How can you use fake licenses? Is there a license for "carrying a gun and using it"?
Cybereyes come with "20/20" Vision. Wtf is 20/20 Vision? English ain't my native language, so maybe it is a common expression, but i don't get it.
There have been more questions on my mind, but i forgot them, well, i'll be posting them as soon as i remember.
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They just list the cost for a fake license they don't say what it has to be for,
Conceal and Carry would be one,
Spellcasting would be another
License to own hacking programs
License for a smartlink. Etc
Private Detective License.
They are all different licenses, the book justs lists one cost and Avail rather then have pages and pages of various license's.
If you want a rating six conceal and carry permit for your Aries Predator that will be 600:nuyen:
You also want to pick up a fake license for the smartlink, That will be another 600
So for every Restricted thing or set of things it has a license.
20/20 is a measure of visual acuity, When there talking about cybereyes they mean it sees as well as normal healthy human eyes as 20/20 is seen as "normal" or perfect vision. I won't go into the reality of that here and now. But all it means is you won't need to wear glasses over your cybereyes
Conceal and Carry would be one,
Spellcasting would be another
License to own hacking programs
License for a smartlink. Etc
Private Detective License.
They are all different licenses, the book justs lists one cost and Avail rather then have pages and pages of various license's.
If you want a rating six conceal and carry permit for your Aries Predator that will be 600:nuyen:
You also want to pick up a fake license for the smartlink, That will be another 600
So for every Restricted thing or set of things it has a license.
20/20 is a measure of visual acuity, When there talking about cybereyes they mean it sees as well as normal healthy human eyes as 20/20 is seen as "normal" or perfect vision. I won't go into the reality of that here and now. But all it means is you won't need to wear glasses over your cybereyes
20/20 is a means of measuring visual acuity. That is, how well you can see. Anything less than 20/20 may require visual correction of some sort (glasses, contacts etc.)
Basically it means that your cyber eyes don't require visual correction.
Fake licences are for whatever your GM lets you buy them for. Most of my players like to buy fake concealed firearms licenses, and sometimes stuff like bounty hunting licenses.
What licenses you can get depend on your location and that is up to your GM. It is unlikely that you will be able to get a license for 'using' a gun, as discharging a weapon, especially into someone, tends to be regarded as a crime.
Basically it means that your cyber eyes don't require visual correction.
Fake licences are for whatever your GM lets you buy them for. Most of my players like to buy fake concealed firearms licenses, and sometimes stuff like bounty hunting licenses.
What licenses you can get depend on your location and that is up to your GM. It is unlikely that you will be able to get a license for 'using' a gun, as discharging a weapon, especially into someone, tends to be regarded as a crime.
And another question: Don't u think, that the stunball and the stunbolt is overpowered? In most cases it does not matter if u kill your enemy or just stun him AND it is often easier to stun AND killing could result in a angry con that seeks revenge, because you killed their employees.
So i would give stunball and stunbolt the same DV as Manaball and Manabolt.
Did i forgot something?
AND: Skinlinks: Can you add a skinlink to every cyberware? Or can you use Skinlink only with some elecronics like Commlink? Skinlinks are not expensive, so i would always use a skinlink with every piece of cw i posess, because it prevents a hacker completly from hacking my cw, am i right ? the only weak spot would be the commlink, which would be the hub of my cw, but do i have to link it to the commlink? and: if i do so, i could skinlink my commlink to myself and disable its wireless ability, i could not get informations from outside, but i could get informations about my cw. with a second comlink, which is "online" i could get informations from outside without endangering my cw.....right or wrong?
So i would give stunball and stunbolt the same DV as Manaball and Manabolt.
Did i forgot something?
AND: Skinlinks: Can you add a skinlink to every cyberware? Or can you use Skinlink only with some elecronics like Commlink? Skinlinks are not expensive, so i would always use a skinlink with every piece of cw i posess, because it prevents a hacker completly from hacking my cw, am i right ? the only weak spot would be the commlink, which would be the hub of my cw, but do i have to link it to the commlink? and: if i do so, i could skinlink my commlink to myself and disable its wireless ability, i could not get informations from outside, but i could get informations about my cw. with a second comlink, which is "online" i could get informations from outside without endangering my cw.....right or wrong?
20/20 means that, at a distance of 20 feet, you can read letters that a person with "perfect vision" can read at 20 feet. 20/100 means that at 20 feet, the letters have to be large enough that a person with "perfect vision" can read them at 100 feet. Alternatively, 20/10 means that at 20 feet, you can read letters so small that a person with "perfect vision" must be no more than 10 feet away to read.
@ Kazum. You're entirely welcome to institute any house rules you like. Personally I'd just leave the spells the way they are. It's easier to recover from stun damage after all, and a pokey stim patch can negate a great deal of stun damage temporarily.
Typically I think skinlink is meant to work on devices, rather than 'ware. typically runners route all their 'ware and equipment through their commlink, as it is harder to hack a comm than stand alone 'ware. There have been a lot of threads about 'defeating' hacking involving a second comm.
Personally, I feel that you lose more functionality (due to lack of communications with team mates) that way than you do by just using one comm and risking a hacking attempt.
Typically I think skinlink is meant to work on devices, rather than 'ware. typically runners route all their 'ware and equipment through their commlink, as it is harder to hack a comm than stand alone 'ware. There have been a lot of threads about 'defeating' hacking involving a second comm.
Personally, I feel that you lose more functionality (due to lack of communications with team mates) that way than you do by just using one comm and risking a hacking attempt.
Aside from the fact that players are fond of dealing not only the most, but the most dangerous sort of damage available, if both choices were equal Stunbold would quickly take second place. It's also ineffective on things like foci and barriers, leaves behind people who can be witnesses or come after you later, and since most team members are likely to be doing physical damage, the separate damage tracks mean you won't be helping take the enemies down any faster. Keep all these in mind when you evaluate the drain codes.
Skinlinking cyberware would be totally unnecessary in most games, as cyberware is already wired into your body and is by nature no more hackable than your meat arm. You can decide that certain pieces of cyberware are connected to the outside world (and indeed, things like an implanted commlink would be useless without a connection), but that can be done on a case-by-case basis. (If you have a commlink in your cyberarm, you can leave the commlink in touch with the outside world without risking your control over your limbs, for example.) Rather, skinlinking is kind of like running a wire between any pieces of gear that are linked and touching your body. This means you can set them to only obey the skinlink and be unhackable, but you lose functionality as it can't communicate with any of your friend's devices. The only reason to have a piece of cyberware skinlinked would be if you had an external device you wanted to talk to your cyberware, but you didn't want one or both of them to talk to the outside world. It could allow you to, for instance, load a file from your cybereye to physical memory held in your hand or vice versa without leaving your commlink on, but most of the time if you want devices to speak to each other they'll either all be in contact with each other already, or else you'll want to share the data with teammates which requires being in touch with the outside world, and as such at risk of hacking.
Skinlinking cyberware would be totally unnecessary in most games, as cyberware is already wired into your body and is by nature no more hackable than your meat arm. You can decide that certain pieces of cyberware are connected to the outside world (and indeed, things like an implanted commlink would be useless without a connection), but that can be done on a case-by-case basis. (If you have a commlink in your cyberarm, you can leave the commlink in touch with the outside world without risking your control over your limbs, for example.) Rather, skinlinking is kind of like running a wire between any pieces of gear that are linked and touching your body. This means you can set them to only obey the skinlink and be unhackable, but you lose functionality as it can't communicate with any of your friend's devices. The only reason to have a piece of cyberware skinlinked would be if you had an external device you wanted to talk to your cyberware, but you didn't want one or both of them to talk to the outside world. It could allow you to, for instance, load a file from your cybereye to physical memory held in your hand or vice versa without leaving your commlink on, but most of the time if you want devices to speak to each other they'll either all be in contact with each other already, or else you'll want to share the data with teammates which requires being in touch with the outside world, and as such at risk of hacking.
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| @ Kazum. You're entirely welcome to institute any house rules you like. Personally I'd just leave the spells the way they are. It's easier to recover from stun damage after all, and a pokey stim patch can negate a great deal of stun damage temporarily. |
Actually Stim Patches only let you ignore the damage mods from stun damage, they don't negate the damage at all. It's a subtle difference, but a very important one, and it's different than some of the older editions.
And Skinlinks can be put on anything that would normally be wireless, at the simpliest form.
You can set your ware not to broadcast without needing a skinlink - it's already wired in to you.
Seems I wasn't entirely clear. I know that stim patches don't heal stun, which is why I said negate temporarily. I meant that the -ve effects, ie. the dice pool modifier, goes away for a while. Obviously if you still take enough damage to knock you out then you still fall over.
Likewise I think you're entirely right about skinlinking 'ware. It's moot as, like you say, it's already wired to you. Maybe I should just let you post for me, as we seem to have a fairly similar outlook on things
Likewise I think you're entirely right about skinlinking 'ware. It's moot as, like you say, it's already wired to you. Maybe I should just let you post for me, as we seem to have a fairly similar outlook on things
I wonder if you can set a sticky shock to the frequency of a skinlink. Fry them from a distance.
Personally I always hated them, they creep me out. I always think about what that skinlink would be doing to your bioelectric field. Would it mess you up?
I had an amusing idea for a team of thieves. Have a thug with skinlink attached to a commlink. He goes and "Mugs" people by grabbing them. His hacker friend goes through the connection and hacks their commlinks. The thug just has to go an grab a person for a few seconds and move on. He could make it look like an accident or be mean about it. He could bump his way through a crowd that way and be wealthy on the other side.
Personally I always hated them, they creep me out. I always think about what that skinlink would be doing to your bioelectric field. Would it mess you up?
I had an amusing idea for a team of thieves. Have a thug with skinlink attached to a commlink. He goes and "Mugs" people by grabbing them. His hacker friend goes through the connection and hacks their commlinks. The thug just has to go an grab a person for a few seconds and move on. He could make it look like an accident or be mean about it. He could bump his way through a crowd that way and be wealthy on the other side.
Another question:
Smartlink: I was on a Con last Weekend, and they played the Smartgun as if there was a camera inside of the weapon, so that you would get kind of a picture to your eyes. This also means, that you could aim your gun around a corner, without seeing what is there, but the gun would see it and you would get the picture to your head. You could normaly fire, but get an "indirect fire" penalty.
I don't like it and i always understood the smartgun another way: I always thought, that you get kind of a crosshair projectet into your LOS, which shows you, where u are pointing that gun at. Thus would mean, when you are pointin your gun somewhere out of your LOS, you would not see a crosshair.
what is your opinion about it?
Smartlink: I was on a Con last Weekend, and they played the Smartgun as if there was a camera inside of the weapon, so that you would get kind of a picture to your eyes. This also means, that you could aim your gun around a corner, without seeing what is there, but the gun would see it and you would get the picture to your head. You could normaly fire, but get an "indirect fire" penalty.
I don't like it and i always understood the smartgun another way: I always thought, that you get kind of a crosshair projectet into your LOS, which shows you, where u are pointing that gun at. Thus would mean, when you are pointin your gun somewhere out of your LOS, you would not see a crosshair.
what is your opinion about it?
Both are correct in 4th edition. The smartlink puts a crosshair in your field of vision and guncameras are standard on smartlinked weapons, allowing one to use indirect fire.
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| Another question: Smartlink: I was on a Con last Weekend, and they played the Smartgun as if there was a camera inside of the weapon, so that you would get kind of a picture to your eyes. This also means, that you could aim your gun around a corner, without seeing what is there, but the gun would see it and you would get the picture to your head. You could normaly fire, but get an "indirect fire" penalty. I don't like it and i always understood the smartgun another way: I always thought, that you get kind of a crosshair projectet into your LOS, which shows you, where u are pointing that gun at. Thus would mean, when you are pointin your gun somewhere out of your LOS, you would not see a crosshair. what is your opinion about it? |
I'm pretty sure you CAN do what they did, and there would still be a "crosshair". Remember that the Smartlink requires an Image Link, which is basically a camera that enables you to see the "feed" in your head, your lenses, goggles, etc.
Page 312 RB: Smartgun System:
"The camera allows for shooting around corners, without exposing yourself to return fire"
Looks pretty clear to me.
It doesen't say anything about an indirect fire penalty, after all you can see the targets and fire directly from your weapon to the enemies in a straight line (as opposed to shooting up in the air over something with a grenade launcher).
Besides, -6 blind fire is a bit harsh when you actually can see the target through the camera and aim accurately with the crosshair. I might use the -1 for Firing from Cover penalty, or simply double all uncompensated recoil since you're not bracing the weapon good enough.
By RAW though, I don't think there would be penalties at all. The cover penalty assumes that you have to duck out from cover and back again while firing, but you don't have to do that if you use the camera to fire.
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| I wonder if you can set a sticky shock to the frequency of a skinlink. Fry them from a distance. |
stick-n-shock affects the person's gear that you hit already. most likely it will short them out for a few combat turns. which should be long enough, for combat purposes at least, that anything beyond that doesn't really matter.
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| By RAW though, I don't think there would be penalties at all. |
This was a pretty major debate round here. No consensus was really reached, though a number of us (by no means all of us) concluded that there would still be a penalty simply because it requires holding the gun in an awkward way. No one suggested using the blind fire penalty, but -2 or -3 were the common suggestions. I like -2, personally. Others went further, increasing recoil penalties, but I personally don't care for that. It's enough that firing this way negates certain recoil compensators (stocks and shock pads, specifically), since you can't shoulder the gun.
Anyway, the rules are indeed unclear about this, but it is perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for the GM to lay down some kind of penalty for performing the action under less than optimal conditions. Picking a lock while hanging upside down from a rope would get a penalty in my game. So would firing a gun in a weird position (and aiming around corners is definitely a weird position).
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This was a pretty major debate round here. No consensus was really reached, though a number of us (by no means all of us) concluded that there would still be a penalty simply because it requires holding the gun in an awkward way. No one suggested using the blind fire penalty, but -2 or -3 were the common suggestions. I like -2, personally. Others went further, increasing recoil penalties, but I personally don't care for that. It's enough that firing this way negates certain recoil compensators (stocks and shock pads, specifically), since you can't shoulder the gun. Anyway, the rules are indeed unclear about this, but it is perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for the GM to lay down some kind of penalty for performing the action under less than optimal conditions. Picking a lock while hanging upside down from a rope would get a penalty in my game. So would firing a gun in a weird position (and aiming around corners is definitely a weird position). |
good point. -2 seems an alright ad hoc penalty. However, this rule, while an OK temporary fix, does not take into account the difference between firing handweapons and shouldered weapons. Firing a pistol 'round the corner is alot easier than firing an Ak97 full auto around the corner.
This is why I think double recoil penalties is appropriate (in addition to negating stock and shock pad RC). Just as easy to remember as the -2 as well, right?
And firing a pistol semi-auto this way would mean that the second shot would recieve a -2 penalty anyway (unless compensated), while an AK97 long burst would give a -12 penalty (thus only covering fire or short bursts/SA would be effective). A White Knight firing a long burst wouldn't be a problem at all, as the recoil would be NIL.
Of course, if you fire in such a way as to have to use your off-hand on the trigger (like firing a MG to your right 'round a corner), the normal penalty would apply (-2 I think).
But each to his own I guess.
Oh, and picking that lock MI style would recieve a penalty not for it being unusual or awkward, but because you're less stable.
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good point. -2 seems an alright ad hoc penalty. However, this rule, while an OK temporary fix, does not take into account the difference between firing handweapons and shouldered weapons. Firing a pistol 'round the corner is alot easier than firing an Ak97 full auto around the corner. This is why I think double recoil penalties is appropriate (in addition to negating stock and shock pad RC). Just as easy to remember as the -2 as well, right? And firing a pistol semi-auto this way would mean that the second shot would recieve a -2 penalty anyway (unless compensated), while an AK97 long burst would give a -12 penalty (thus only covering fire or short bursts/SA would be effective). A White Knight firing a long burst wouldn't be a problem at all, as the recoil would be NIL. Of course, if you fire in such a way as to have to use your off-hand on the trigger (like firing a MG to your right 'round a corner), the normal penalty would apply (-2 I think). But each to his own I guess. Oh, and picking that lock MI style would recieve a penalty not for it being unusual or awkward, but because you're less stable. |
I don't know about doubling the penalty like that. I mean look at it this way, if you are removing the bonus for the stock and the shock pad, those are the bonuses you get for firing the weapon correctly. If you fired it from the hip, or holding it away from your body, either way it would be an awkward position. Increasing the penalty beyond that I see as a bit unnecessary because 1- The penalties stack up pretty fast and get pretty nasty already and 2- It would essentially negate any reason for the option to exist. I mean really, what is the point of a mechanic allowing you to fire around a corner but not roll enough dice to have a chance at hitting anything.
Anyhow, I like the -2, and I'd probably describe the situation to the player and ask them how they are holding the gun, and give additional penalties for firing with their off hand, etc.
okay, this with the camera might be according to RAW, but i don't really like it.
And i would double the recoil mod or at least increase it, because you don't use your whole body to compensate the recoil. only your wrist is not enough. Try it out: Push someones wrist which he holds like he is shooting around a corner with a pistol. you could easily turn him around/ move his arm, or at least, easier as if he would hold it the real way you hold a gun: in front of your body.
EDIT:
Today was the first session of our groupe, and we played the first part of "on the run" and there is this ork-grunt guarding the dressing room of the ork-rocker. The team had a hard time to deal with him, or find a way to do it quietly. One idea was to Stun him some way and to put an invisible spell on him. I wondered: Is this possible? Can you: 1. Make someone invisible, who does not want to; 2. Make someone invisible who is unconcious 3. Make objects invisible, that don't touch you/ someone else youe made invisible ?
And i would double the recoil mod or at least increase it, because you don't use your whole body to compensate the recoil. only your wrist is not enough. Try it out: Push someones wrist which he holds like he is shooting around a corner with a pistol. you could easily turn him around/ move his arm, or at least, easier as if he would hold it the real way you hold a gun: in front of your body.
EDIT:
Today was the first session of our groupe, and we played the first part of "on the run" and there is this ork-grunt guarding the dressing room of the ork-rocker. The team had a hard time to deal with him, or find a way to do it quietly. One idea was to Stun him some way and to put an invisible spell on him. I wondered: Is this possible? Can you: 1. Make someone invisible, who does not want to; 2. Make someone invisible who is unconcious 3. Make objects invisible, that don't touch you/ someone else youe made invisible ?
AFAIK, you can make unwilling people, and objects invisible. Unwilling people get a willpower test to resist the spell, objects have the object resistance threshold.
I would just give them the -1 Firing from Cover modifier if it was the first SA shot or first Burst in the round. For the second SA shot, the Firing from Cover modifier would also stack onto the second SA shot in a round unless the gun had proper recoil comp. For the second Burst, any uncomped recoil would stack on top of the Firing from Cover modifier. For full auto fire I would give the Firing from Cover modifier, add a -1 modifier and double any uncomped recoil. Also, recoil comp from shock pads wouldn't apply, only Gas-Vent Systems would.
Another Thing occured to me concerning (Combat)Spells:
Well, the basic Damage is always the Force you use with the spell... So regardless of which kind of spell you think, you will only make (Force+Nethits)Damage.
So the only difference between different combatspells are the DrainValue, Type, Range, Kind of Damage.
So you can NEVER increase the Damage of a Combatspell beyond double-magicattribute+ Net Hits. Right? Why aren't there any spells with ("Force+2"+Nethits)Damage (or +/-Whatever) ?
Well, the basic Damage is always the Force you use with the spell... So regardless of which kind of spell you think, you will only make (Force+Nethits)Damage.
So the only difference between different combatspells are the DrainValue, Type, Range, Kind of Damage.
So you can NEVER increase the Damage of a Combatspell beyond double-magicattribute+ Net Hits. Right? Why aren't there any spells with ("Force+2"+Nethits)Damage (or +/-Whatever) ?
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| Another Thing occured to me concerning (Combat)Spells: Well, the basic Damage is always the Force you use with the spell... So regardless of which kind of spell you think, you will only make (Force+Nethits)Damage. So the only difference between different combatspells are the DrainValue, Type, Range, Kind of Damage. So you can NEVER increase the Damage of a Combatspell beyond double-magicattribute+ Net Hits. Right? Why aren't there any spells with ("Force+2"+Nethits)Damage (or +/-Whatever) ? |
I dunno, perhaps they wanted to balance them? How many weapons are there with damage code higher than 12? And spellcasters who initative can even raise that further...
yeah, okay, might be right. just thought, that it is a little boring that they all have the same damage-code and only the skill of the caster makes the difference....
What would you rather be the limiting factor on magic, if not the skill of the caster?
you've got a point there... 
Another Question:
Commlinks: How do they project the AR on your eye ? Do you need Visual Enhancements, like Contactlenses or Goggles?
Commlinks: How do they project the AR on your eye ? Do you need Visual Enhancements, like Contactlenses or Goggles?
You need something with image link, which could be glasses, contacts, goggles, cybereyes, etc. Or you need a method of direct neural interface, like a datajack or trodes.
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| Another Question: Commlinks: How do they project the AR on your eye ? Do you need Visual Enhancements, like Contactlenses or Goggles? |
They specifically come with dataglasses. Look at the picture. Although, oddly, they're not just glasses: You actually need to walk around carrying a little box which holds the computer hardware.
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| Though variations exist according to different models, the standard commlink contains most of the following features: music player, micro-trid/holo projector/“touch-screen” display, camcorder, microphone, image/text scanner, RFID tag reader, GPS (global positioning system, triangulated from registered local wireless nodes), roll-up Velcro-fastening keyboard, chip player, credstick reader, retractable earbuds, voice-access controls, and a shock and water-resistant case. |
By default the come with 'holo projector' touch screen (think 2070 verision of the laser keyboard now, that project a keyboard on any flat surface that you can then type on). (or any good sci-fi movie).
Display Link is certainly a good option with a cheap pair of glasses, or if you have a Sim module and a DNI (to include an internal commlink), then you could display them just 'in your vision'.
Otherwise RAW it is the 'touch projector screeen' or someother device to which it is subscribed that has a display link.
I know its obvious but if looking for a more damaging spell use a Direct combat spell so it bypasses armor or a <Elemental> combat spell so it hits invisible targets. Lastly, multiple spells can be cast at once so multiple Stun Ball spells can put some serious damage out there.
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| They specifically come with dataglasses. Look at the picture. Although, oddly, they're not just glasses: You actually need to walk around carrying a little box which holds the computer hardware. |
That's not really that odd. Consider Bluetooth phone earpieces. One actual communication device (the phone) one display device (the earpiece). Change phones and you can keep the same earpiece, or vice versa, and in theory the earpiece (or glasses, or whatever) can be the display unit for more than one source device at a time.
Well another Rule Question:
Physical Barrieres (Spell)
How EXACTLY is it working?
Is the Powerniveau / Damage Value of a weapon of interest if you shoot at a magical barriere? Does only the amount of projectiles shot during one combat turn count?
E,g., my Barrier has a barrier-rating of 3: Does it protect for 3 Bullets /Rockets /Nukes;) in one Turn, no matter how high their DV is? Can a bullet penetrate a barriere without letting it collapse? (Normal Barriers can be shot through, like wooden doors for the purpose of hitting a target behind it, right? Can i do so with magical barriers, too ?)
Physical Barrieres (Spell)
How EXACTLY is it working?
Is the Powerniveau / Damage Value of a weapon of interest if you shoot at a magical barriere? Does only the amount of projectiles shot during one combat turn count?
E,g., my Barrier has a barrier-rating of 3: Does it protect for 3 Bullets /Rockets /Nukes;) in one Turn, no matter how high their DV is? Can a bullet penetrate a barriere without letting it collapse? (Normal Barriers can be shot through, like wooden doors for the purpose of hitting a target behind it, right? Can i do so with magical barriers, too ?)
Like a wall. Read "Barriers" on BBB p157.
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| yeah, okay, might be right. just thought, that it is a little boring that they all have the same damage-code and only the skill of the caster makes the difference.... |
Remember that mages also have two other options when casting a spell: overcasting, and spending Edge.
And another one:
Drones/Riggers/Signals: Where is written down, what the signal strength of a drone is?
I suppose the Signal of the Rigger is his Commlink-Signal, but a Drone has to respond to his commands or be able to send Status-Reports back to the Rigger, so the Signalstrength of the drone can be really important. But i don't find them in the statistics.
Same with things like "do fly-spy-drones have nightvision-functions in their camera [...]
And:
There are NO RULES regarding modding/repairing your drones/vehicles as a rigger.
do i have to wait for the rigger-sourcebook?
Drones/Riggers/Signals: Where is written down, what the signal strength of a drone is?
I suppose the Signal of the Rigger is his Commlink-Signal, but a Drone has to respond to his commands or be able to send Status-Reports back to the Rigger, so the Signalstrength of the drone can be really important. But i don't find them in the statistics.
Same with things like "do fly-spy-drones have nightvision-functions in their camera [...]
And:
There are NO RULES regarding modding/repairing your drones/vehicles as a rigger.
do i have to wait for the rigger-sourcebook?
oh and just out of interest;) : why is the SR-Logo a Skull of a goat (or whatsoever) =
Because skulls are fuckin' METAL. 
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| And another one: Drones/Riggers/Signals: Where is written down, what the signal strength of a drone is? I suppose the Signal of the Rigger is his Commlink-Signal, but a Drone has to respond to his commands or be able to send Status-Reports back to the Rigger, so the Signalstrength of the drone can be really important. But i don't find them in the statistics. Same with things like "do fly-spy-drones have nightvision-functions in their camera [...] And: There are NO RULES regarding modding/repairing your drones/vehicles as a rigger. do i have to wait for the rigger-sourcebook? |
There's a common object ratings table somewhere. Drones will be signal 3 unless they are security rated, in which case they are 4
Thanks
Another Set of Questions:
1. Recoil and Vehicles: When i mount a LMG on a Van or a Doberman, does that give any extra recoil compensation? I figure, that there can't be a lot of recoil, when the LMG/HMG is installed on a turret of a van....
2. The "Slime-Spell": There is written, that you can turn someone into slime... can he be turned back to a (Meta-)human? And when the CW won't change: Will it still be at the right place, if not taken from the slime, after transforming the victim back?
3. Called Shots (Headshots): Well what about Headshots? I can't really find a good solution in the called shots sections.
Another Set of Questions:
1. Recoil and Vehicles: When i mount a LMG on a Van or a Doberman, does that give any extra recoil compensation? I figure, that there can't be a lot of recoil, when the LMG/HMG is installed on a turret of a van....
2. The "Slime-Spell": There is written, that you can turn someone into slime... can he be turned back to a (Meta-)human? And when the CW won't change: Will it still be at the right place, if not taken from the slime, after transforming the victim back?
3. Called Shots (Headshots): Well what about Headshots? I can't really find a good solution in the called shots sections.
3. There are no headshots in terms of game mechanics. Only shots that do more damage or bypass armor that in-character is a headshot.
Well, thanks, but can't anyone help me with 1. and 2. ?
You are just better off forgetting about Turn to Goo, because RAW makes a special point of saying that cyberware paid for with Essence is treated as a part of the body far as magic is concerned, but yet this spell somehow manages to get arround that little fact of magical theory without nary a whisper. (The spell's singlar achievement of ignoring the fact that Cyberware is paid for with Essense and thus becomes part of the target's pattern should either be House Ruled out of existance or be the subject of instense study in every Magical R&D lab in the world.)
But yes, Turn to Goo is a sustained spell so the moment the mage drops the spell the target goes back to normal, minus any damage taken while 'goo' of course.
But yes, Turn to Goo is a sustained spell so the moment the mage drops the spell the target goes back to normal, minus any damage taken while 'goo' of course.
I am new to Shadowrun, and I've been pondering a few things about some gears.
Thankfully, the licenses have been addressed. I was planning on buying 92 licenses total for my 4 fake SINs, and I'm hoping that my GM will go along the thinking of grouping stuff together for licenses.
Regarding Datajacks, do you buy each one seperately, paying Essence each time if you want another port or does it come with a set of ports? I'd like to keep my Comlink, Goggles, and one extra port open for surveliance/cyberware maintenence. On a smaller note, is there a certain cost for Fiberoptic cable?
I'm used to the whole deck system somewhat (From reading a certain book) but I am a bit lost on the whole simrig/sim deck/comlink connection. My character is supposed to be a hacker/rigger, and I know that you need a SimRig to rig up drones, but is that a whole body type deal or an expansion to your commlink?
I was looking into skinlinks. Say for example if someone steals a skinlinked gun from you, could you have the gun default back to wireless so you could attempt to hack it and stop it from firing?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge.
Thankfully, the licenses have been addressed. I was planning on buying 92 licenses total for my 4 fake SINs, and I'm hoping that my GM will go along the thinking of grouping stuff together for licenses.
Regarding Datajacks, do you buy each one seperately, paying Essence each time if you want another port or does it come with a set of ports? I'd like to keep my Comlink, Goggles, and one extra port open for surveliance/cyberware maintenence. On a smaller note, is there a certain cost for Fiberoptic cable?
I'm used to the whole deck system somewhat (From reading a certain book) but I am a bit lost on the whole simrig/sim deck/comlink connection. My character is supposed to be a hacker/rigger, and I know that you need a SimRig to rig up drones, but is that a whole body type deal or an expansion to your commlink?
I was looking into skinlinks. Say for example if someone steals a skinlinked gun from you, could you have the gun default back to wireless so you could attempt to hack it and stop it from firing?
I apologize for my lack of knowledge.
Also, would doubling the price of a Doberman drone be a sufficent cost to have the technology shrunk down to fit into a drone the size of a cat? I was looking for middleground between the Doberman and the Crawller drone, something that could still have a light weapon mount but still wrap around my neck.
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| Also, would doubling the price of a Doberman drone be a sufficent cost to have the technology shrunk down to fit into a drone the size of a cat? I was looking for middleground between the Doberman and the Crawller drone, something that could still have a light weapon mount but still wrap around my neck. |
Weapon Mounts require a Body on the drone of 3 which means something too large for a cybered war-troll's neck.
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Weapon Mounts require a Body on the drone of 3 which means something too large for a cybered war-troll's neck. |
Yep. But a GM might let you put a narcojet in there, hold out pistol with stick and shock, or somesuch. Wouldn't exactly be a weapons platform, but would be good when there were a burglar in your house.
I wouldn't double the cost for it, by the way. I'd probably reduce it. Such drone undoubtedly exist in SR2070.
House rules are the exception, but then again I'm partial to RAW when I run and when I play.
| QUOTE (Wasabi) |
| House rules are the exception, but then again I'm partial to RAW when I run and when I play. |
Oh, come on! There's a big difference between a light machine gun and a hold out pistol or a dart launcher. It's silly to say that a doberman drone can carry an LMG but that something a bit smaller can't carry anything.
And I hope that Arsenal will carry some cannon examples.
| QUOTE (Syonyde @ May 4 2007, 07:28 PM) |
| Also, would doubling the price of a Doberman drone be a sufficent cost to have the technology shrunk down to fit into a drone the size of a cat? I was looking for middleground between the Doberman and the Crawller drone, something that could still have a light weapon mount but still wrap around my neck. |
I don't think a doberman is really the appropriate analog for what you're trying to rig together. What I think you're really looking for is a modified Smart Firing platform, since I think it'd be fair to say that much of the way standard drones aim is by properly oriention itself and moving around to create firing lanes, something they could never do while strapped to your back or neck. Whereas a smart firing platform aims by operating with in a fixed 180 degree arc. Still, I don't really think there's a way to make either idea really practical. Dobermans are already street legal and affordable as it is, and I doubt you'll ever manage to make having a weapons platform strapped onto your character discreet or practical enough to really be noteworthy. It's not that I really think that it can't be done, I just doubt it'd be worth doing, once you consider the alternatives available.
Anyway, yeah... I do hope there will be some small dart and toxin loaded drones available in arsenal though. Nothing so fancy and undetectable enough to necessarily be overpowered, just something like a relatively large minidrone loaded up with enough narcoject to put a horse into a coma. Would be real fun for wetwork. And I think it'd definitely be possible to have even microdrones loaded up with particularly nasty toxins, although I think a wise GM would probably be better served limiting truly tiny but deadly drones to scary NPC groups like Chimera.
knasser, my fave thing in SR3 was small drones with viper sliverguns but SR4, while a bit more artificial with its ruleset, is more balanced and good balance reduces twink.
Is it legal by RAW to put a reduced size of dispensor of foam explosive 15 on a Flyspy?
It'd make sense but not necessarily be balanced. YMMV.
Is it legal by RAW to put a reduced size of dispensor of foam explosive 15 on a Flyspy?
It'd make sense but not necessarily be balanced. YMMV.
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