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Full Version: movies with a shadowrun feel
It's a terrible confession, but I'm up to it: I'm one of those sadly anal types who arranges his vids and DVDs in alphabetical order. However, I DO have a separate section entitled "Movies that make me feel Shadowrunny..." which is "out of order" with the rest.
A selection of these, in no particular order (many of which have already been done...):
-American Yakuza Films (don't think anyone did these yet? Flash pack, shiny guns and sanitary towels...)
-Assassins (obvious)
-Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever (Banderas and Liu in tat movie... but with excelent bang-bang... and good forward planning... "I'll just stash this G38 here in case I get in a situation..." oh, and Ray Park is SUCH a bad man... acting skills? where?)
-Bladerunner (obvious)
-Blade & Blade II (and again...)
-Broken Arrow (large scale Military heist... and that Park Ranger is GORGEOUS!!!)
-Bulletproof Monk (physad mentor and students...)
-The Crow (all of them, for obvious reasons)
-Cyborg (duh)
-Dark Angel (The series kicks SR ass, but I'm talking about the Dolph Lundgren film... tacky shite, but hugely amusing)
-Dog Soldiers (Very Military, but logistical, and good use of handy domestic implements as weapons. Also, what do you do when the paranormal throws a surprise at you?)
-Dusk til Dawn (and the sequels to some extent)
-Equilibrium (some tat, some good, excelent action sequences - kudos to the choreographer)
-Freejack (again, duh... decorative ashtray my ass...)
-Future Sport (the remake with Dean Cain... sorry, but the urban bits are Runny..)
-Ghosts of Mars (I don't know why...)
-GROSSE POINTE BLANK (Yes, there's an E on the end of Pointe... as in, the geographical term. Yes, it's a kick ass movie, yes, yes, yes. Mr Cusack RULES, BABY!)
-Hackers (juvenile, but fun)
-Hudson Hawk
-Jackie Brown (when you absolutely have to take out...)
-Last Man Standing (out of time scale, but an example of a fallible hard man with great attitude, skill, a double gun rig, and an example of "why movie characters never run out of bullets." Also, who cares about getting dressed when someone's shooting at you?)
-Mission Impossible Movies (for the gadgetry)
-Ocean's Eleven (as stated already)
-The One (Jet Li as Physad? Love the ending, with the Papa Roach overscore...)
-Predator 2 (stated already, for similar reasons... also, love Danny's stash of guns in the car boot, and the fight on the tube train)
-The Punnisher (guns guns guns... and that CAR!)
-The Rock (infiltration of extraterritorial compound... ish. Also, nobody says the word "tosser" better than Mr Connery!)
-Ronin (another duh)
-Soldier (gengineering at its tackyest)
-Split Second (Rutger, Pete AND Alun! Woohoo!)
-Steel Dawn (Odd, but a post-apocolyptic hack-and-slash movie with Patrick Swayze. Don't ask me to explain myself on this one, please... it DOES have Brion James in it, though... cool as a cucumber...)
-Tank Girl (Fit rigger lass, anyone?)
-The Tomb Raider Films (Matched USP's anyone (excuse the pun))
-The Transporter (as already mentioned)
-US Marshalls (Lose the Nickel plated sissy-gun and get yourself a glock...)
-Vampires (with Mr Woods... organised teamwork, and a crossbow....)
There are heaps more, but my fingers are getting sore from all this typing...
A selection of these, in no particular order (many of which have already been done...):
-American Yakuza Films (don't think anyone did these yet? Flash pack, shiny guns and sanitary towels...)
-Assassins (obvious)
-Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever (Banderas and Liu in tat movie... but with excelent bang-bang... and good forward planning... "I'll just stash this G38 here in case I get in a situation..." oh, and Ray Park is SUCH a bad man... acting skills? where?)
-Bladerunner (obvious)
-Blade & Blade II (and again...)
-Broken Arrow (large scale Military heist... and that Park Ranger is GORGEOUS!!!)
-Bulletproof Monk (physad mentor and students...)
-The Crow (all of them, for obvious reasons)
-Cyborg (duh)
-Dark Angel (The series kicks SR ass, but I'm talking about the Dolph Lundgren film... tacky shite, but hugely amusing)
-Dog Soldiers (Very Military, but logistical, and good use of handy domestic implements as weapons. Also, what do you do when the paranormal throws a surprise at you?)
-Dusk til Dawn (and the sequels to some extent)
-Equilibrium (some tat, some good, excelent action sequences - kudos to the choreographer)
-Freejack (again, duh... decorative ashtray my ass...)
-Future Sport (the remake with Dean Cain... sorry, but the urban bits are Runny..)
-Ghosts of Mars (I don't know why...)
-GROSSE POINTE BLANK (Yes, there's an E on the end of Pointe... as in, the geographical term. Yes, it's a kick ass movie, yes, yes, yes. Mr Cusack RULES, BABY!)
-Hackers (juvenile, but fun)
-Hudson Hawk
-Jackie Brown (when you absolutely have to take out...)
-Last Man Standing (out of time scale, but an example of a fallible hard man with great attitude, skill, a double gun rig, and an example of "why movie characters never run out of bullets." Also, who cares about getting dressed when someone's shooting at you?)
-Mission Impossible Movies (for the gadgetry)
-Ocean's Eleven (as stated already)
-The One (Jet Li as Physad? Love the ending, with the Papa Roach overscore...)
-Predator 2 (stated already, for similar reasons... also, love Danny's stash of guns in the car boot, and the fight on the tube train)
-The Punnisher (guns guns guns... and that CAR!)
-The Rock (infiltration of extraterritorial compound... ish. Also, nobody says the word "tosser" better than Mr Connery!)
-Ronin (another duh)
-Soldier (gengineering at its tackyest)
-Split Second (Rutger, Pete AND Alun! Woohoo!)
-Steel Dawn (Odd, but a post-apocolyptic hack-and-slash movie with Patrick Swayze. Don't ask me to explain myself on this one, please... it DOES have Brion James in it, though... cool as a cucumber...)
-Tank Girl (Fit rigger lass, anyone?)
-The Tomb Raider Films (Matched USP's anyone (excuse the pun))
-The Transporter (as already mentioned)
-US Marshalls (Lose the Nickel plated sissy-gun and get yourself a glock...)
-Vampires (with Mr Woods... organised teamwork, and a crossbow....)
There are heaps more, but my fingers are getting sore from all this typing...
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Two minor points. *snip* 2) The quirky HBO movie you are thinking of is To Cast a Deadly Spell, and it stars Fred Ward, not Dennis Hopper. *snip* |
To correct the correction: Dennis Hopper takes the role of Detective Philipp Lovecraft in 'Witch Hunt,' the sequel to 'To Cast a Deadly Spell.' It's unfortuntely a rather lame effort compared to the first one, and includes as one of its plot points, Joseph McCarthy running a witchhunt for spellcasters in the state department.
'Dog Soldiers' has already been mentioned, but it's still a great example of unprepared mundane military taking on the super natural (plus the line, 'There is no spoon!' I can't remember the last time I laughed that hard).
Undercover Blues: Phys Ads on vacation? A good inspiration for light hearted runs.
Encrypt: Great examples of a dystopian society and run gone stupid (after they get set to blow the outer doors, one member runs up and pulls on the handle, because no one thought to check to see if they were unlocked) and how not to set up security in a place where childrens groups once toured (hey kids, if you step here, knives fly out of the walls!). Might make a great video prop. "This was the previous runner team. Don't be like them.'
Blue Thunder - he's a rigger (I forgot the name of actor)
Maybe it was already : Rollerball (combat bikers)
I think we should focus on bad characters:
In my opinion many movie-hero protagonists are rough shadowrunners.
I see Nikoli already mentioned Die Hard. But look at them (especially good its seen in sequel.). Schwarccharacters are merc runners for sure. That's only one example, but there's many more such movies (I think I mentioned Liberator 2 bad guys crew). Boys from Leathal Weapon movies (I can't wait when they produce TV series of it
), Bad boys from "Bad Boys" 
...
Maybe it was already : Rollerball (combat bikers)
I think we should focus on bad characters:
In my opinion many movie-hero protagonists are rough shadowrunners.
I see Nikoli already mentioned Die Hard. But look at them (especially good its seen in sequel.). Schwarccharacters are merc runners for sure. That's only one example, but there's many more such movies (I think I mentioned Liberator 2 bad guys crew). Boys from Leathal Weapon movies (I can't wait when they produce TV series of it
), Bad boys from "Bad Boys" ...
Welcome to Collinwood
It's the best heist film I've ever seen, especially if you're looking for a movie that relates to 'street-level' and isn't fully of a bunch of CIA/FBI/Special Forces badasses.
It's the best heist film I've ever seen, especially if you're looking for a movie that relates to 'street-level' and isn't fully of a bunch of CIA/FBI/Special Forces badasses.
Its not a movie and I'll probably get flamed for even suggesting it, but I must mention that NBC soap opera Days of Our Lives for one reason, Stefano Dimera.
Vindictive Flaw + Unlimited resources = I kidnaped you, made everyone think you are dead, and put a chip in your brain that made you believe that you were the crown princess of [unnamed european country] and my personal art thief because the man who your husband thought was his father did something to piss me off 40 some odd years ago.
Vindictive Flaw + Unlimited resources = I kidnaped you, made everyone think you are dead, and put a chip in your brain that made you believe that you were the crown princess of [unnamed european country] and my personal art thief because the man who your husband thought was his father did something to piss me off 40 some odd years ago.
Wow. I'd never expect someone here to watch soaps.
Downloading 6th world conversions...
All My Children > All My Spike Babies
Another World > The 6th World
As the World Turns > As the World Goblinizes
The Bold and the Beautiful > The Trolls and the Elves
Days of Our Lives > Nights of Our Runs
General Hospital > Doc Wagon Shift
Guiding Light > My Totem Calls
One Life to Live > Damage Overflows
The Young and the Restless > Metahumanity and the Horrors
(and for the record, I had to do a search to come up with these)
All My Children > All My Spike Babies
Another World > The 6th World
As the World Turns > As the World Goblinizes
The Bold and the Beautiful > The Trolls and the Elves
Days of Our Lives > Nights of Our Runs
General Hospital > Doc Wagon Shift
Guiding Light > My Totem Calls
One Life to Live > Damage Overflows
The Young and the Restless > Metahumanity and the Horrors
(and for the record, I had to do a search to come up with these)
Bellevue Hills 98007.
~J
~J
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| and for the record, I had to do a search to come up with these |
And we're supposd to believe that?
| QUOTE (Crimson Jack @ Jan 2 2005, 01:47 PM) |
| (and for the record, I had to do a search to come up with these) |
Soundin' pretty defensive there, buddy.
... conversion continues 
Shaft > Lord Torgo
Shaft > Lord Torgo
Heh, yes I do love my soaps with my runs. After an all-weekend gaming session, when I really need to unwind, nothing eases my pains like a good episode of All My Children. God... I'm a bit veklempt. 
If you're going to do shaft might as well go:
Dolomite>Trollomite
Dolomite>Trollomite
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| Heh I wonder how the Jason Bourne character would stats out. |
Massively. I mean, he's got every munchkins favourite flaw of amnesia. If it wasn't for the serious charisma and social skills he'd probably just another PC cliche.
Edit: And if you have SotA 2064 take a look in the spy section some time for a laugh.
The Big Three:
Spartan
It's a fairly recent David Mamet movie that slipped under the radar somewhat, but for it's exceptionally sharp and done almost entirely in trade-speak. SR relevant for small high professional teams. Good examples of trade dialogue, legwork, bluffing, contacts, set-ups, cut-outs, and small team assaults.
Heat
Follows a team of highly organized robbers and the detectives chasing them. Fantastic for larger groups of ruthless, professional shadowrunners. Good examples of highly organized ambushes, impromptu urban firefights (and preparation for), fixers, double-crosses, and detective trailing/legwork.
Ronin
Still one of the best for shadowrun. Starts with a group of professionals who don't know each other, gathered together by a johnson to do a job. The opening does a great job of showing the way a johnson can work, how teams get put together and how the roles can flesh together. More double-crosses, urban firefights, ambushes, car chases, good examples of how higher level contacts work. Should be required for those wanting to do professional shadowrunning.
Movies that are good for large teams running low-combat face-intensive con jobs:
Confidence. Very sharp.
The Italian Job (remake). Might be a bit too flashy, but it's inspiring.
Ocean's Eleven. Ditto.
Movies for character ideas or demonstrations of highly capable individuals:
Bourne Identity. The unarmed combat scenes are excellent.
Bourne Supremacy. Excellent improvisation.
The Usual Suspects. Some good teamwork, but much better for demonstrating cool characters.
Grosse Pointe Blank. Not serious, but very funny.
The Bit Hit. Same, but not as funny.
Underworld. Some stuff about vampires and were wolves in modernish setting, but more important as examples of what physads/sams might move like.
The Negotiator. Gives respect to the police teams and shows how they might work. Also shows how they could be foiled.
Spy Game. Nifty intelligence shows.
To build possibilities for futuristic worlds, also with good some good character demos:
Matrix trilogy. Some matrix thoughts, also shows how chromed/physads might move.
The Minority Report. Bright and shiny corporate world.
Blade Runner. Dark and depressing future world.
Good movies for military teams:
Blackhawk Down. Heavy urban combat.
Tears of the Sun. Excellent green-kit special ops. Except for the final firefight. Grrrr.
A Bridge Too Far. Okay, maybe not, but it gave me some good character concepts.
Miscellaneous:
The Last Samurai. Good for getting the samurai part of the Street Sam down.
Narc. Good for getting your grit on.
Road to Perdition. Good for the older noir feel.
Last Man Standing. So wrong, but really gritty man.
Brother. Yakuza!
Spartan
It's a fairly recent David Mamet movie that slipped under the radar somewhat, but for it's exceptionally sharp and done almost entirely in trade-speak. SR relevant for small high professional teams. Good examples of trade dialogue, legwork, bluffing, contacts, set-ups, cut-outs, and small team assaults.
Heat
Follows a team of highly organized robbers and the detectives chasing them. Fantastic for larger groups of ruthless, professional shadowrunners. Good examples of highly organized ambushes, impromptu urban firefights (and preparation for), fixers, double-crosses, and detective trailing/legwork.
Ronin
Still one of the best for shadowrun. Starts with a group of professionals who don't know each other, gathered together by a johnson to do a job. The opening does a great job of showing the way a johnson can work, how teams get put together and how the roles can flesh together. More double-crosses, urban firefights, ambushes, car chases, good examples of how higher level contacts work. Should be required for those wanting to do professional shadowrunning.
Movies that are good for large teams running low-combat face-intensive con jobs:
Confidence. Very sharp.
The Italian Job (remake). Might be a bit too flashy, but it's inspiring.
Ocean's Eleven. Ditto.
Movies for character ideas or demonstrations of highly capable individuals:
Bourne Identity. The unarmed combat scenes are excellent.
Bourne Supremacy. Excellent improvisation.
The Usual Suspects. Some good teamwork, but much better for demonstrating cool characters.
Grosse Pointe Blank. Not serious, but very funny.
The Bit Hit. Same, but not as funny.
Underworld. Some stuff about vampires and were wolves in modernish setting, but more important as examples of what physads/sams might move like.
The Negotiator. Gives respect to the police teams and shows how they might work. Also shows how they could be foiled.
Spy Game. Nifty intelligence shows.
To build possibilities for futuristic worlds, also with good some good character demos:
Matrix trilogy. Some matrix thoughts, also shows how chromed/physads might move.
The Minority Report. Bright and shiny corporate world.
Blade Runner. Dark and depressing future world.
Good movies for military teams:
Blackhawk Down. Heavy urban combat.
Tears of the Sun. Excellent green-kit special ops. Except for the final firefight. Grrrr.
A Bridge Too Far. Okay, maybe not, but it gave me some good character concepts.
Miscellaneous:
The Last Samurai. Good for getting the samurai part of the Street Sam down.
Narc. Good for getting your grit on.
Road to Perdition. Good for the older noir feel.
Last Man Standing. So wrong, but really gritty man.
Brother. Yakuza!
QUOTEDaishi
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| Brother. Yakuza! |
Hana-Bi Real Yakuza :bs: !
Not a movie, but on a recent episode of Spike TV's "The Club" (an "American Chopper"-style show about a bunch of dysfunctional losers running a club in Las Vegas), the principal investor in the club found out some things about the management of the facility that he didn't like, so he took the club over and put a new management team in charge during a nighttime raid.
That episode was a classic, textbook shadowrun on TV and in real life if I ever have seen any. The infiltrators/new management team (the runners) met with their Johnson (the investor, Greg), went through a detailed planning session about mission objectives, physical security and electronic security in the facilities they were infiltrating that night. They even had the old sys-admin for The Club's website/overall computer system on the team, and were discussing how to break into and reconfigure the computer's security system so that they could access it, but the old management could not (can anybody say "decking"?). They even flimed the operation as it occured. The only things missing were the guns, mages, random Hellhounds and Lone Star.
Well worth it to catch and record a repeat of it, especially if you GM a game.
LordHaHa
That episode was a classic, textbook shadowrun on TV and in real life if I ever have seen any. The infiltrators/new management team (the runners) met with their Johnson (the investor, Greg), went through a detailed planning session about mission objectives, physical security and electronic security in the facilities they were infiltrating that night. They even had the old sys-admin for The Club's website/overall computer system on the team, and were discussing how to break into and reconfigure the computer's security system so that they could access it, but the old management could not (can anybody say "decking"?). They even flimed the operation as it occured. The only things missing were the guns, mages, random Hellhounds and Lone Star.
Well worth it to catch and record a repeat of it, especially if you GM a game.
LordHaHa
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| Oh yes I forgot about this one: a French action movie called "Nid de Guepes" in French: about a small heist turned bad: a few guys who want to rob a warehouse and by sheer unluck, a group of SWAT soldiers transporting a terrorist bound for trial end up in the same warehouse which is soon besieged by terrorists...intense action, nice costumes.. |
This came out in the US as The Nest It was alright, the mask was very cool.
Did anyone mention the Returner?
| QUOTE (Daishi) |
| Ronin Still one of the best for shadowrun. Starts with a group of professionals who don't know each other, gathered together by a johnson to do a job. The opening does a great job of showing the way a johnson can work, how teams get put together and how the roles can flesh together. More double-crosses, urban firefights, ambushes, car chases, good examples of how higher level contacts work. Should be required for those wanting to do professional shadowrunning. |
Great SR movie, except for the fact that it's two hours of professionals screwing up.
| QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) |
| Great SR movie, except for the fact that it's two hours of professionals screwing up. |
Screwing up? It seemed a lot more like professionals adapting to a huge chain of snags and snafus.
| QUOTE (LordHaHa) |
| Not a movie, but on a recent episode of Spike TV's "The Club" (an "American Chopper"-style show about a bunch of dysfunctional losers running a club in Las Vegas), the principal investor in the club found out some things about the management of the facility that he didn't like, so he took the club over and put a new management team in charge during a nighttime raid. That episode was a classic, textbook shadowrun on TV and in real life if I ever have seen any. The infiltrators/new management team (the runners) met with their Johnson (the investor, Greg), went through a detailed planning session about mission objectives, physical security and electronic security in the facilities they were infiltrating that night. They even had the old sys-admin for The Club's website/overall computer system on the team, and were discussing how to break into and reconfigure the computer's security system so that they could access it, but the old management could not (can anybody say "decking"?). They even flimed the operation as it occured. The only things missing were the guns, mages, random Hellhounds and Lone Star. Well worth it to catch and record a repeat of it, especially if you GM a game. LordHaHa |
Yeah I saw that one. Definately cool, definately SR. I could imagine my runners doing that while the idiots were playing baseball...*laugh*
You know, that might be a fun run to start a underworld campaign (mafia vs. mafia, I would think)
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| Blue Thunder - he's a rigger (I forgot the name of actor) Maybe it was already : Rollerball (combat bikers) I think we should focus on bad characters: In my opinion many movie-hero protagonists are rough shadowrunners. I see Nikoli already mentioned Die Hard. But look at them (especially good its seen in sequel.). Schwarccharacters are merc runners for sure. That's only one example, but there's many more such movies (I think I mentioned Liberator 2 bad guys crew). Boys from Leathal Weapon movies (I can't wait when they produce TV series of it ), Bad boys from "Bad Boys" ... |
Roy Scheider plays "Officer Murphy" (Vietnam Vet turned "I dislike the military" in the original movie. Judge Reihold (from Beverly Hills Cop) played the JAFO. in the Blue Thunder movie. (German title: Das fliegende Auge - The flying eye)
While the movie had a lot of elements (Corporations and the Military working together to provoke an uprising so they can sell helicopters and go for tougher laws) of Punk, it is more a late 70s / early 80s critique on the power of the military-industrial complex in the USA. Otherwise "Airwolf" and "Knight Rider" are rigger shows too.
Rollerball (the old one with James Caan even more than the new one) is classical Punk. With the man against the system and all. The new one tones the conflict down to a more local fight against one corrupt person but still has nice elements (like the protected life of the stars, clearing the road etc)
Birdy
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(Birdy) ...Judge Reinhold (from Beverly Hills Cop) played the JAFO, in the Blue Thunder movie... |
Birdy:
With all due respect, Judge Reinhold is the wrong actor.
According to The Internet Movie Database, the part of "Officer Richard Lymangood", a/k/a "JAFO" ("Just Another Fragging Observer" in SR parlance) in the 1983 film BLUE THUNDER was played by Daniel Stern.
He went on to star in such films as HOME ALONE (1990) and HOME ALONE 2: LOST IN NEW YORK (1992) (in the role of "Marv Merchants"), as well as CITY SLICKERS (1991) and CITY SLICKERS 2: THE LEGEND OF CURLY'S GOLD (1994) (in the role of "Phil Berquist").
Incidentally, although it was a good flick, I always thought that Roy Scheider's "Officer Frank Murphy" in BLUE THUNDER was a pale imitation of Clint Eastwood's "Mitchell Gant" in 1983's FIREFOX--both characters are excellent pilots, Vietnam veterans, and have psychological problems related to their war service. Both are excellent films, however, and I recommend them if you're into high-tech suspense thrillers.
--Foreigner
| QUOTE (Daishi) | ||
Screwing up? It seemed a lot more like professionals adapting to a huge chain of snags and snafus. |
Many of which are self-created.
| QUOTE (Crimsondude 2.0) | ||
Great SR movie, except for the fact that it's two hours of professionals screwing up. |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!
That's great, man. It's funny b/c that's what SR teams seem to do if you read any of the "Here's what my group did" posts.
Total cost in for your average SR team: 3.5 mil
Seeing them screw up: Priceless.
Ah. So that's why I've never been party to one of those posts.
Your group never screws up? Must be nice.
We've limited collateral damage to virtually nil--innocent bystanders don't get shot in the games I play--and we don't run our planning ops like their were planned by kindergarteners, so... yeah.
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