
hobgoblin
QUOTE (ShieldT)
the mask he built to hide the scars was accidentally fused to his flesh.

not fused, but he did manage to put it on before it have fully cooled, further damaging his face.

iirc the original armor was buildt by the help of tibetan monks in the monestary where he was hideing out after the incident with the machine that was supposed to bring back his mother.

btw, mr. fantastic pointed out a flaw in the design of the machine, doom just brushed him of, flipped the switch and boom. and from what i recall that is the source of the hostilitys between doom and ff.
ShieldT
thanks hg and it looks like I should pick up a copy if the Authorityif y'all like it so much smile.gif

QUOTE (Birdy @ Jul 28 2005, 07:46 PM)
As much as I am a fan of Wolvie and the (Comic) Rogue:

Politics and those two are like Microsoft Works!

Now, if you need a Skyscraper demolished or so...

I... don't know about that smile.gif

Logan had enough savvy to formally marry a respectable Japanese woman. Of course, you're right that Rogue will probably step on some toes, I put her in mainly for grabbing passwords and schedules and other such items without the telltale signature of a mind probe. Not to mention Glyph's reasons wink.gif So why her and not one of the more political savvy psychics? I find her reliable and I love the accent biggrin.gif

Short story: Spidey's swinging along Manhattan when BAM! he's sucked into a yellow-pink portal that just opens in mid-air. He tumbles for a second or so before latching onto a structure with a view of the fallen Space Needle. Cue the sounds of a struggle in the neighborhood. He webs across to where a tall lady is apparently being hounded into a blocked alleyway by a pack of ghouls. He swoops in, picks her up and has barely enough time to notice her pointed ears before the banshee lets out a piercing scream and begins feeding on his soul. *furious rolling of dice* Spidey manages to web her directly in the mouth and drops her. She more descends at an angle than falls to the ground. He quickly swings away. He's later flagged down by a troll standing in front of a garage, the sun beating down on his bandanna'd head, an ork sitting on the fender of the green car a little ways away. "Hey Spiderman!" the guy *coincidentally* (cough, cough) has a Knowledge skill in late 20th-century comics. Spiderman is hanging upside-down as he shakes his head and asks "Okay, what have you guys done to Seattle THIS time?"

Hmm... Would mutant powers impact the astral plane the same way Innate Spells and Critter Powers do? If Rogue brushed up against someone would they show a mind-probe type spell in their aura, no remnants whatsoever, or a shadow of her signature with no clear link of how it got there? Could someone assense Colussus's human form and see his armored form as a potential adept power? Heh.. Has Dr. Strange ever remarked on this? smile.gif

QUOTE (Sharaloth)
Fixer: If I had ten nuyen for every wannabe runner that told me they had crazy ninja skills and then got downed by the first street punk packing a manabolt spell, I'd be doing something other than fixing by now. Go back to mommy, kid, you're obviously not cut out for the biz.
Wolvie: What? But I'm... Wolverine!.


As I understand it each cell of a mutant's body produces it's own energy allowing for effects independent of the flow of mana and beyond the power of any nanite in Shadowrun with finite reserves. Love to see any technosoup repair brain and body death without affecting Essence. cyber.gif Point about the manabolt/ball killing him, but unless restrained he's just gonna keep on getting up until your guy either gets away or succumbs to drain smile.gif 'Course the fixer's never gonna take his word for it, shorta Wolvie shooting himself in the eyeball and he's just too respectable for that. Oh, hey, is he usually invisible to radar and metal detectors, or is that just the Ultimate version? Now showing that off to a fixer is a great way to convince him of your status and get the Hunted Flaw for free cool.gif
Kyuhan
That's an invention of the Ultimate universe.
Birdy
@ShildT:

Ya sure, the accent. Just the accent! biggrin.gif

The classic stil is:

<Combat chopper fires at Rogue to no effect>
R: "Hey Guys! That's all you can do?"
<Chopper uses a rocket pack an Rogue goes down hard>
R: "Me and my big mouth"

Not to forget the bar scene where the local rednecks go from "Cute, let's date her!" to "Shit, a mutant" to "Run, she tears down the bar" in about three minutes.


Birdy

Smed
I'm going with X-factor:

Guido (Strong Guy)
Quicksilver
Multiple Man
Havok
Polaris
Wolfsbane

hyzmarca
QUOTE (kelvingreen)
QUOTE (Tziluthi)
QUOTE (Fygg Nuuton @ Jul 31 2005, 06:18 AM)
However, I don't know much about doom.  I didn't think he had a full metal body and electric powers, so much as armor and magic and alot of cash.

i could be wrong

AFAIK he didn't have a metal body, nor the natural ability to steal electricity. He was just a smart guy who built himself power-armour and a glove that could take down a Sentinel. Also, he had his own country. Can't recall the magic part, though. What did that do, exactly?

Doom's always had an interest in magic, as part of his gypsy heritage, but it really came to the fore recently (about a year ago) as he used all sorts of nasty magic on the Fantastic Four, figuring he should change his tactics around a bit in order to defeat them. It turns out that Doom's a pretty nifty mage. Not to Doctor Strange, or even Scarlet Witch levels, but coupled with his mastery of technology, he's more than a match for both.

Doom would be a great SR campaign nemesis. An utter munchkin of course, but fun for the GM at least. biggrin.gif Genius-level IQ, good combat skills, military grade combat armour full of extra gadgets, some devastating magical abilities, and finally huge amounts of cash, a country of his own and a massive army of high-tech robots. eek.gif

Doom has the potential to be as powerful as, if not more powerful than, Dr. Strange. However, Doom lacks Strange's training.

Doom went to the Ancient to recieve magical training but the Ancient turned him down because of his character flaws.
There is, however, a What If... reality in which the Ancient overlooked Doom's flaws. In this reality, Doom became Sorcerer Supreme and Strange got a pair of cybernetic hands from Doom when he visited the monestary.
Kyuhan
I thought that was the one where Tony Stark became Sorcerer Supreme.
hyzmarca
QUOTE (Kyuhan)
I thought that was the one where Tony Stark became Sorcerer Supreme.

I never read that one. In the one I read Dr. Doom just chops off Strange's hands and replaces them with cybernetic hands. Strange is able to preform surgery again but he isn't happy about Doom's methods.


If you really want to shake up the sixth world the best x-character to teleport is the Juggernaut from the alternate reality What If... Professor X became the Juggernaut.
Not only does he have the Juggernaut's invulnerability to everything, obscene strength, and literal unstopability, Professor X's considerable psycic powers have been augmented by the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, as well. He knows the thoughts of every single person on the Earth at any given time. He uses his powers to make a world where humans and mutants can live in peace and then goes a bit overboard.

The result is that Professor X is that immortal dictator of the Earth and if a normal human even ares to think so much as a single anti-mutant thought the X-men will bust down his door within minutes and take him to a re-education facility. Meanwhile, mutants can terrorize normal humans with impunity.

Eventually, Magneto is able to reproduce the metal that Juggernaut's armor is made from and usues it to fashion telepathy-proof headbands and recruits some X-men to take the professor down. They couldn't kill him but they could hurl him into outer space where he would float around untill he crashes into something that he can push off of.


Imagine, a world where humans are second class citizens and a a bald man resembling Captain Picard dictates his will to even the most powerful of Great Dragons.
toturi
I think that was the point of Onslaught. A "what if Prof X got seriously pissed" scenario.
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