The newest Errata for 4th Edition Shadowrun can be found in a pdf file here.

wow... did rigging via the jumped in method ever get screwed.

I'd say my favorite change in the v1.5 Errata would be the fact that Manafesting characters/spirits are no longer vulnerable to mana-based spells/powers that are cast from the physical plane. That was a sore spot in the targeting rules the one thing that broke the symmetry of being able to fling your mojo at someone if they can fling their mojo at you.

By eliminating being able to hit a Manafester from the physical with a mana effect, the metaphysical models become cleaner, and you avoid all sorts of ugly questions like how to apply the effect of counterspelling. (For those of you who remember late-SR2 era debates about FAB filled whiffle bats and the resulting metaphysical questions, the manifesting problem wasn't that bad, but it was certainly could play in the same league.)



The changes to the stats on the ammo types are interesting, but I haven't sat down to do the math to see how much it'll change the feel of each type yet.



One thing that I was expecting to see, but didn't, was highlighting of the changed text on p.228 where they took the line "Simrigs (both worn and implanted) and cranial commlinks also contain sim modules" from the first printing, and changed it, dropping "and cranial commlinks" from the subsequent printings. Unfortunately, the change only occurred in the print versions, it somehow got missed when they updated the PDF version, and was never called out in the last errata.

When asked for clarification, Adam did say here on Dumpshock that the change was intentional, and would be listed in the next issued errata, but it wasn't. I've already emailed Rob and Adam, asking them what was up with that. Who knows, they may turn around tomorrow and put out a v1.5.1 errata, but that's not really their style.

I'm glad to see one of the suggestions I mentioned implemented. Namely, adding a sane limit on the teamwork tests. Instead of adding arcane rules to agents, this simply and neatly solves the Million-Agent Army problem, plus any similar tricks that might be developed.

Last session in my game my friends and I had a massive round of joking about the low price of the Sea Nymph Shame it got corrected

I have SR4 in PDF from DrivethroughRPG.com. If I download a new copy, will this errata be in it?

No. An announcement will be made when those files are updated, which will coincide with the Fourth Printing, which, now that the errata is finalized, will be in progress very shortly.

ZOMG! They fixed ammo. No wai!

If I understand correctly...

Flechette is +2/+5 (Impact)
Explolosive is +1/+0
ExEx is +1/-1
Gel is +0/+2 (Impact)

That's mind boggling. APDS is really good now, and ExEx is only the best ammo by a small and reasonable margin that's appropriate to its high monetary cost!

"Neither Stun nor Physical damage resulting from drain can be healed by magic."

Well that's going to reduce the posting count on Dumpshock by at least 34%.

I'm glad we can lay that one to rest!

Radius of area effect spells based on Force, not Magic attribute. That's interesting as I never even knew that was going to be an errata. I think that's good.

And the big news - Flechette is fixed!

Can't wait to get my update from DriveThruRPG.

hrmf, with all the changes in this errata ill have to print it out and keep it in the book. its altering some very fundamental parts...

All in all, a very good errata.
The only thing that is missing is TM balancing and Decrytion Thresholds. Apart from that, almost all the big issues have been addressed.

I don't want to try to correct errata, but isn't the third sentence of Flechette Rounds (p. 313) originally: "Flechette rounds raise the DV of weapons by +2."

Also, the old "flechette codes are already included in damage and AP" weapons (Remington Roomsweeper and 990) were already calculated wrong by AP section. So with these corrections I really don't know should they state AP as +2 (not changing), +4 (as in my calculation: -1 + 5 = +4) or +5 (just adding +3 to +2).

It could just be that Remington just makes armor friendlier weapons (as non of the other weapons have flechette codes and standard ammo codes).

Please don't shoot the messenger.

Edit: Shoudn't all these ammunition changes also be made to p. 314? I know it's stupid question, but..

keeping with the holiday spirit too in the FAQ and errata

Opps wrong thread sorry.

Oh I'm so happy. I'm such a freaking geek, but this whole thing makes me so happy.
w00t!

@Deva: All weapons with listed flechette code loose their inherent AP-modifier, so play them as +5 AP. Note that the Ares Slivergun gains damage +3 instead of +2, so it seems to be a conscious decision.

Not a bad errata at all. I think some ref-powers will be used on my part about the training as well, tho, i dont want things to slow down TOO much...perhaps ill make the call to use this method to bring a skill above four.

The ammo is better balanced too....the ExEx now has a power that matches its availability. That was my big issue...APDS wasnt quite as good as ExEx in the old rules, yet had higher availibility. Now its more fitting, and APDS is now also a viable ammo type again.

Fletchettes are still good with these rules but not crazed. Against armored targets they have an issue, against unarmored, they are nasty, which is how i always pictured them.

I think the Gel took a real hit though. But i think it was also needed...the stun damage in the game tends to fill faster due to the Willpower factor, and the +2DV made people dropping unconsious left and right, which took them out of the fight as effectively as killing them. So its a good change, at any rate.

Jumped rigging nerf, tho...hmmm....no sir, i dont think i like it.

Very nicely done.

Thanks for the faq and errata all at once! It'll be nice to be able to post snarky replies to posts which read "Check the faq" and "Check the errata"

And yeah, the ammo changes will (and are) generate some controversy, but I think overall there were more "What were they thinking?!?!" posts regarding ammo than anything else about them.

I like how some of my houserules made it into the errata lol

That's because they've been monitoring your games and taking notes.

Well it's about time they noticed the genius of my GMing style

Not bad. I still like the double Impact Armor house rule against Flechette (instead of the +2 AP) better, though.

Bye
Thanee

flechette is also good if you take aim to bypass armor

I believe the point was that if you can drop their armor to 0 they won't get the +5 armor from the ammunition. That's a GM call though, unless the FAQ is clear on it.