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SR3R Master Thread Jon’s Glorious Karma Character Generation System (S3CKS) Decking Ranged Combat New Gear Cyberware Time, Pool, and the Flow of Combat _________________________________________________ Decided: (All of these are subject to reopening for discussion should there be any strong argument for a different path) _________________________________________________ In progress: _________________________________________________ Proposed changes: 1) The Astral Form When a projecting mage leaves his or her body, they lose contact with it entirely. Damage suffered by the body is not felt by the projecting mage, nor does damage to the astral form appear on the body. When an injured astral form returns to the body, the damage incurred by the astral form expresses on the body in a dramatic fashion—likewise, damage incurred by the body is immediately transferred to the astral form upon recombination. A body may die, leaving the projecting mage stranded in astral space, or the astral form may die leaving a functioning shell with no higher brain function. The astral form does not feel pain, though astral injuries do affect operation. 2) The nature of Essence Essence is an attribute of the astral form, not the body. As such, a mage whose body has died will run out of Essence and die in a few hours. Cyberware and drug use can cause damage to Essence, which is expressed on the astral form. For example, a mage with a cyberarm may appear either wholly armless or with a shriveled and horribly damaged arm on the astral. Full-borg mages are truly a horrific sight on the astral. This damage to the astral form does not, curiously enough, impede functioning. Complex organisms act as barriers to astral forms, and cannot be passed through. As a rough guideline, most macroscopic organisms are impenetrable—some exceptions (like Proteans) exist. Ladies and gentlemen, start your flamewars. Opinions? Other areas that need to be addressed here? ~J |
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Kagetenshi Astral Space, Essence, and the Awakened Aug 25 2005, 05:21 AM
Sabosect How about how Essence and Mana interact? Aug 25 2005, 05:26 AM
Kagetenshi Expand on what you mean?
(For those keeping score... Aug 25 2005, 05:34 AM
SirBedevere I think that these are changes that needed making.... Aug 25 2005, 09:13 AM
Ryu I propose reducing the problem of cybered magician... Aug 25 2005, 11:22 AM
Dawnshadow I don't like the astral damage expressing sudd... Aug 25 2005, 11:47 AM
Sharaloth I don't like 3, and I don't like 1. 2 is o... Aug 25 2005, 03:55 PM
SFEley QUOTE 1) The Astral Form
When a projecting mage le... Aug 25 2005, 06:57 PM
SFEley QUOTE (Sharaloth)A mage being unable to pass easil... Aug 25 2005, 07:04 PM
Kagetenshi I just wanted to say that there's a lot here I... Aug 25 2005, 07:11 PM
Sabosect QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Expand on what you mean?
(For ... Aug 25 2005, 07:38 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (SFEley) QUOTE (Sharaloth)A mage being unabl... Aug 25 2005, 08:05 PM
SFEley QUOTE (hyzmarca) You wouldn't have to resist d... Aug 25 2005, 08:14 PM
Nyxll QUOTE (Sabosect) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 25 2... Aug 25 2005, 08:24 PM
Sharaloth QUOTE (SFEley) I don't think so. Again, it... Aug 25 2005, 09:12 PM
Nyxll QUOTE (Sharaloth) Astral Projection a difficult ta... Aug 25 2005, 09:19 PM
Sharaloth Not doing damage is irrelevant, as I never said it... Aug 25 2005, 10:00 PM
Catsnightmare Personally I think none of the above rulings need ... Aug 25 2005, 10:49 PM
Kagetenshi It is already broken. Just try to find a logic beh... Aug 25 2005, 11:34 PM
John Campbell QUOTE (SFEley)QUOTE (Sharaloth)A mage being unable... Aug 25 2005, 11:39 PM
Herald of Verjigorm 1) A full disconnect would make it nearly impossib... Aug 25 2005, 11:56 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE Also, Though I have no real problems with 2,... Aug 27 2005, 07:11 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 25 2005, 12:21 AM) 2)... Aug 27 2005, 07:25 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 25 2005, 12:21 AM) 3)... Aug 27 2005, 07:36 PM
Conskill QUOTE The fundamental issue being addressed here i... Aug 27 2005, 08:31 PM
Sharaloth QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 25... Aug 27 2005, 11:24 PM
hahnsoo How about this: The ability for a living thing to ... Aug 28 2005, 12:04 AM
Taran QUOTE (Sharaloth)Astral scouting is exactly as it ... Aug 30 2005, 05:13 AM
Kagetenshi Proposal #3 has fallen to the arguments against it... Aug 30 2005, 05:14 AM
lorthazar I'm always amazed how people can take somethin... Aug 30 2005, 02:02 PM
Kagetenshi That's based on a false extrapolation of rulin... Aug 30 2005, 02:08 PM
lorthazar No, it is based off reality. If something is solid... Aug 30 2005, 02:18 PM
SFEley QUOTE (lorthazar) No, it is based off reality. If ... Aug 30 2005, 02:23 PM
Kagetenshi The problem we were trying to address was that thi... Aug 30 2005, 02:26 PM
Shockwave_IIc QUOTE (Kagetenshi)Proposed changes:
1) The Astral... Aug 30 2005, 05:46 PM
Taran QUOTE (lorthazar)No, it is based off reality. If s... Aug 30 2005, 11:44 PM
hyzmarca This may seem like a silly idea, but I will offer ... Aug 31 2005, 01:18 AM
Link On the idea of the frosted plane of glass, the ast... Aug 31 2005, 02:35 AM
Crusher Bob Another bit to worry about is you can hear spoken ... Aug 31 2005, 02:46 AM
Eyeless Blond Well, my 2 cents:
Option 1&2 is a whole lot o... Aug 31 2005, 03:33 PM
Fortune Sorry, but I have to agree with Eyeless (and other... Aug 31 2005, 04:21 PM
Kagetenshi I'll have to think on Eyeless' suggested e... Aug 31 2005, 04:32 PM
Juggernaut125 I'm with the group that says that these rules ... Aug 31 2005, 05:18 PM
Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Kagetenshi) I'll have to think on Eyele... Sep 2 2005, 04:42 PM
Eyeless Blond *bump* and...
As long as we're thinking of ch... Sep 12 2005, 03:46 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Sep 12 2005, 10:46 AM)... Sep 12 2005, 03:54 PM
hahnsoo QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE 2a) Er, we ARE getting r... Sep 12 2005, 04:29 PM
Eyeless Blond QUOTE (Kagetenshi)QUOTE (Eyeless Blond @ Sep ... Sep 12 2005, 04:38 PM
hyzmarca QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE 1) Change "Detection... Sep 12 2005, 05:40 PM
Kagetenshi I misunderstood the implication, having forgotten ... Sep 12 2005, 05:43 PM
Nyxll QUOTE For clarity's sake this sounds like a go... Sep 12 2005, 06:37 PM
Eyeless Blond Oh, hey
5) SPELL RANGES!
Can't believe I... Sep 12 2005, 06:46 PM
Kagetenshi Elaborate?
I don't like the idea of giving sp... Sep 12 2005, 07:00 PM
Eyeless Blond Well there's a few issues here:
A) casting at... Sep 12 2005, 07:05 PM
Nyxll QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Elaborate?
I don't like th... Sep 12 2005, 08:10 PM
Kagetenshi So your opinion is to use the higher of the two en... Sep 12 2005, 09:12 PM
Nyxll QUOTE (Kagetenshi) So your opinion is to use the h... Sep 12 2005, 10:22 PM
Kagetenshi Here's a question for you, then… what about el... Sep 12 2005, 10:32 PM
Sharaloth Elemental manipulations and the Levitate spell do ... Sep 12 2005, 10:49 PM
Deamon_Knight Two thoughts:
IIRC, magic doesn't travel th... Sep 13 2005, 12:20 AM
Kyoto Kid Eliminate Magic Loss from Deadly wounds. This nev... Sep 13 2005, 09:03 PM
Catsnightmare I agree with this a little. No magic loss from De... Sep 13 2005, 11:30 PM
Kyoto Kid To elaborate on this, it would be a huge benefit t... Sep 14 2005, 09:12 PM
Chance359 5) Spell ranges: Spell ranges should be subject t... Aug 25 2006, 06:55 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Chance359) 5) Spell ranges: Spell ranges s... Aug 25 2006, 10:49 PM
Chance359 5) On page 86 of MitS, it gives a brief descriptio... Aug 27 2006, 11:42 AM
Bodak I missed this thread during my sojourn. Yay for ne... Aug 27 2006, 07:27 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Bodak @ Aug 27 2006, 02:27 PM) So how ... Aug 27 2006, 07:46 PM
Bodak When I first joined DS back on the old site I put ... Aug 27 2006, 08:31 PM
Kagetenshi @#$%#$@$ing hell…
Maybe it was SR2... Aug 27 2006, 11:00 PM
Bodak My interpretation when I'd read the books befo... Aug 28 2006, 09:52 PM
Sphynx My apologies for the late reply, I'm still pla... Dec 12 2006, 11:04 AM
nezumi QUOTE (Sphynx @ Dec 12 2006, 06:04 AM) We als... Feb 2 2007, 06:54 PM
nezumi To again respond to my own comment...
I feel like... Feb 2 2007, 07:15 PM
Herald of Verjigorm Spells:
a: yes
c: what's the issue?
e: Grimoir... Feb 2 2007, 09:55 PM
Kyoto Kid ...Seems the consensus is in favour of dropping th... Feb 3 2007, 08:19 AM
Sphynx QUOTE Astral & Essence
A) Astral scouting is o... Feb 3 2007, 09:04 AM
Garrowolf I guess I will try and confuse the issue.
If you ... Feb 3 2007, 10:32 AM
Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (Garrowolf) Add little strange spirits that ... Feb 3 2007, 02:21 PM
nezumi QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)c: what's the issue... Feb 3 2007, 02:35 PM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Feb 3 2007, 03:19 AM) ...S... Feb 3 2007, 04:00 PM
Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (nezumi @ Feb 3 2007, 09:35 AM) I like ... Feb 3 2007, 05:08 PM
Sphynx QUOTE
QUOTE I'm sorry. What's the issue? ... Feb 3 2007, 08:14 PM
Sphynx QUOTE (Kagetenshi) QUOTE (Sphynx)How about the one... Feb 3 2007, 08:18 PM
Kagetenshi I really don't see geasa as being core—can I h... Feb 3 2007, 08:32 PM
nezumi Sphynx, just to be clear, you'd be fine with s... Feb 3 2007, 11:37 PM
Herald of Verjigorm Ok, talismans must be prominent and uncommon. Any... Feb 4 2007, 03:56 AM
Sphynx YesNezumi, I'm ok with it being Sensory and In... Feb 4 2007, 08:52 AM
Sphynx Side Note, we should come up with what is 'Sen... Feb 4 2007, 09:18 AM
nezumi The problems with geas, going sample geas at a tim... Feb 4 2007, 02:17 PM
Sphynx Hmmm, I see where you're coming from. My own ... Feb 4 2007, 03:12 PM
Darkest Angel QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 25 2005, 06:21 AM) 2)... Mar 4 2007, 01:07 AM
Kagetenshi QUOTE (Darkest Angel)Totally disagree with this, e... Mar 4 2007, 02:32 AM
Gerzel The thing I got with Astral scouting is that A. Yo... Mar 4 2007, 04:12 AM
Darkest Angel QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
Does anyone see a way to resol... Mar 4 2007, 09:58 AM
Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Mar 3 2007, 09:32 PM) Ec ... Mar 4 2007, 12:28 PM
nezumi I believe the canon explanation is basically a mix... Mar 4 2007, 01:31 PM
Sphynx Well, my personal belief is that your Astral is co... Mar 5 2007, 08:05 AM
nezumi It did occur to me that that option is possible. ... Mar 5 2007, 03:00 PM
Random Voices It seems that this is the only magic thread coveri... Mar 7 2007, 03:03 PM![]() ![]() |
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