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Samaels Ghost
I've been distracted. I'm still in biggrin.gif I plan on hacking the target's comm and home network soon. School's started and I'm settling in.

I'll post tomorrow sometime.
Mekalus
[ Spoiler ]


If the target is within jogging distance then Slyph will alter appearance and go for a jog past the target residence. Provided no one has any objections and its not too late in the day to do so. Otherwise he will wait till the next day. Our cybereye camcorder is of course welcome to go on the jog with me. smile.gif
Green Eyed Monster
It is dusk.


I hope the place sounds like a dump. It should still function as a safehouse.
Samaels Ghost
First, I want as much info on communications to and from the house in question. Who has he been calling? I'm not sure if there is a way to do that without hacking, but if I was able to analyze info on the surrounding houses, I may be able to do that.

I'll be making a Hot-sim, Probe the Target test for Admin access with 13 dice (6 Hacking + 5 Exploit limited by System + 2 hot-sim) on the target's house. I'm going to locate the utilities control and then the security system (5 Analyze limited by System + 2 Computer + 2 Hot-sim plus maybe some Edge if needed).

I want control over the house's lighting, electricity, and other such things to aid infiltration. Security layout including feeds and what I can and can't control remotely is what I want to know.

Also, before I leave the network, I'll want to create a backdoor with 13 dice (pg. 225, Hacking 6 + Edit 5 + 2 Hot-sim). This'll let me log on later to control things during the infiltration. I will want to use Edge on this.

My program load will be as follows:
Exploit -> Biofeedback Filter
Stealth
Analyze
Sniffer -> Edit

After infiltration I'll drop my Expliot and load Biofeedback Filter.
3 Copies of my Agent program working independantly on the separate comm each loaded with Exploit, Analyze, Attack. I can command them to attack a system in unison to create a distraction (since they have no Stealth). If any of them are traced, they are traced back to my old comm ($3000 Tactical/Vanilla comm (4/5)) which is in a safety deposit box downtown. That's why I use the Satellite link, to communicate with them directly. That com is kept clean of info that can be traced back to me. It has no serial number or identiying info because I made it myself.

I think you're rolling for us right? Is there any other info you need to make this part go faster? I tried to include some strategy and goals so that you can have some idea ahead of time what i'll be doing.
Samaels Ghost
Oh, and I plan on placing a Sniffer bug in the security feeds, like directly in the cameras where IC doesn't patrol as much.
Mekalus
OK Dusk is good for the drive-by I think. Maybe if we are lucky we will get enough info from that to not have to make a second pass. If its too poor for video at least we can get an astral peek and then do a jog by the next morning for the video. This is provided of course that people actually do go for morning jogas around there. If so then Garett? and I can go for a run and get a daylight recording and second view. Not sure ifyou want to roll for us looking like your typical joggers or not (Maybe an infiltration roll to look inconspicuous? Slyph would be 2 for infiltrate skill + 6 for agility for that. Then for the perception test we are looking for outdoor signs of security as well as scouting probable entry and exit points in a short period of time (ie without staring intently at the house) Dice for Slyph for that would be 4 for perception(visual spec.) + 5 for Intuition + 2 for Enhanced perception. Of course Slyph will alter his appearance using both Melanin control and facial sculpt.

This is of course if the team agrees with this approach. biggrin.gif
ARKARY
Hmm, would a video camera work if it was invisible? If the astral check of the outside doesn't show anything, I could walk around invisible with a camera... provided that being invisible doesn't make the camera not work.
Samaels Ghost
doublepost
Samaels Ghost
QUOTE (ARKARY)
Hmm, would a video camera work if it was invisible? If the astral check of the outside doesn't show anything, I could walk around invisible with a camera... provided that being invisible doesn't make the camera not work.


If YOU can see while invisible, your camera can.

As for looking inconspicous, that's probably an etiquette check.
Mekalus
Keep in mind the target is magically active and invisibility makes you invisible in the flesh world but then you kinda stand out in the astral one. (Or did that change?)
ARKARY
You're still visible, but that's why I said to check it out first to see if it would be safe to do a preliminary look-around.
Samaels Ghost
I'd like to play. Is this going to be a consistent problem? I'm totally ready to go hacking. And i'm sure everyone else is itching to do SOMETHING other than plan. We haven't even gotten into Legwork yet.
silentmaster101
id like to play as well, and i just got back from dragoncon, so have a bot more experiance with shadowrun 4.
Green Eyed Monster
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
I'd like to play. Is this going to be a consistent problem? I'm totally ready to go hacking. And i'm sure everyone else is itching to do SOMETHING other than plan. We haven't even gotten into Legwork yet.

I am posting from the local library. For some reason, every time I try to go to DS from home, it was saying page not found. Evidently I have a problem at home.

I hate the hacking part of the game, so I was putting that off. And the rest of you sound like you may or may not have a further course of action.

Since I am unprepared here and now, I will give some information that you may work into your IC posts as you carry out actions.

Hacking - You find 3 cameras around the 3 doors that enter the residence: front, back, basement in back, as well as one pointing toward the garage from the back of the home. The windows are alarmed, the doors are maglocked and standard alarmed. This looks like all the matrix/hackable security. There is less electronics in the home than the average home. You establish the back door. No IC tried to kill you, so you think you were quite successful, or you become very paranoid.

On the astral and drive by: nice sloping, green, well tended lawns. Windows visible set in stone of porch (it is a tall porch because of the slope, and the windows denote the basement.) Queen Anne/victorian style 2 story/basement/attick home (dormer windows in attic area.) You are a bit taken aback by all the stonework and wood materials used in constructing the entire neighborhood. It is like looking at antiques.

Nothing unusual from the street, nothing on the astral, no spirits in the front yard. If you want to explore the house astrally, tell me where you are entering and your method/grid of exploring.

I hope this lets you respond while I try to get internet access straightened out.

AND again, sigs in IC post.
Samaels Ghost
I'll work with that. Good to hear from you GEM and good luck with getting things straightened out.
Samaels Ghost
I was trying to visualize the surrounding area around the house from the descriptions given so far, and was having a hard time. After some thought and a little Paint, I came up with very simple pics of what I think the neighbohood is set up.

The site a gave earlier with our character sheets is where I posted them.
http://www.geocities.com/samaelsghost/

Is this how everyone else pictured it?
Mekalus
Dont know if its just because I am at work and the firewall isn't allowing it or not but I get a page can not be found when I click on the links to show the pics on your page.
silentmaster101
me too


to GEM i was wondering if i could still make a quick change to my character after a rule clarification at the D*con.

I would like to add the quick healer quality (10 BP)
and add a moderate allergy to orchilium (+10 BP)

if that is alright. because i was just told that the quick healer quality adds to tests to heal others also, as well as myself. they didnt clarify that in the original version of the sr 4 rules book, but the 1.1 version adds "for/on/by him/her"
Green Eyed Monster
QUOTE (silentmaster101)
to GEM i was wondering if i could still make a quick change to my character after a rule clarification at the D*con.

I would like to add the quick healer quality (10 BP)
and add a moderate allergy to orchilium (+10 BP)

if that is alright. because i was just told that the quick healer quality adds to tests to heal others also, as well as myself. they didnt clarify that in the original version of the sr 4 rules book, but the 1.1 version adds "for/on/by him/her"

I would rather not.
Green Eyed Monster
A note about the Queen Anne Hill neighborhood. This was the upper class part of town when it was buit in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The homes are mansions and mini mansions, built for robber barons and the like. About every city I have been to has a similar area. There are no apartment buildings. Over time, some of the homes have fell on hard times and have been divided into apartments and rooming houses.

Lilith - sigs.
Samaels Ghost
QUOTE (silentmaster101)
me too


to GEM i was wondering if i could still make a quick change to my character after a rule clarification at the D*con.

I would like to add the quick healer quality (10 BP)
and add a moderate allergy to orchilium (+10 BP)

if that is alright. because i was just told that the quick healer quality adds to tests to heal others also, as well as myself. they didnt clarify that in the original version of the sr 4 rules book, but the 1.1 version adds "for/on/by him/her"

It may say that, but that doesn't make much sense....
silentmaster101
thats fine GEM.


i asked the judges at d*con about it, and apparently it was ment to mean that the character is better at healing things thus doing it quicker. thats there take, but since i wont change my character it really wont matter.
Green Eyed Monster
Ok, the people going on the drive by recon are loaded in one of the vans and on their way. Who is going and who is driving? Anything you are waiting on me for?
Mekalus
I am simply waiting to see if Jill decides she is driving or not then we are off. If she is driving then I will be in the passenger otherwise I will drive and hope nothing goes wrong. smile.gif
ARKARY
I'm already in the back just waiting for someone with keys, and I promise to not ask, "Are we there yet?" biggrin.gif
silentmaster101
me too, but i think i will leave my alpha at the safe house for this.
LilithTaveril
Sorry for my delays. I've been having severe computer troubles as of late.
Samaels Ghost
Am I able to disengage locks or alarms from the security system access that I obtained?
Mekalus
Mostly solidifying what you have told us in your previous post Green. After returning to the hole Slyph will either retire for the evening into the other cot or chat with Jill some more depending on her response to his charm.
ARKARY
I'm taking a look around the house in astral while we're nearby. Aside from the preiminary glimpse we got, while the van is stopped I'm astrally projecting to go around the house and look around, using any solid objects or living plants as astral cover, in case any watchers are looking out the windows for intruders. I'm not going to try and enter the place now, as I don't want to tip any astral guards off before we actually strike. If everything I can see looks clear, we can plan for any other magical contingencies as we come across them.
Green Eyed Monster
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
Am I able to disengage locks or alarms from the security system access that I obtained?

No, need to hack them individually.

QUOTE (ARKARY)
I'm taking a look around the house in astral while we're nearby. Aside from the preiminary glimpse we got, while the van is stopped I'm astrally projecting to go around the house and look around, using any solid objects or living plants as astral cover, in case any watchers are looking out the windows for intruders. I'm not going to try and enter the place now, as I don't want to tip any astral guards off before we actually strike.


You can describe it in your post about not running into anything magical around the outside of the house.
Samaels Ghost
I'm kinda curious about what's on everybody's minds right now. You, the players.

To me, it doesn't seem like anyone is that excited about where the mission is going so far. There doesn't seem to be quite enough gold at the end of the rainbow, if you catch my drift. Now if there were some intrigue, action orprospect of future development of the team as a whole, maybe we'd be more motivated, no? Think about it, what happens after we steal the gun? We hand it over and get paid. From what I can tell breaking into the place isn't going to be hard and getting out probably won't be either. There's not really a challenge ahead of us, we're just going through the motions. What's the fun in that? If we had a real tough nut to crack, i bet there'd be more activity. If we were in immediate danger, I bet there'd be more action and excitement. If there were some scary underlying story, would we be more interested in moving things along?

I know our GM has been having computer trouble, that's fine. There's no fault in that. But I'm afraid of two things here.
One, that this will never pan out because the end in sight doesn't seem worth working towards.
Or two, that the end actually won't be worth working towards and we trudge through it only to be disapointed.

I'm ready and willing to do my part to make things interesting. I'll dig for info on the gun, on the owner, on the gun's former owner. But I'm afraid that there's nothing to be found under the surface. Is there a catch? Is there a twist? Are the origin's of the gun worth finding?
What does this run truly have in store for us?

I'm not hatin', I'm just being a little critical in light of the progress we have made. I am new to forum play so maybe things just go this slowly, but I don't know...If this is the way it's going to be then maybe we should step back and reconsider how things need to be done. Does anyone have a solution that we could try? How do we solve this very slow game? Is it worth fixing if the result is dull and unsatisfying?
LilithTaveril
I think the issue is that we have two people with computer problems. On my end, the internet is as reliable as a Metal Storm assault rifle.
Samaels Ghost
Two? Who else?
Mekalus
I think Lilith is reffering to herself and our GM. I'm willing to play this one out and see where it takes us. Truely there is a lot we don't know about what we are going to run into. The GM has been, I think, very sly on the setup of the security of the house. I think once we make our run we will be in one heck of a fight and we will be thrown many curve balls so to speak to throw our best laid plans awry. The GMs comp problems are probabley the main thing slowing this run down as we all wait for his next opportunity to post us when the next day starts or next thing he has planned happens. Otherwise we could simply push forward say its tomorrow morning and proceed with our prep work. For example since our hacker has access to the sec cams we can see what our targets habits are for a day or three and then plan to hit the target when he isn't there and hopefully when the neighborhood is at its emptiest. Those are my thoughts.
silentmaster101
oh im up for it completely, although now is more the time when my character has to just wait around, as i dont have much to do.
ARKARY
Yeah, I think the real issue is there's not a whole lot we can do until we decide to just go for it and hit the building.
silentmaster101
best i can do is have a few fellow gangers standing by in a bar close to the target or something to give us backup if we need it, if i pull a favor in from my contact, but i feel i have pulled enough from her for now.
Green Eyed Monster
I guess it is time to assert some leadership. I have the computer problem solved, but it is kind of a pain to post. I thought the OOC information I gave was implemented well into the IC posts by the PCs. I also thought people were getting settled at school this week IRL, so wasn't going to prod anyone. I also figured sooner or later it would dawn on people that there needs to be a plan made and the theft carried out.

In my experience of online games, this is where most fold. The PCs will keep looking for clues, or doing legwork, or trying to find out every bit of information possible and never actually do the run. I will remind you that the more you dig, the more word spreads that someone is looking to boost this particular gun.

You have also not really left yourself open for random violence, and I'm afraid if I throw some in, it will really throw you paranoid people of track wondering who this "other" party is that is out to get you.

I would suggest forming a plan, and rolling time forward.

Potential data Hayter could get is that lights are on in the basement all night. A trideo set was in use during prime time and shut off after the news.
Samaels Ghost
I agree with moving things foreword, but most of that is going to be done by the phyiscal infiltrators, not me. I;ve got my backdoor that I can tap into when things go down and give matrix overwatch the best I can, but other than that I'm not sure I can do anything but sit in my van. Not complaining, just lettin' you guys know. Me going with you into the place is kinda a bad idea.
silentmaster101
well once we do this drive by and look the place over quick, i could either go in as fire support, or stay out front as sniper for cover/lookout. all im waiting for is the legwork to finish so i can do my part.

and i need my stuff, im assuming this it the second day, so if we do the run after the 3rd we will be fine, right?
Green Eyed Monster
QUOTE (silentmaster101)
well once we do this drive by and look the place over quick, i could either go in as fire support, or stay out front as sniper for cover/lookout. all im waiting for is the legwork to finish so i can do my part.

and i need my stuff, im assuming this it the second day, so if we do the run after the 3rd we will be fine, right?

I am figuring about midnight of the first day. By noon of the next day, you will have had 4 hours of planning and about 8 hours nappy time.
Mekalus
Ok I posted an IC post making some small assumptions. I am assuming the target has times of the day he is gone so I think hitting the place during the day when most peeps are at work is a good idea. Reduces the number of people who might witness the breakin. We might also be able to disguise ourselves as a repair crew to throw off suspicion a bit? Anyway lnk what you think.
Green Eyed Monster
Is there a plan?

should I recruit a few more players?

Let it die a slow death?
silentmaster101
i was assuming we would all just waltz in the back door, and make the plan up as we go.
Mekalus
Think once this geets rolling the others will start activley posting again but we shall see.
silentmaster101
i hope so. but its not like my character's role comes first in a run, im usually the mop up guy.
Mekalus
Well its looking like this is a dead run so I guess I am out.
silentmaster101
no! it must live!
Green Eyed Monster
It looks like this dog has died. If no one noticed, I tried getting some replacement players so we could continue, but I got zero responses. When one of the few remaining announce they are resigning, it signals the end.

Sorry I couldn't grab everyones attention. Too bad we did not even get to the first plot twist.

Thanks for playing. Everyonr grts a point of karma. Those that tried to keep it going, take 10 karma.
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