blakkie
Dec 11 2006, 03:50 PM
QUOTE (SCARed @ Dec 11 2006, 09:22 AM) |
so the name itself is somewhat misleading, but in SR (at least from SR2 on, that's were i got in), flechettes were always like little arrows/splinters/shrapnel. so what? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette#Sma...arms_ammunitionBasically the US Army tried developing multiple projectile small arms flechette ammo in
response to personal armour. The issues they ran into were the high cost of production and relatively poor damage. So SR got one out of three right.
Flechette has much better armour penetration than shot from a shotgun. That was the whole point of it, which is why grouping their damage coding together is at the root of this wierdness.
Eben McKay
Dec 11 2006, 04:03 PM
The problem is that the military's "flechette" is SR's "APDS" (ie. a sharp spike/nail that tears through armor but doesn't appreciably increase damage), and SR's "flechette" is the military's "buckshot/birdshot" (a cluster of pain that bounces off armor). Only somehow SR's flechette doesn't spread in flight like buckshot or birdshot does.
Rotbart van Dainig
Dec 11 2006, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (Eben McKay) |
Only somehow SR's flechette doesn't spread in flight like buckshot or birdshot does. |
..that's what the capsule is for.
kzt
Dec 11 2006, 08:12 PM
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) |
..that's what the capsule is for. |
If you encapsulate it you have a slug. And no ability to engage multiple targets.
People tend to overestimate how much buckshot spreads. The cheap one I have at home can keep all the buckshot inside the space of someone's chest at 25 meters.
djinni
Dec 11 2006, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (kzt) |
People tend to overestimate how much buckshot spreads. The cheap one I have at home can keep all the buckshot inside the space of someone's chest at 25 meters. |
25 meters is around 83 feet.
unless you are going to give brand name weapon gauge and manufacturer I'm going to have to disagree.
Rotbart van Dainig
Dec 11 2006, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (kzt) |
If you encapsulate it you have a slug. And no ability to engage multiple targets. |
..sounds like SR flechette for non-shotgun-weapons, does it?
MYST1C
Dec 11 2006, 08:50 PM
QUOTE (Fortune) |
Bummer. Gotta dig up the older fluff versions in Street Samurai Catalog to see if it differs. I seem to recall a description of a plastic disk from which single slivers were sliced each time the weapon was fired. |
Well, this description almost fits the "Malorian Arms Sliver Gun" (which uses a flywheel to rip razor-sharp slivers off a polyceramic block) - but that one isn't an SR gun but from Cyberpunk 2020 (can be found in Chromebook 1 and Blackhand's Street Weapons 2020).
Fortune
Dec 11 2006, 09:43 PM
D'oh!
That's where I saw it! At least I'm not
totally senile yet. Thanks.
kzt
Dec 11 2006, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (djinni) |
25 meters is around 83 feet. unless you are going to give brand name weapon gauge and manufacturer I'm going to have to disagree. |
Mossberg 500 with Federal Tactical Buckshot. It opens up quite a bit from 20 to 25, but at 30 I still have an effective enough pattern that you probably hit someone you were aiming at with one or two.
RunnerPaul
Dec 11 2006, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (M¥$T1C) |
Well, this description almost fits the "Malorian Arms Sliver Gun" (which uses a flywheel to rip razor-sharp slivers off a polyceramic block) |
Also similar in description to the Eldar "shuriken" weapons from Warhammer 40,000, which use a very narrow gravitic pulse to plane a monomolecular slice off of a strong crystal such as diamond and fling it at the target at very high speeds.
-Nyx-
Dec 12 2006, 02:25 PM
And also quite similar to the
Needler weapons from the
Mechwarrior/Classic BattleTech Roleplaying Game(s)...
Or the
Shredder from the (German)
Space Gothic RPG...

Greetings,
Nyx
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