I'll have to read through the guidelines and make sure I know what's what, but I'm interested...I've had an idea for an ex Triad enforcer running through my head for a couple of days now, and this'll be a chance to use him.

An ex-Triad, or any organized crime type character would easily find a home in one of the many LiTS plot threads that are ongoing . . . now, whether that is a good thing for the player remins to be seen

Glad that you are interested!

I submitted a street level PC also. (currently in the reviewing stage) And am excited to play.

Wow, lots of new players. Glad to have you guys. Keep the faith, it can take a while before you get to post, but it will be worth it. Hell I have been around for a while now and I have yet to make it on a run, but I am still having a blast.

Having a blast, eh Slip? What an appropriate choice of words...

WR - Final sheet (save for about 400 in gear spending) has been sent your way for a looksee Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

Odd question, but is there any reference to the old English coastal defence emplacements in Shadows Of Europe? (or any other sourcebook, for that matter)

For those of you that're wonder what I'm on about, let me explain. Back in WW2, when it looked incredibley likely that the Germans would be invading by sea, they built a huge number of tiny oilrig alikes out in the ocean...they were, from what I remember, basically two pillars with an armoured bunker in the middle that had some anti ship guns in it.

Course, they were never needed, so after the second world war the guns were removed, but the emplacements themselves are still there. Anyway, about 6-7 years ago, in the height of the .com boom, someone had the bright idea of using these old emplacements as ultra secure server colos....I don't know if they're still in use, but the idea got me to thinking.

If, in the SR4 setting, those emplacements are still about (and still have that submerged hardline connection to the mainland) they'd be an ideal base for all sorts of interesting occupations, though smuggling was the one that I was thinking of (if the Triad he was a part of specialised in smuggling, it'd let me use one of the defences as a base, and give him a reason to be in Seattle).

Neon: here's a Wiki entry on that. Interesting reading. HavenCo (another Wiki entry) was the name of the colo you're talking about.

I don't remember specifically if SoE says anything about them, but maybe the London sourcebook or Target:Matrix maybe? I'm kinda short on the pre-3rd edition and Matrix books. I'll look up in SoE and get back to you.

As for them still being around in the 2060's, a lot of them probably are beyond repair, but after the Crash of '29 most of their record of even being there are gone as well. You'll still have some marked on charts as navagational hazards, but, as the Wiki entry shows, some are bound to still be around.

Ah, grendel's not so bad. He's like a teddy bear*. And, as long as these death-wish characters stay in SoCal, way away from Tony, I'm ok with that. Maybe he'll be distracted

*I used to have nightmares about those Teddy Ruckspin things. The eyes are freaky, man! Didn't help that I saw Chucky either that night...

I looked up a bit more on them earlier, and it turns out they constructed three of them. From what I read, one collapsed about 10 years ago, one is Sealand, and the other's still there.

There's also the old Army defences that used to be the location of Radio City in the 60s, which are probably the ones more likely to still be standing...not sure though.

Though this does lead me to wonder if anything like them would've been constructed in the Euro Wars..

Edit:

Would any of the GMs object if my characters background was he worked for a smuggling operation/Triad gang/whatever based out of something like the old sea forts?

There's got to be all sorts of abandoned facilities lying about off the coast of the UK, especially after the Euro Wars

Smugglers Havens has some stuff on bunkers but its mostly former Russian area. Maybe the (and I'll spell it wrong cause i dont have book handy at the moment) Vladivostok area. It was part of China until the end of the second Opium war when Russia took it as part of its treaty agreement, it was then and is now a large port city. The russian mobs are the main force but its a major stop over for smuggling operations (U.S., Europe and Asian) might be worth checking into, its in the smugglers havens book. Hit me up for more info if you dont have access to book.

Well, I've decided I'm going to try and figure out how to work the smugglers thing into it, though they might end up being based out of somewhere else.

And he's not a smuggler per se, he just works for them...which would give him a better reason to be in Seattle...since if they were looking to expand their operations, sending someone to make contacts and find out what's what beforehand might be useful...

You might try leaning away from the Triads and towards the Russian Vory as the Triads are established in Seattle with like 3 or 4 groups as the Vory arent really organized there yet. The Vory also are allowed to" freelance" as long as they follow the code, especially the part of kicking up money, where as Triad membership is for life....and they're serious about that.

Vegas and JackRipper - I've been having some computer problems lately, and it's putting me behind schedule on all Dumpshock related work. I'm not technically proficient enough to fix it myself (translation: I suck at computers. Horrendously.) so I have to have someone look at it for me. I'll try to get it fixed as soon as possible so I can finish up reviewing your characters and get back to you both. I apologize for the delay.

That i did not know ( I'm more in-tuned to this game than i was aware....or just lucky, yeah i'd take blind luck on this one)

almost done.... still working, don't think i'm not interested.... mostly the story and the contacts are getting breathed some more life into them....

Hey, Just wanted to announce that I´m interested, too and allready working on a PC. I just need some time, to hack all the background that swirls around in my head into the computer.

Welcome MK, glad to hear that you are interested. Do you mind giving us a short preview of your character concept while the ideas are freshly swirling in your head?

Thanks, well basically, I´m going for male, european, retired government-agent (some sense and headware, only).
Due to heavy, repeated and longtime use of programmable ASIST and Persona-Fixer BTLs for undercover purposes (maybe combined with some injury or illness and of course lack of training), however his former skills are deminished to nonexistent and his physique is frail and out of shape.
His biographical memory had been undamaged mostly (though he lost all memories not related to his person, like language and most knowledge skills as well), but the non-declerative memory was whiped clean. He had to relearn how to eat, walk, talk and use the bathroom.
On top of that his retirement fundes got burned up for health care and rehabilitation, so he´s now looking for some way to make a living.
He however, emerged out of his breakdown with two fields of expertise he had previously been compleatly incompetent in (or that was locked in his unconcious). He developed a talent for art and a small amber of magical talent was lit (magicia), though deminished through his implants he´s not very capable of anything magical at this point.

EDIT: This isn´t a shadowrunner (though he might develope into one) the PC has no plan, what to do for a living, yet (but there is enough money left to survive comfortably for another month or two).

Hey guys. I've read through quite a few pages of the LitS threads and a couple of stories and I wanted to let you know I'm interested. I've got a character in mind and I've got most of her backstory / 20 questions / etc written out. I'm just trying to struggle through the character creation, and especially the gear. I should have her ready to submit for review sometime in the next few days.

Happy to welcome another potential player to LiTS . . .welcome Grogs!

Just like I asked MK, would you mind sharing some of your character ideas with us while we await your submission?

Mm, nice juicy backgrounds all around, I think.

It'll be great to see your stories take shape if you decide to join our 'little' community. Excellent ideas so far!

Heheheheh. Riggers. SAMs. Doc Wagon tilt-rotors. Fresh meat. Heheheheheh.


Move along, citizen. Nothing to see here.

You should tm that last line.

One of the twenty questions is about enemies.

What's considered a good amount of detail about an enemy? One sentence, a paragraph, thousand word backstory?

In SR3 enemies are a flaw for which you got points to buy goodies. Is there an equivalent for SR4? e.g. you could consider enemies as negative BP at the same rate as contacts.

Couple things:

1. For all who are/have been submitting characters, just fyi, it takes me about 4-6 hours to review a character and write up my reply (ask anyone who's been/going through the process, my reviews are generally quite extensive), and I have a REALLY busy week up through the end of Sunday, so your patience is appreciated. But I will get to them as soon as I can in the order I receive them. After all, I am looking forward to having you all on board and want you to join us as fast as possible too!

2. Originally we used the Enemy Mechanic per SR Companion in the SR 3 version of LITS, but we have since removed it since the mechanic is no longer directly applicable. However, if you seek a guideline, then that is the one I suggest. The amount of detail should be directly related to how significant the enemy is.

If it's just someone that doesn't like you very much, a few sentences explaining who they are and why they don't like you will suffice. If they are your nemesis then much more detail is wanted. I realize that's very vague, but basically, the more important they are to your character's story, the more you should write. If we don't think what you provide is sufficient for us to GM them well, trust me, we'll ask you for more details.

As far as the Hunted/Extra Enemies flaw, if you really feel it's appropriate for the character's story we're willing to discuss it, but I will state this upfront: If you have the Hunted/Extra Enemies flaw, I absolutely guarantee they will come after you. Early and often, hard and fast. Enemies written into the backstory will be handled in a more relaxed manner, but any enemies you get BP for will definitely be a major part of your character's story.

3. I also remind everyone (not just DireRadiant) that flaws, both background and mechanical, come into play with much more regularity in LITS than a typical one-shot forum game. So far almost every PC with a flaw has had it exposed or otherwise had to deal with it in some way, shape, or form, so keep that in mind when you design your character. Small flaws (such as weak allergies, addictions, etc) are treated exactly as such, minor inconveniences that will bug you from time to time. Big flaws are big problems, and will be impact your character's life appropriately.

This is absolutely not intended to discourage anyone from anything for their characters, just fair warning and a repeat of the Guidelines that there are not really any 'cheap' flaws available in LITS.

Thanks for all the interest, please feel free to post any more questions as they arise and we will try to answer them as promptly as we can. I'm looking forward to having you all on board with us!

Hey Dragon has virtues! He's got lots of them in fact! He's stronger, faster, tougher, and flat out deadlier than most...oh wait, you were talking about character virtues, weren't you? Like, morals? Sorry, that term does not compute. Please rephrase your question.

I would like to add a character. Here is a quick overview. His name is Roc and he is a troll. His occupation would be the heavy; ie the bodyguard, collector of debts, bouncer etc. Roc is a physical adept specializing in melee. He would have no gun skills per se but he is fairly decent at throwing things shirken, rocks, grenades, and people etc. He would have decent perception and intimidation skill levels. The one flaw I would like to see him have is gremlins. Background he grew up in streets of the barrens plain and simple. He never joined a gang but instead would hire himself out to gangs needing extra muscle. I will flesh out the rest later.


Here is how Roc would describe himself. Let me know what additional questions you have.

Da namez Roc. Yez I'z a troll. Uz gots a problem wif dat? Whatz dat I do? I'z glad uz ask. Uz knows the big good lukin feller behind the scawny little bugger doing all the talkin? Dats me. Da good lukin feller ov corse. Dime ben a bodiguard, bouncer, and I'z collected debts from studips drekkers like uz who cant pay da man. U ceez I gots special abilitiez. Dime won of doez adepts. Uz needs some drekface'z legz broken. I'z the man forez uz. Whens I fights I uz mize fits, elboze, kneez, headz, and feetz. I'z reelz goods too. I'z also like to thowz tinz likes peoples, rocks, chairz, you namez it Iz throwz it. Waz I donts do so goods? Welz I hates to saz, buts I nots so goodz wif computerz and stuf. Big fingerz uz knowz. Wherz I za growz ups uz asks? Da barrens ov corse. Dat waz a touf lifes. But I'z realz smarts. I nos joinz nos gangs. I za freelancers. I za hires meesef outza to gangza needz help. I za makes a somes moniez dat ways to pays da bills. Nowza I lukin to go bigs timez. I za herds u haz a jobs for meez.

Wow, i'm like foaming at the mouth to get started with this and I have my sheet/background etc pretty much good to go (I hope) but I had a question... is there an agreed upon cost for street drugs in the LitS universe?

Trying to blow the last little bit of cash on gear + stuff

Thanks guys!

Most street drugs are going to be between 200 and 500 per dose depending on where you're shopping, what you're buying, and how much you'd like to purchase.

Isnt that steep for prices? (as compared to prices in Cannon companion for BTL, or Man & machine for street drugs) I'm asking this from an uninformed position to the LitS campaign setting.

So...I can't figure this out exactly...you're running SR4 rules with SR3 equipment and setting, circa 2064?

Yep, we are running SR4, and you'll be expected to build your characters with the SR4 ruleset in mind. Please note the following exceptions:

Well, I'm working on my magically charged character yet again. It's amusing, because an hour ago he was affording, then in a single movement in Excel, he's 5 points over. >.< lol....

I'll figure out how to fix that eventually.

Heh. It can be a little tricky getting the mechanics to work sometimes (just ask our current players about that ). The backstory is just as important, though. And we're more than willing to help you out with that.