IIRC, Aztlan left the NAN a long time ago, because the others wouldn't back an invasion of Texas.

Anyway, Horizon is in the PCC now. Time will tell what happens.

Actually I did. It was a post a little back that had BIOLOGICAL in all caps. It was actually in reponse to what you wrote. No the argument against me was that sickle cell and certain cancers point to a biological difference and my point was that is in the same ballpark as skin color, facial structure, or whatever. That, I think, is the debate.

As to whatever Plat. meant by his original remark. Most everyone attacked it because they assumed he meant one thing that was of course thought to be false. (A literal No Color) I was merely trying to point out that he could have meant something else that could be shown to be true. (A figurative No Color) I don't know what he meant. Just pointing out the possibility of a possible factual claim. That was what I was pointing out. Plat.’s statement may not have been an opinion.

A rant: To speak or write in a angry or violent manner; rave

http://www.answers.com/topic/rant

Wow! I didn't think my writing was that bombast, but o.k., whatever.

And actually the definition for fact that I used was not the definition for fact you used.

Yours: (Remember, a fact is: "Something believed to be true or real". I believe I like chocolate.)

Mine taken from the Hurley book: a factual claim is "something that is true; a claim that evidence or reasons that support or imply something.”

A fact is not an opinion because an opinion doesn’t need evidence to support that claim. Because an opinion isn’t supported by evidence or support some conclusion there is no argument. “I like chocolate ice cream” is an opinion. Now if you were to show me pictures of you eating chocolate it might be a fact, or if someone asked me “Hey Lazarus, does Nezumi like chocolate?” I would say, “It is a fact that he says he likes it because he recently posted on a website his fondness for chocolate.” I can’t say for absolute certainty that you like chocolate. You could be lying. You could like it now and maybe not in the future. You could be mistaken about what chocolate is exactly. I know that is a little extreme but you can’t prove to me a truth value that solely subjective to you. I have to take your word for it. And that doesn't make it true.

Now you can prove that chocolate is well liked by millions of people of across the world, or at least millions of people say they like it. The chances that all of them are lying would be extremely remote.

Just because I believe something is true doesn’t make it true. I can believe that little men live in abandon car washes on the moon eating double cheeseburgers if I want to. Hell I could really, really believe it. But it doesn’t make it true. It’s not a fact because it isn’t supported by evidence. It’s just an opinion.

I am absolutely certain my race (Homo sapiens) is superior to all others. We really put those Pan Troglodytes, Gorilla Gorilla, and Tursiops Truncatus in their place.

My _ethnic_group_ on the other hand can be just as impulsive, foolish, insecure and paranoid as any other.

Regarding culture, Steven Hawking hopes there are no extraterrestrials close enough to earth to come visit. In human history, whenever a more technologically advanced civilization meets a less technologically advanced one, the more primitive culture is eventually subjugated.

Hawking fears this applies to all life in the galaxy, and anyone visiting us would have to be more advanced than us.

Went back and read over. Yeah, it's been a few days. I guess I just thought your assumption that Plat thinks there's a significant difference between the races was a bit of a reach, or at mimimum, derived from outside information. As you said, the core statement, there is no color, is wrong.

I was having difficulties thinking of another appropriate word. Better than diatribe. Monologue perhaps? Essay? Rant seems to be the popular word on forums.

Edit: Deleted responses to 'fact' statements, since they're irrelevant and I have better things to waste my time on (as does Lazarus, I presume).

From what I can gather, Thais' true form is obviously a Horror, but he can appear to be just about anything he wants to be. He appeared to these Native Americans in his true form and they accepted him anyway.

The low mana cycle actually effects him less than anyone else because of his mixed heritage. Being half metahuman, he can exist in the downcycle with no problem, being have Horror he has considerable control over what little mana exist during the downcycle. Aina can conjurer him at any time anywhere due to their bond but that seems to be the extent of what she can do to him from what I've read.

Ysrthgrathe is his father, as I mentioned earlier. He's one serious piece of work.

Ever wonder why the Arib world is so pissed at certain western groups/countries?

it also breeds terrorism too.

I always thought it was because they watch our (American) T.V. programming.

I don't know. Horrors don't follow the standard rules. Some of them are like spirits, astral beings that can manifest. Most, however, are much different. Some have one single body that can exist on either plane but only one at a time. Some can exit on one or both as they will it. Some have completely seperate physical and astral forms that can be half way around the world from each other with no ill effects. These are the most difficult to kill since one form can survive the other's death.

This is a job for AH.

I'll send up the AH Symbol right away.

(With apologies to Aku for stealing his gimmick.)

i donno how good it is though, i still dont think he's answered the first one, maybe i'll improve it tonight...

There weren't any dragon's around then, but there is a simple explination for it. You see, the SAIM members who launched the nuke had surprise on the strike team that was sent in and they used their surprise pass to launch the nuke. Fortunatly, they did not have surprise on Russia. Because of this, they couldn't harm Russia. So, while they were able to take the action, the nuke couldn't possibly have any effect.

True. But just for the sake of playing devil's advocate, your 1% is based on census data and current definitions of "native american" which is, what, 1/4 ascestry or more? 1/8? I honestly don't know. IIRC NAN accepts those with 1/64 ancestry or more, so this could increase the numbers significantly.
Further, you're assuming that every native american fights. A fine assumption for this extreme-case example. What percent of the US population is currently, actively enrolled in the military?