pardon my rifts terms, but full-conversion cyborgs (a human brain inside a 100% machine body) are just plain cool. Especially considering the fact that the brain could survive about 300 years whereas our other biological support systems fail long before that(in less than 100 years usually).

Also, a body comprised entirely of machinery has allure because people tend to think of machines as being able to do everything a human can do(physically), but faster, stronger, and more precise.

Cyberpunk: 2020 (and V3) have had full-conversion 'borgs for a long time. Since they dont have the essence problem at all. Considering how much essence you lose just to have 4 cyberlimbs and a cybertorso, a full-conversion cyborg in shadowrun is likely a cyberzombie at best.

Personally, if it were available, I'd go full-conversion without ever having regrets.

actually, if you just have alpha in each type of cyberlimb (and the two cybershells) it comes up below 6 essence cost. if you also have the right qualities, that can go even lower.

you are, however, correct about it not being cheap.

well there was other risks in 2020, namely going cyberpsycho...

but in v3 that concept is fully gone. hell, now you have a altcult where its expect that when a child reach adulthood, (s)he gets to choose a body. now thats a rite of passage!

Meh.

Dude, that's such BS. They've found evidence of cyborgs inside egyption tombs that predate the chinese cyborgs by almost 2000 years. You think they had unmodified humans lifting those big f-ing bricks to build the pyramids?

Ah, but you forget about the Anglos. It was in fact the English who first had use of cyborgs, which they used to heft those large rocks around for Stonehenge. Surely you don't really think that they moved the suckers around on logs. In fact, recent archeological discoveries have proven the use of cybernetic parts when they uncovered "Copernicus," the mummified corpse of an ancient cybered male.

There is only one Atlantis it is 10's of thousands of years old and not too long ago we found out where it was and how to get to it.

Although travel to the Pegasus Galaxy is limited to a few specialists and military personnel for now one can hope they will soon allow others to visit.

For now though they do have a live video journal type thing on the Sci-Fi network on Fridays.

Have you never heard of age-related mental-deseases like parkinson, altzheimer, or plain getting senile ?

I think that about no brain will be 100% functional for about 300 years...

Senility is not necessarily linked to age, and neither is parkinsons or alzheimer's. In the latter two, they can be detected long before the full effects are ever felt. Perhaps, in the age of magic and nanotechnology, can be cured as well.

One of the books in the fluff commentary has a note about brains in a jar jogging some old memory... Dune comes to mind and the name was Dune related.

Those brains had been going for a VERY long time.

While I can see why you'd say that, I can promise Dune was not the reference the author intended.

I can also point out that I've never actually has seen GitS. As others have pointed out, there are other older sources for material on cyborgs. (I'm pretty sure that Deathlok is the first one that I distinctly remember reading about, which'd be around 1977 or so in a Marvel Two-in-One.)

Its hardly copying the popular anime, when almost anything touched in anime has already been done before. To claim that they are copying from a specific anime source is rather daft. I can't think of much, if anything, that anime has truly come up with on its own that hasn't already been done in fiction somewhere else.

Dude, Tachikoma's and Fuchikoma's crack me up. They're damn funny.
So much so I went out tonight and bought some Infinity and AT-43 miniatures
for my wife, she plays our Rigger. So now she's going to put some AIs in those drones
and have them back us up. GiTS FTW.

Infinity drones 1

Infinity drone 2

Infinity drones 3

This one I said she can call a Metal....Gear. Heh.

AT-43 drone

"Oh, I_______, ain't got no_ body! Doo be do!"

Man if I had H's head in a jar I'd drop kick it out an airlock. I loathe IEs.

Hmm, the staple "insert space tentacle into various body cavities" comes to mind...

I think Hyzmarca converted that to Shadowrun a while ago.

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-K.

The question was what original thing has Anime contributed to fiction.

transformable mecha?

(i'm actually completely uncertain of that.... but if it didn't introduce the concept, it at least seems to be responsible for making it well known)

as far as cat-girls though, i'm afraid egyptian priests beat anime to that... although their version was probably a little less approachable, being a goddess and all...

Abbey somebody... Abbey... Normal.

Actually the idea of a robot with a pilot (as opposed to a self motivating robot) appears to be original to anime. (Mazinger Z, by Go Nagai)

Guess you never saw or read War of the Worlds, huh?. Only thing anime did was give 'em a name.