Charon
Aug 5 2006, 08:03 PM
Missed that one until I got to review a first draft for a PC for my campaign.
p.83 SR4
15 BP for double essence cost on cyberware is downright silly when you are magically active or even a technomancer. But what do you know, the Combat mage archetype has it!
I probably just gonna say no. Anyone sees a reason for not outright banning this quality for PCs who are magically active? Or why there isn't at the very least a 15 BP (5 for magically active PC) mention?
Did I miss an errata?
phasmaphobic
Aug 5 2006, 08:15 PM
Personally, I don't see a big problem with it. Magicians spend so much BP as it is, that giving them a little something like this back doesn't bother me when I run games.
I've considered adding some extra stipulations to it, though, like increased penalties for medical/surgical healing and procedures, higher possibilities for essence loss, etc.
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 08:22 PM
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=13850My stance is to not allow it unless the character concept involves getting some cyber, but the thread linked to above has a lot of different ideas from a bunch of people.
Charon
Aug 5 2006, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the kink. When I searched Sensitive System, I got an error message instead of results.
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (Charon) |
Thanks for the kink. |
Is that a typo or do I know you in RL? :
Charon
Aug 5 2006, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (James McMurray @ Aug 5 2006, 03:37 PM) |
QUOTE (Charon @ Aug 5 2006, 03:24 PM) | Thanks for the kink. |
Is that a typo or do I know you in RL? : |
Or perhaps
you made a typo on the link and directed me to a kinky porn site, and I was thanking you for that!
... no it's a typo.
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Perhaps I could swap the Sensitive System to 15 (10 for magician) if the PC
also accept to double essence cost on bioware.
Between a wider ban and a less smaller reward, it seems more fair and less like feebie town.
Brahm
Aug 5 2006, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Charon @ Aug 5 2006, 03:03 PM) |
I probably just gonna say no. Anyone sees a reason for not outright banning this quality for PCs who are magically active? Or why there isn't at the very least a 15 BP (5 for magically active PC) mention? |
In practice it really isn't an issue due to a few factors. Even before factoring in that Geasa, that has now been confirmed are in Street Magic, and their [assumed] effect on making implants more viable for the Awakened.
P.S. Ironic that mages will have more options on implants than TMs.
But that's really off topic.
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 08:58 PM
Wow. I knew my prowess was legendary, but didn't realize it had made its way to Canada already.
Jaid
Aug 5 2006, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (Charon) |
Thanks for the kink. When I searched Sensitive System, I got an error message instead of results. |
use one word. two words = mass chaos for the board's search function, it seems.
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 09:26 PM
I did a search for sensitive system. It's how I found the link I posted above. Maybe it's a browser thing? I'm using IE 6
Charon
Aug 5 2006, 09:54 PM
QUOTE (Jaid) |
QUOTE (Charon @ Aug 5 2006, 03:24 PM) | Thanks for the kink. When I searched Sensitive System, I got an error message instead of results. |
use one word. two words = mass chaos for the board's search function, it seems.
|
It's exactly how it seems to be for me.
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 10:04 PM
What browser do you use?
Charon
Aug 5 2006, 11:08 PM
Internet Explorer Version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
I guess I should just have said IE6, huh?
James McMurray
Aug 5 2006, 11:48 PM
It ain't a browser problem then. Oh well. I guess I'm just special.
Charon
Aug 6 2006, 12:46 AM
Yes, I think you are 'special'.
ShadowDragon
Aug 6 2006, 01:20 AM
I ban many negative qualities, and sensitive system for awakened is one of them. If you read the whole book you can tell that SR4 is literally built around the asumption that the GM will houserule the game heavily, qualities should be no different.
hobgoblin
Aug 6 2006, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (Brahm) |
P.S. Ironic that mages will have more options on implants than TMs. But that's really off topic. |
you cant say that 100% until unwired comes out, as i have a feeling (or just a hope) it will contain a whole lot more about these magicans of the matrix.
Charon
Aug 6 2006, 02:19 AM
After chatting with the Player, I went ahead and let him play Sensitive System for 15 BP but it will apply also for bioware and he does intend to take a smattering of implants in early to mid-campaign.
James McMurray
Aug 6 2006, 02:23 AM
That's cool. If he plans to actually make it an issue you don't have to go the route that some have espoused of forcing it to become an issue with unwanted cyberware.
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