both *g*

I guarantee that I could pull the trigger on a weapon that outweighed me by thousands of pounds. I don't think a strength minimum should be required to 'fire' a weapon. As for carrying it I have seen African kids of 2 or 3 or 4 (or whatever), too small to effectively lift and hold their AK-47s. Instead, they just grab it by the barrel and drag it behind them until they get to where they can prop it up (or lie prone) and use it.

Recoil really isn't all that much of a problem. Fluff says that the weapon has a kick. So what? It is only Single Shot, so whatever kick it has is already taken into consideration prior to the next time the weapon can be fired.

Really, I think you are harping on the wrong problem here. By the RAW a STR score of 1 is sufficient, which is logical. It doesn't take a super-athlete to wield and fire even a very large rifle. If you are strong enough to lift it (which there are rules for) you can probably use a single-shot weapon like the Assault Cannon effectively. In game terms even a sub-average weakling can do it.

I can see where you might have an issue having small children firing such a weapon. But unless (as other have said) you are playing kiddyrun, this is likely to only be an issue for you, the GM. So you are free to apply any penalty that you deem appropriate, for small children with assault cannons. I would go with -2 or so. You players are not likely to be complaining about the size of the penalty you are applying to children with panther cannons. Personally I would probably be more concerned where these children got the schooling in using Heavy Weapons. Though I admit it could make for a interesting run...

The real question you should be asking is, what the heck IS the assault cannon? It's been around since like 2nd edition or so, and its still not clear. Logically it doesn't match up with any real-world weapon we have or any we really imagine. There just aren't man-portable weapons that fire large high-explosive shells at significant velocities. I tend to think of it as something like Bato's big gun from Ghost in the Shell, but really there is no clear answer, its picture certainly doesn't make sense.

Can you give me a rules quote that says vehicles are not carried by characters, of course not, your basing that on LOGIC, the same logic that prevents a 6yr old from toting a cannon.

hehehe

I prefer college girls

that was just my impression of a 6 year old in an Assault cannon store

College girls still go to school, so they count!

Funny you should mention that.
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I've always thought of Panther Cannons as anti-tank rifles, although I guess a more modern version would be the anti-materiel rifle. I've always preferred Panther Cannons to be in the 20mm caliber, particularly because:

In a world with juggernauts, megladons and dragons (oh my), I could see a weapon like this becoming a lot more popular. (Also, given that an "individual soldier" might be ten feet tall or made primarily of titanium, they might no longer be considered small targets.)

Depends what part of the world you're from

I always was amused by the tendency for Americans to blur the line between school, college and university.

It isn't as much a blurred lined as a category. Engaging in employment for renumeration is known as 'work', while attending an institute dedicated to education is called 'school'.

And what makes you think I'm American?

I agree with this.

You're interpretation is a common one, but I don't think it exactly matches the fluff, which describes some sort of very large caliber weapon (at least 20mm, probably larger) which fires explosive shells of some sort. The images certainly look nothing like any sort of modern or past anti-material rifle. I honestly think that some sort of AAA cannon is probably the best fit to the fluff, like the Bofors 40 mm cannon or something. Of course having such a weapon be man-portable (or even-troll portable) is pushing the limit of realism. Anti-material rifles are probably closer to the larger and more deadly variants of sniper rifles in the fluff.

Can't say the concept isn't cool though

The Barret 121T from SR3 cannon companion is the biggest "rifle" class weapon ever published in the game.

20mm ammo is quite capable of some serious explosive effects, and it certainly IS used on some APCs as a main gun.

There is a world of difference in the .50-20mm rounds used on some man-portable anti-material rifles and the 20-30mm rounds used on an APC.

A typical anti-material rifle round might be the .50BMG or something as big as the 14.5x114mm Russian. But modern rounds on an APC are even bigger than that. The M2 uses the massive 25mm NATO which is more than twice as large. And the trend seems to be of increasingly large rounds with most of the world up-gunning to even large 30mm weapons. Of course the Bofors round I was talking about is considerably larger than even that.

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But this really isn't my point. I've got no beef with ruling the Assault Cannon an exceptionally large and powerful anti-material rifle, I just don't think it fits the fluff. Which describes something different, and the art which certainly looks different. But then again when you start talking very large anti-material rifles and smallish cannons used on APCs the differences in our opinions are not so far apart.

Also my point is that the fluff on the Assault Cannon really doesn't make a lot of sense, which I stand by.

I apologise if I assumed. However from a British perspective "engaging in education" is called education, and school is primary(up to 11)/secondary(11-16/18 if they have sixth form) schools. It just strikes me as particularly odd to see "school" used as a categorisation.

...isn't this the RL weapon they doctored up for Robocop? Or was it an M-82? Thought I saw something here on the forum but my search foo is too lazy today.

as to schoolgirls with big guns....

cute

You'll need to scroll down a little...

Check out Arsenal when you get a chance. The new assault cannon's artwork looks like an artist's rendering of a Barrett payload rifle. Answers (in a sort-of-subtle way) years of debate on the Internet, for me

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Just saw the original a couple nights ago. Still a fun film.

@TheOneRonin: Yeah this one get's my vote too. I like the fact it breaks down small enough to effectively stick in a golf bag. If I saw someone pull this out on the links I most certainly would let him play through....

"Damn sliced it! Caddy, the NTW-20 please...

me wanna, do they deliver?

At a little less than 4 feet, the payload rifle fits in a golf bag _without_ breaking down. You just have to put one of those club socks over the muzzle brake.

likely guess, only to recognized nation states...

but when it comes to firearm laws, im known to be wrong...