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 Dec 3 2004, 07:06 AM
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Hi I was wondering what happened to the Vatican and the Pope in Shadowrun?,
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Dec 3 2004, 07:15 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Well, long story short? Vatican City is a powerful base for the Church, which mostly rules the Papal States (Italy). They have a magical order of Priests (St. Sylvester) and a CIA (New Templars) which works to unhinge Tir na nOg and Aztlan - the Catholic haters that they are. Bunch of minor power bases around Europe, let me find that thread...
On Italy Templars RCC This post has been edited by Kanada Ten: Dec 3 2004, 07:19 AM |
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Dec 3 2004, 09:45 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Or you could read Shadows of Europe which pretty much covers the status of the Vatican/RCC, the Papacy, the Curia, Council of Cardinals and the Awakened Schism that divides it in the 206Xs. The New Templars (and Syvestrines) are also addressed in Threats 2. The New Jesuits (using Kanada's analogy, they're the Vatican's FBI) are spread out across several sources. There should be another surprise or two coming up soon enough...
And the Vatican's powerbase is slightly more widespread than just Europe. South America and parts of Africa and Asia have significant and pretty hardline Catholic populations. |
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Dec 3 2004, 12:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
I first ran across the Jesuits (in SR) in the Aztlan SB, and I've used them here and there throughout. As a side note, I seem to recall a mention of the elite Swiss Guard in an SR SB, but I can't for the life of me remember which.
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Dec 3 2004, 01:12 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
SOE perhaps? |
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Dec 3 2004, 02:43 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I think they were mentioned earlier than that, in relation to them still being the Pope's Guard, but can't think of where except maybe Germany Sourcebook. Damned senility!
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Dec 3 2004, 04:36 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Since the surprise's blown, you might also want to check the Vigilia Evangelica in the upcoming Loose Alliances book. Note it's been introduced in passing in SoE, but Loose Alliances should have a couple of serious surprises in store.
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Dec 3 2004, 06:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
It would be a much earlier book. Perhaps one of the old magic books, talking about phys ads. I don't know. I read it year ago, though.
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Dec 4 2004, 01:44 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Yeah, I remember that too. Maybe Germany or something before it. Where they first mention Vatican City, I think it says guarded by the elite Swiss Guard or something.
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Dec 4 2004, 03:04 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
That's pretty much what I remember. |
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Dec 4 2004, 03:19 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Well can you imagine what souped-up adepts armed with weapon focus halberds, along with tech and firearms, would be like? :)
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Dec 4 2004, 03:42 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Last thing you'll hear? "Amen!" |
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Dec 4 2004, 03:51 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
There used to be a site linked to on the Shadowrun Archive about the Swiss Guard. Had a quick look but the link's dead and I don't really remember what sort of quality it was.
Edit: And now I've got the urge to see if I can design an up-gunned 2060's version of the Pope-mobile using Rigger 3. :D |
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Dec 4 2004, 06:14 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 12-February 03 Member No.: 4,083 |
The Aztlan book had stuff on the New Jesuits. Of course, all that and more is also in SoE.
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Dec 4 2004, 01:41 PM
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Oh God... I had a bizarre image of "Shadowrun does The Magdalena"... Ooh! Ooh! Antagonist idea! What if the Holy Inquisition did not "go quietly into that dark night" but are alive and kicking as a renegade faction of the Church and planning a genocidal strike against magical types? |
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Dec 4 2004, 03:23 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Not exactly what you had in mind, but I'd suggest a peek at Loose Alliances for some surprises.
Note in RL the Office of the Holy Inquisition is still alive and kicking (and thriving as the most important Holy Congregation in the Roman Catholic Church), but what most people around here would find really interesting is the Congregation of Extraordinary Ecclesiastical Affairs. Look it up and you'll see what I mean. |
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Dec 4 2004, 03:42 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
That's it, man, I really have to submit something to FanPro... no wait... all my ideas have already been done :( ;)
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Dec 4 2004, 04:44 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Just to add to the church info, the two places Rome does not have a major open precense in Aztlan and Tir na Nog where the current regimes see it as subversive.
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