Critias
Feb 11 2008, 09:37 AM
Well, I'm more thinking "+1 damage with edged weapons" and such.
DTFarstar
Feb 11 2008, 10:15 PM
Dikote was not revived in Arsenal.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 11 2008, 11:24 PM
Ah, but Fisty already allowed it in this game.

I think Critias was referring to the Martial Arts bonus stuff, but maybe not.
DTFarstar
Feb 11 2008, 11:56 PM
Wait Dikote is allowed? Why was I not informed? Actually, wouldn't have mattered if I was, I've got no idea what it does or how much it costs, but that is entirely beside the point!
Chris
Fortune
Feb 12 2008, 03:55 AM
I don't recall the cost, or exactly what the states are (I think +1DV/-1AP) but I'm not sure. I didn't bother using it on anything except the plates in Claymore's hardliner gloves. No AP bonus though.
DTFarstar
Feb 12 2008, 04:13 AM
I am working on gear right now, since I just got the PDF it is slowing down, but I'm pretty sure I've got everything but my vehicles already. Finished my Cyber/Bio load out earlier. Turns out I decided not to be an adept because well... it wasn't really feasible. Still a mechanic from hell though. I'll post a more renewed background soon.
Chris
DTFarstar
Feb 12 2008, 04:30 AM
Anyone know how Fist handles nanite degradation due to damage? I would really like some Neocortical Neural Amplifiers, but if I have to replace them every time I get shot in the leg, they are not even remotely worth it.
DTFarstar
Feb 12 2008, 04:32 AM
By the way, if any of you have played Mass Effect, I should never have started referring to Fisty as just Fist. Now every time I say it I think of that krogan bar owner from the game.
Chris
Critias
Feb 12 2008, 06:31 AM
QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 11 2008, 06:24 PM)

I think Critias was referring to the Martial Arts bonus stuff, but maybe not.
You are correct. Tain's all
about being good with a blade.
DTFarstar
Feb 12 2008, 07:15 AM
If I was trying to make a relatively detailed layout of a multiple story warehouse, what program would you guys suggest I use? I need to send it to Fisty. I'm going ahead and making the layout for Farhaven- my base of operations/mechanics shop/chemical shop/medical shop/home and I need a good program to draw it with.
Chris
DTFarstar
Feb 13 2008, 02:40 AM
Man, I am entirely too addicted to this thread and game, I've checked this place some like 12 times since I posted and I actually want and looked to see how long it had been since Fist had logged in to see if I could predict his arrival.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 13 2008, 04:27 AM
Bah! Fisty is slack!
DTFarstar
Feb 13 2008, 06:16 AM
He is weak I say! WEAK!
Chris
Critias
Feb 13 2008, 06:31 AM
While I agree Fisty could get his tookus in gear, we could use a post from Callidus, too.
Fortune
Feb 13 2008, 10:15 AM
Bah! Callidus is
slack!
DTFarstar
Feb 13 2008, 02:31 PM
He is weak, I say! WEAK!
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 13 2008, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Feb 12 2008, 12:30 AM)

Anyone know how Fist handles nanite degradation due to damage? I would really like some Neocortical Neural Amplifiers, but if I have to replace them every time I get shot in the leg, they are not even remotely worth it.
I'll scan over
Augmentation again later today and get back to you on that. Been a bit since I've read up on it.
QUOTE (Fortune @ Feb 13 2008, 12:27 AM)

Bah! Fisty is slack!
Fisty has been
sick. Had a fever of 102 last couple of days. On my days
off no less. I've still got a bunch of errands to catch up on this morning, including taking care of some tax stuff, but I should have time and freedom to get some posts up and reading done later today. I work from Wednesday-Saturday this week again, so my posts will likely peter off a bit at the end of the week. Thanks for your patie... wait.. you
weren't patient. Screw you guys!
Fortune
Feb 13 2008, 05:05 PM
Day off or not, being sick just means you have a built-in excuse to get out of doing everything else and post on Dumpshock. Anything less is just
slack!
Callidus
Feb 13 2008, 09:02 PM
Sorry Callidus being bad.... slack and weak *8-> post up inna sec
DTFarstar
Feb 13 2008, 11:38 PM
I agree with Fortune, also, turns out I was more right than I knew, because with a fever of 102, I am sure you were feeling quite weak.
Also, I know I have been doing too much science lately because when I first saw that I thought degrees C and was like "Bullshit you did!" then realized we were talking F here.
Chris
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 14 2008, 08:21 PM
Ugh. May have announced 'recovery' too soon. I've had a massive head ache along with anything from what I think is a sinus infection. Sadly, I'm not up to Chris' ability to cope with headaches. I think the right word would be 'pansy-ass'. But... like Fortune said, at least I have a bit more time for reading. Can't really concentrate enough for coherent posts though.
Fortune
Feb 14 2008, 09:25 PM
Slack!!!I guess that's what we can give you ... at least for now. Hurry up and get better ... or at least well enough to post.
DTFarstar
Feb 14 2008, 11:41 PM
If it makes you feel any better, my ability to cope with pain has been HARD earned over a period of 12-ish years, and honestly there are still quite a few days when it really gets the best of me. Then again, the magnitude is indescribable and there are a whole host of other secondary effects... Anyway, just wanted to say I'm sorry and I hope you feel better soon, or at least well enough to post and/or respond to my character. Also, found several things either wrong or that need small mods(want to be able to fire Automatics, apparently somehow managed to not copy my Language/Knowledge skills over into the PM, need a commlink so either I'm having a lot less drones and stuff than I want or will have to cut back on cyber/bio to get some cash. Etc. Also, still tweaking the exact background, not too much will change just because more specific and fleshed out. Trying to wait till everything is nailed down so I can incorporate everything into it. Also, still working through Arsenal so that isn't too helpful either.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 15 2008, 01:35 AM
Still reading Arsenal ... well absorbing might be a better word. I fully intend to make a few minor changes to bring the character in line with the new book ... unless Fisty says otherwise.
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 15 2008, 09:51 PM
ok Im pretty sure I'm better now. Both our boys had a 103 evers last night, ando ne of them was hallucinating. Crazy night.
DT, send me a draft of your character sheet so I have an idea of what you're at. I would suggest getting the bones finished first, then some meat, before going for the icing like the gear out of Arsenal. Right now you look like the guy that went to the grocery store hungry. i.e. grabbing everything in sight instead of what you actually need. Get what you need to have first then go for condiments.
OK I just went through like three different annalogies at once there. Weird.
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 15 2008, 10:27 PM
01101011011011100110111101110111001000000111100101101111011101010111001000100000
01110010011011110110111101110100011100110000110100001010
I didn't take the time to code it out myself, but it should say what I think it says. CSP to who ever gets it first.
Fortune
Feb 15 2008, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Feb 16 2008, 09:27 AM)

01101011011011100110111101110111001000000111100101101111011101010111001000100000
01110010011011110110111101110100011100110000110100001010
"Know your roots"

Glad you (and the little ones) are feeling better.
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 15 2008, 11:33 PM
2 CSP
Kids are 'recovering'. I'd say I'm better now, but I don't want to jinx myself.
DTFarstar
Feb 16 2008, 12:44 AM
Did you not get the draft I sent you the other day? I haven't changed much at all from that. I'll resend with the updates later tonight. Also, curses, I could have translated that but I left in the morning and didn't come back to my house till now, been with my GF for Valentine's Day. I used to take arbitrary words and sentences and translate them into binary while driving when my head was bad and I shouldn't have been on the road. I know everything I want, I just need the time to work through Arsenal, do the math and figure out what I need. I can have it done by the end of any day in which you tell me I need to finish, I have just been taking my time because well... I can, I guess.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 16 2008, 12:52 AM
Only two!!!???!!!

Note that Claymore wouldn't know the translation, though he would know the significance of the '1's and '0's.
DTFarstar
Feb 16 2008, 01:13 AM
Unless by look, you were talking about the sheet, and I realize that he is fairly spread out, with the exception of mechanical know-how, but that is what I'm going for. Covering tech as much as possible, being passable to above average in combat, and covering at least some matrixy stuff and some first aid with some other restrictions. So, I am spread fairly thin. I think I only top 15 dice on mechanics and first aid(before mods of course). Don't want to say too much more. But, this is what I was aiming for, if it doesn't fit just let me know. I can bang out an acceptable character in less than a day, I've just been taking my time because I can.
Chris
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 16 2008, 01:33 AM
DT, no, my bad, I hadn't noticed the hseet yet in my pile of stuff I needed to go through.
Fortune - only two. I should I have given you 1 (1+0=1). If you actually numbered it out, then it might be worth more, but knowing you, you ran it through something rather than numbering it out yourself.
I thought about doing it in hex, but binary seemed more appropriate.
Crit - HI!

Just wanna say, I love watchnig you guys freak out in the AR club. The hack job won't take long. I was leaving it wher I did to give you guys a chance to interact some more.
Fortune
Feb 16 2008, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Feb 16 2008, 12:33 PM)

Fortune - only two. I should I have given you 1 (1+0=1). If you actually numbered it out, then it might be worth more, but knowing you, you ran it through something rather than numbering it out yourself.
I'll never tell!

QUOTE
Just wanna say, I love watching you guys freak out in the AR club. The hack job won't take long. I was leaving it where I did to give you guys a chance to interact some more.
Leaving it there was good.

I'll more-than-likely have an updated character sheet over to you in the next week, after I fully absorb Arsenal, and the impact it has on my already-created crap. Are you intending to use some, most, any, all, few, half, or any random number of the suggested (or otherwise) optional rules in Arsenal? If so, which ones? Armor mods and the like come immediately to mind, as do weapon mods and all the new Capacity crap. I am perfectly willing to tweak away, but I would like some basis to work with.
DTFarstar
Feb 16 2008, 04:46 AM
That is information I need too. Like I said before, let me know when you need me done. It'll take me an hour or so.
Chris
Critias
Feb 16 2008, 05:54 AM
QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Feb 15 2008, 08:33 PM)

Crit - HI!

Yo.
QUOTE
Just wanna say, I love watchnig you guys freak out in the AR club. The hack job won't take long. I was leaving it wher I did to give you guys a chance to interact some more.
Well,
you know why Tain's got issues with too much VR (just like with alcohol). It's not just me RPing my own lack of comfort/knowledge with the zany new rules for it, in this case.
DTFarstar
Feb 17 2008, 04:46 AM
Trying to allocate what is left of my money, any suggestions as to gang or biker related things I need? I don't want to show up to the party dressed incorrectly or without the appropriate gift/baked goods.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 17 2008, 05:00 AM
A bike would be good.
DTFarstar
Feb 17 2008, 06:35 AM
Heh, ok, well, how about some maybe less obvious things? Also, how are we for heavy weaponry? I mean, I know Tain is a swordsman, and Claymore is pretty good with a pistol and a sword, but how are we for things like say... rockets/flamethrowers/grenades/the various machine guns? Also, would that be something I should steer away from? I don't want to ruin the theme for people. My idea of the Seattle Gangs might be different than all of yours and I would prefer to follow the generally accepted train of thought.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 17 2008, 07:24 AM
Claymore don't need no sword! He likes to get personal, so he uses his hands.

Nothing really comes to mind. I say just get what you want, and we'll sort it out later if something is lacking.
DTFarstar
Feb 17 2008, 09:13 AM
Just checking to see if there was anything I needed to avoid or acquire specifically. Don't want to crash the party with something that breaks the environment or anything like that. Arsenal has given me all sorts of nasty ideas. I have a feeling that after hooking up with you guys Haven is going to swiftly become a nightmare for whoever is fucking with everyone.
Chris
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 17 2008, 10:05 PM
My times been limited, as I go back and forth between tending to my fambily and trying to decided if I'm 'recovered' or not my self. To save me huge amounts of browsing, how's about you list which optional rules you're specifically asking about, and I'll look over any other ones that look interesting in the mean time.
Fortune
Feb 18 2008, 12:10 AM
Well ... um ... all of them!

Seriously though, pretty much everything in the book could apply to my character. Not so much the vehicles and drones for me, although DTF is more-than-likely interested in that section. I mean, there's quite a lot ... new armor rules and capacity, new weapons and mods and ways to apply those mods, martial arts rules which include the use of Qualities, not to mention drugs and explosives ... How do I narrow it down? You've read the book by now, so you should have a good idea what you are going to allow. I would normally just go ahead and assume everything is canon, but some of the optional rules contradict other optional rules, so that makes things tough (unless I cherry pick the best rules for me!

).
fistandantilus4.0
Feb 18 2008, 01:16 AM
Looks like I've got a lot of reading to do.
DTFarstar
Feb 18 2008, 05:13 AM
I try, still revising my background to fit my flaws and such, and you should have my 20Qs now.
Chris
Fortune
Feb 18 2008, 06:53 AM
QUOTE (fistandantilus4.0 @ Feb 18 2008, 12:16 PM)

Looks like I've got a lot of reading to do.
I'm still reading it too. I'm thinking it'll mostly come down to little tweaks (mostly to fall within the new limitations). If you allow the martial arts rules though, I will have to really think about things.
DTFarstar
Feb 18 2008, 05:26 PM
I am still reading it, as wel, which is why Fist doesn't have my gear list yet, but I can pound one out whenever he needs and fill in the things I missed later on.
Probably nothing from the martial arts rules for me. Dar'ian has never really learned much about using any blades but scalpels. He'll club someone to death though. Preferably with a shock baton. I like the Telescopic Staff, the Stun Staff, and the Jupiter Taser Club for melee weapons, the Thunderbolt for a Pistol, the PJSS for a Sport Rifle, the HK PSG for a sniper rifle, a SPAS-22 for my shotgun. IF I can afford all that. Also need a couple of machine guns or somesuch things for drones. Also need to modify the hell out of them ALL. *cackle maniacly*
Chris
DTFarstar
Feb 20 2008, 05:18 AM
I'm concerned. No posts in like 36 hours? Am I truly game cancer?
Chris
Critias
Feb 20 2008, 05:34 AM
Shhh. Everyone stay quiet, maybe he'll think we're dead and go away.
Fortune
Feb 20 2008, 05:34 AM
QUOTE (DTFarstar @ Feb 20 2008, 04:18 PM)

Am I truly game cancer?
Yes!

As for the IC, I am waiting for either Callidus or the Fister to post, as that seems appropriate at the moment.
Critias
Feb 20 2008, 05:42 AM
Ditto.
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