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I'd like to make an Inhabiting Guidance spirit inhabiting a Lone Star iBall drone. Does that work?
The All Seeing Eye
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How hard are the first runs going to be? And how will we get karma from the Dream pact, or other spirit pacts? And will Realistic Form keep us from getting found if we're a possession spirit?
Tu Shu Guan is now materializing, just so you know.
Tu Shu Guan is now materializing, just so you know.
Damitt, still haven't got a magic book yet, the store was out of them.
Looks like it will take me a while to submit a character if it is still open, but am working on it. No worries if I turn out to be too late though.
Looks like it will take me a while to submit a character if it is still open, but am working on it. No worries if I turn out to be too late though.
It doesn't seem that Street Magic would be required to make a character (at least, if you intend to be an elemental spirit, spirit of man, or of beasts)... but there are a few new powers that would open up new options.
There is no obligation for you to own street magic. Just take a basic spirit (either hermetic or shamanic) and basic spirit powers...You have until Sunday to submit a character, though. After that, I'll start the campaign.
DireRadiant: You're character concept is interesting, though the form will not have the ability modifier of the basic spirit type since it is an inhabiting spirit. Instead, the strength and agility will be equal to the spirit's force, body is equal to the drone's body plus the spirit's force and finally, reaction is equal to the drone's handling plus the spirit's force.
DireRadiant: You're character concept is interesting, though the form will not have the ability modifier of the basic spirit type since it is an inhabiting spirit. Instead, the strength and agility will be equal to the spirit's force, body is equal to the drone's body plus the spirit's force and finally, reaction is equal to the drone's handling plus the spirit's force.
Tu Shu Guan will get shitloads of karma just by bribing people. I'm so excited!
I'll create an OOC topic to get started. The IC topic will be uploaded as soon as i receive and approve everyone's character sheet.
Am I approved?
And could you post after-chargen rules for spirits spending karma?
And could you post after-chargen rules for spirits spending karma?
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I had been contemplating inhabiting a rotodrone with an LMG for some serious combat effectiveness. But I don't think that would be as much fun. Though the other idea would have been a Westwind called Christine...
All Seeing Eye
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I had been contemplating inhabiting a rotodrone with an LMG for some serious combat effectiveness. But I don't think that would be as much fun. Though the other idea would have been a Westwind called Christine...
Should we be buying Fake SIN's and purchasing lifestyles?
I was hoping to be posessing/inhabiting whichever it is.
Actually being basically an animate extruded diamond if possible. That or a big giant pile of mud.
Actually being basically an animate extruded diamond if possible. That or a big giant pile of mud.
No stats for that sort of host, they need to be articulated. Just go for manifesting manifest as a crystal humanoid, works for an earth spirit for m.
Is this the kind of thing you were after?
Have I missed anything?
Spoilered to save space, anybody who feels like it can read it and make suggestions.
How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle?
Have I missed anything?
Spoilered to save space, anybody who feels like it can read it and make suggestions.
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How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle?
Is this the kind of thing you were after?
Have I missed anything?
Spoilered to save space, anybody who feels like it can read it and make suggestions.
How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle?
Have I missed anything?
Spoilered to save space, anybody who feels like it can read it and make suggestions.
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How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle?
I think you get one point of edge for free, so the 10 points you put therewould put your edge at 2, and you would get 2 free powers (in addition to the list of ones we all get from the character generation rules) because of it.... I thought that all manifesting spirits had immunity to normal weapons, but I could be wrong. Either way, you're covered.
| QUOTE (BlackHat) |
| I think you get one point of edge for free, so the 10 points you put therewould put your edge at 2, and you would get 2 free powers (in addition to the list of ones we all get from the character generation rules) because of it.... I thought that all manifesting spirits had immunity to normal weapons, but I could be wrong. Either way, you're covered. |
ooooh, I didn't give myself a power for the first point of edge you start with, only for the one I bought with BP.
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| Is this the kind of thing you were after? Have I missed anything? Spoilered to save space, anybody who feels like it can read it and make suggestions. [ Spoiler ] How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle? |
You also start with
Powers
- Astral Form
- Banishing Resistance,
- Sapience
- Spirit Pact
Skills
- Assensing
- Astral Combat
- Dodge
- Perception
- Unarmed Combat
Positive Quality
Magician
Oooohh............. I'm very tempted to join in if I can......... I have an idea for a magician type spirit, specialising in 'dark' magic. Only thing is, I've never used spirits before- Ophis or Ankle Biter, could you give me some advice please if there's still space for me? I'll need to do a bit of reading me thinks.
Name: 'Hecate'
Manifest form: Appears as a tall, slender, pale skinned female, possibly either human or elf- her ears are usually hidden beneath hair and hat so one doesn't know, although it leans more towards elf than human. 'She' appears to dress in a fairly stereotypical 'witchy' garb, in a long purple skirt decorated with yellow magic circles along the bottom, a matching corset, long black, curley-toed heeled boots and a tall black witches hat. Tons of thin, golden bangles adorn each arm, with a thicke band wrapping its way around her upper right arm. Long, dip-dyed hair starts off black at the roots and fades into a mid purple at the ends, and bright blue eyes twinkle mischieviously from beneath the long, choppy bangs of hair. She's rarely seen without her 'magic staff', an intricately carved ebony staff with a turquoise crystal set into the end.
Background (brief):
'Hecate' as her last master had named her had always enjoyed being a helping hand to witches and magicians, especially those who called on the power of the powers of the dark and shadows. Her last master had been an elven stage magician in England, who had used her as his assistant in many of his shows. She'd been very fond of him, acting quite flirty with him until his untimely death in a tragic accident. Following this event, she has been left feeling lonely, and has returned to helping out spell casters for the time being.
Recently, Hecate made the decision to start working across the Atlantic- staying in England was too close to her old master for the time being. Funny that she should have gotten so attatched to him...... he was an elf, and 'she' a Spirit of Man who'd taken a female form.
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How's this for a start?
Name: 'Hecate'
Manifest form: Appears as a tall, slender, pale skinned female, possibly either human or elf- her ears are usually hidden beneath hair and hat so one doesn't know, although it leans more towards elf than human. 'She' appears to dress in a fairly stereotypical 'witchy' garb, in a long purple skirt decorated with yellow magic circles along the bottom, a matching corset, long black, curley-toed heeled boots and a tall black witches hat. Tons of thin, golden bangles adorn each arm, with a thicke band wrapping its way around her upper right arm. Long, dip-dyed hair starts off black at the roots and fades into a mid purple at the ends, and bright blue eyes twinkle mischieviously from beneath the long, choppy bangs of hair. She's rarely seen without her 'magic staff', an intricately carved ebony staff with a turquoise crystal set into the end.
Background (brief):
'Hecate' as her last master had named her had always enjoyed being a helping hand to witches and magicians, especially those who called on the power of the powers of the dark and shadows. Her last master had been an elven stage magician in England, who had used her as his assistant in many of his shows. She'd been very fond of him, acting quite flirty with him until his untimely death in a tragic accident. Following this event, she has been left feeling lonely, and has returned to helping out spell casters for the time being.
Recently, Hecate made the decision to start working across the Atlantic- staying in England was too close to her old master for the time being. Funny that she should have gotten so attatched to him...... he was an elf, and 'she' a Spirit of Man who'd taken a female form.
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How's this for a start?
| QUOTE (Ankle Biter) |
| How on earth do I figure out starting lifestyle? |
I think this constitutes one of the early challenges of hte campaign. How do we get SIN or certified credsticks and use them to support our lifestyles. Or gain contacts or whatever. Should be fun.
| QUOTE (Tattered~Seraphim) |
| How's this for a start? |
I think character entries are still being accepted until this Sunday - the link to the character creation rules is in the original post.
Depending on whether or not the spirit is manifesting or inhabiting or possessing, I'm not sure what the rules are on spirits owning items. I guess if they can manifest with clothes on, they could manifest with a staff - and just never be able to drop the staff since its as much a part of them as their arm or leg.If you wanted to be a spirit who possessed a witch, or who was bound to a human body, I think it would make more sense to have a signature item on hand - otherwise, when you go astral, you'd leave it behind and it would be tough to always keep it with you unless you always materialized in the same place.
| QUOTE (DireRadiant) |
| I had been contemplating inhabiting a rotodrone with an LMG for some serious combat effectiveness. But I don't think that would be as much fun. Though the other idea would have been a Westwind called Christine... |
I like the idea. It probably deviates from canon a bit (not sure, I've never been that big into the SR books - but I am pretty sure that the idea of a person becoming a spirit is a new one).
The problem with being a rotodrone with an LMG would be that spirits inhabiting (or materializing as) inanimate objects can operate their 'mechanical' functions, but cannot operate their complex electronic ones. Not sure how this would affect being a crawler drone (but at least there is no weapon-link or smart-link to mess with)... but one example they give is a spirit in the form of a car being unable to access the matrix (or wireless functionality) at all, but being able to drive around just fine. Of course, Brenda should be able to help you with the functions you can't access directly, and I think that sharing your "body" with an electronic spirit (agent, whatever) is pretty sweet. Could only be cooler if it was a complex form.
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| Could only be cooler if it was a complex form. |
Hmm, but how would I figure out the BP for that? But it -would- be fun. Machine Sprite and Inhabiting spirit!
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Hmm, but how would I figure out the BP for that? But it -would- be fun. Machine Sprite and Inhabiting spirit! |
Yeah, I have no idea how. Besides, even if you convinced a technomancer to put one in there, it would only owe a certain number of tasks, and not to you...
Course, down the road, nothing is stopping that drone from having a pilot program, an inhabiting spirit AND a complex form if you got a technomancer contact or something who could keep recompiling it.
| QUOTE (BlackHat) |
| I think you get one point of edge for free, so the 10 points you put therewould put your edge at 2, and you would get 2 free powers (in addition to the list of ones we all get from the character generation rules) because of it.... I thought that all manifesting spirits had immunity to normal weapons, but I could be wrong. Either way, you're covered. |
I thought it was one power per edge bought, not one power per edge, rechecking yow were rignt, so I will go for immune normal weapons, and hardened armor, if they are available.
You only get immune normal if you are a possessing or inhabiting spirit, but you lose astral form if that is the case, from the look of things.
As I said I just want to play the mobile wall. heh heh.
Hmm....... the now being bound to a human/ elf body could make sense (say, the body originally belonged to Hecate's master's assistant or girlfriend, but following an accident of sorts Hecate and the assistant bound themselves together)..... However, I was trying not to go down that route for certain reasons.... 
Or a solution to the never dropping it is that when she doesn't want to carry it, 'she' carries the staff on her back.
Or a solution to the never dropping it is that when she doesn't want to carry it, 'she' carries the staff on her back.
Doesn't Materialization just give you immunity to normal weapons?
| QUOTE (Tattered~Seraphim) |
| Hmm....... the now being bound to a human/ elf body could make sense (say, the body originally belonged to Hecate's master's assistant or girlfriend, but following an accident of sorts Hecate and the assistant bound themselves together)..... However, I was trying not to go down that route for certain reasons.... Or a solution to the never dropping it is that when she doesn't want to carry it, 'she' carries the staff on her back. |
Well, what I meant was that if Hecate was a materialization spirit, but the staff was a normal wooden staff - even if she put it on her back, when she de-materialiazed and went back to the astral, she couldn't take it with her (at least, not without the astral gateway power). Of course, if the staff was actually part of her physical form, she could, but then she couldn't drop it or give it away or anything (thought strapping it to her bakc might make sense).
For example, I could see a warrior or guardian spirit materializing as a ghostly knight weilding a sword. That sword (and his armor) would just be part of his form, though, and wouldn't actually provide him with more armor, or a better damage code or anything... and he couldn't be disarmed or de-armored.
Course, maybe I am just misunderstanding things and all spirits materialize naked.
Not sure, but I hope that's not the case!
| QUOTE (BlackHat @ Sep 21 2006, 10:02 AM) |
| For example, I could see a warrior or guardian spirit materializing as a ghostly knight weilding a sword. That sword (and his armor) would just be part of his form, though, and wouldn't actually provide him with more armor, or a better damage code or anything... and he couldn't be disarmed or de-armored. Course, maybe I am just misunderstanding things and all spirits materialize naked. Not sure, but I hope that's not the case! |
That's kind of the idea I had for the staff, with it being somethign that's part of her manifested form; the same kind of thing goes for her hat- she can take it off but not drop it. The staff is the focus through which her spells are cast. And yup, her 'clothing' really is just a part of her manifested form.
Oh, and as an addition note of info, despite her tradition, Hecate's actually quite a fun loving, quite chaotic at times, and intelligent creature, with a fondness of black felines. Although goddess help you if you make her mad!
Spirit of Man? or Shadow Spirit?
Sounds a little bit like a spirit of Man, though a "Muse" spirit might enjoy helping a magician entertain.
Sounds a little bit like a spirit of Man, though a "Muse" spirit might enjoy helping a magician entertain.
Not sure yet. Me thinks that I will have to read up spirits in the rules book some more! I can tell already that shes definitely hermetic of some kind. She leans more towards chaotic than evil (unless you p*ss her off), and draws on the magic of the darkness as the opposite to light. So shadow spirit might fit.
Shadow spirits are mostly towards evil, plus you can't really summon them as normal, I'd suggest spirit of man for the concept, probably wiccan or druidic given being english.
If I recall correctly, possessing spirits give their immunity to weapons (yes, they do have it) to their vessel. It's mentioned several times in the section. Materializing spirits gain it from Materializing too, so it's part of the 'ability' and not separate (though there are armor powers).
I dont' remember if inhabiting spirits also have it, but I would think they do. It's a spirit thing.
I dont' remember if inhabiting spirits also have it, but I would think they do. It's a spirit thing.
Hecate uses the 'staff' more as a giant magic wand than anything else.
I'm no expert on the differences, but here's my take:
Spirits of man are spirits of humanity, they tend to represent concepts related to mankind. Either things found around people like computers, sidewalks, cars, cities, traffic, trash, as well as types of people like policemen, kings, knights, whatever. The core book probably does a good job explaining htem, but I'm at work so I can't get to er.
Shadow spirits are (if I am not mistaken) spirits of the twisted path, but at the very least, dark magic... pretty much the types of spirits that people consider demons, wraiths, ghosts and whatnot. They feed on powerful emotions, and so also represent concepts related to humanity, but more those of powerful (often negative) emotions: sorrow, lust, greed, hate, violence, etc. Even the muse, which is a type of shadow spirit that feed on inspiration (not innately negative) is portrayed as often driving its "victems" to neglect sleep, food, and other necessities in persuit of their art... eventually draining them of their spark of life, and reveling when their creative outlet collapses around them. So, in general, pretty nasty things - of course, SR doesn't really have alignments, so there is no reason Hecate couldn't be a particularly nice one, but if she's a shadow spirit she probably feeds off of some human emotion (unless you don't buy the power, I guess).
Spirits of man are spirits of humanity, they tend to represent concepts related to mankind. Either things found around people like computers, sidewalks, cars, cities, traffic, trash, as well as types of people like policemen, kings, knights, whatever. The core book probably does a good job explaining htem, but I'm at work so I can't get to er.
Shadow spirits are (if I am not mistaken) spirits of the twisted path, but at the very least, dark magic... pretty much the types of spirits that people consider demons, wraiths, ghosts and whatnot. They feed on powerful emotions, and so also represent concepts related to humanity, but more those of powerful (often negative) emotions: sorrow, lust, greed, hate, violence, etc. Even the muse, which is a type of shadow spirit that feed on inspiration (not innately negative) is portrayed as often driving its "victems" to neglect sleep, food, and other necessities in persuit of their art... eventually draining them of their spark of life, and reveling when their creative outlet collapses around them.
So, in general, pretty nasty things - of course, SR doesn't really have alignments, so there is no reason Hecate couldn't be a particularly nice one, but if she's a shadow spirit she probably feeds off of some human emotion (unless you don't buy the power, I guess).
Ta, BlackHat.
Okay I should post a little about my character.
There she is living artillery for the gang.
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There she is living artillery for the gang.
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| Doesn't Materialization just give you immunity to normal weapons? |
Ain't got my book on me, but we aren't creating normal spirits anyway, and it did use the turn of phrase "Instead of" in the creation rules outlined.
If I get it free, it will have to be hardened armour and astral armor then. Me am the tank!
Right, I've decided. I'm going for a Wiccan tradition Spirit of Man. And ta Ophis for your advice- sorry, I missed it before! I've been doing some more reading, and have remembered that Hecate is a goddess of sorcery and can be quite dark at times, so that fits the concept of my Hecate well- look, I even chose a suitable name without 100% intending it!
Edit: Ophis, I've just read Medh's bio- great! I laughed when I saw Tease's name, and I can really see her doing something like that! Medh and Hecate are going to be an interesting combo..... Ooooh! And you've had pretty much the same idea for Medh's gae bolg as I had in mind for 'Cate's staff. Coolio!
Right, I just need to stat Hecate now. I'll get to work on that this evening.
Edit: Ophis, I've just read Medh's bio- great! I laughed when I saw Tease's name, and I can really see her doing something like that!
Medh and Hecate are going to be an interesting combo..... Ooooh! And you've had pretty much the same idea for Medh's gae bolg as I had in mind for 'Cate's staff. Coolio! Right, I just need to stat Hecate now. I'll get to work on that this evening.
How easily will we get karma? Will I get to negotiate on behalf of the gang?
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| How easily will we get karma? Will I get to negotiate on behalf of the gang? |
The magic iBall says outcome uncertain, try again later.
| QUOTE (Ophis @ Sep 21 2006, 11:39 AM) |
| appearence:- At first glance she's a female elf but her height at six foot six is the first give away that Medh isn't normal. Add in the firey eyes(no literally burning) knee length waterfall of deep scarlet hair and the blue swirls of woad that cover her alabastor skin, and most people get the idea that she ain't from round here. She sometimes covers her modesty with a black cloak if she can find one. She likes the look of spike heel thigh boots too. When in combat a firey aura suurounds her and a red hot gae bolg appears in her hand. |
You might want the power "realistic form" or whatever if you want a body that functions, and that looks realistic. I suppose the fiery eyes are a dead givaway anyways, and you could just as easily be a woman literally made of fire - but the realistic form power allows your body to function (breathing, pulse, etc) and, in general, pass for a human form.
If you have no real interest in being mistaken for human, nevermind.
Edit: msitaken for elven, I guess.
I can imagine most of my dude's interactions with normal people. "Do you believe in karma?" "No." "Will you mind selling me some, then?"
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| I can imagine most of my dude's interactions with normal people. "Do you believe in karma?" "No." "Will you mind selling me some, then?" |
The amount of human souls I bought for a penny that way...
The way I figure it if I am wrong I am down less then a pound, if I am right then after I die I got plenty bargaining chips with the guy downstairs.
That, coupled with the fact he'll be raking in the cash with his enchanting, and you have a karma farm right there.
Here's hoping that everyone finds a karma farm.
Here's hoping that everyone finds a karma farm.
| QUOTE (BlackHat) | ||
You might want the power "realistic form" or whatever if you want a body that functions, and that looks realistic. I suppose the fiery eyes are a dead givaway anyways, and you could just as easily be a woman literally made of fire - but the realistic form power allows your body to function (breathing, pulse, etc) and, in general, pass for a human form. If you have no real interest in being mistaken for human, nevermind. Edit: msitaken for elven, I guess. |
Yeah i could have gone for pass as human or gone really firey looking but medh is a fairy type spirit (as wiccans summon sometimes) hence looking somewhat human.
At first I was getting images of Medh as looking like The Firey card from CCS!
We better get a shitload of karma, or nobody but the low-force people will increase in force.
Will we be relying on runs, or our own initiative to get karma?
Will we be relying on runs, or our own initiative to get karma?
Well, I'm hoping to become every troll kid in the barrens's imaginary friend...
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| We better get a shitload of karma, or nobody but the low-force people will increase in force. Will we be relying on runs, or our own initiative to get karma? |
I think its a little of both... and you're wrong about the force thing.
the GM has said that he wants to use the same ruels for character creation as character advancement.. .so high force spirits will be able to fight off Evanescance as easily as low force ones.
Plus, I imagine the game would break down if your force got a lot higher than 6.
But, apparantly, you'll be able to exceed metahuman norms as easily as a force 1 spirit can match your current power.
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