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Jhaiisiin
One thing I want to add to this regarding Paradigm and force of will for spells...

I've always viewed magic use as needing those two things first and foremost. You can learn a *lot* of things without ever being "taught" them. Mechanical skills, drawing, martial arts, etc etc etc. In most cases, your talents won't be as honed as someone who has professional training, but that doesn't stop you from doing it. That said, it seems reasonable that a child can awaken and subsequently learn to toss low level spells on his/her own, just from experimentation. The advantage a child has over an adult, or even a teenager, is that their reality is already fluid and abstract. They believe anything is possible. What they believe is their paradigm. If they focus on it hard enough, they'd have the force of will, and presto, spell. The more often they do it, the easier it'd become to cast that spell.

Some here are trying to state it is flat out impossible to learn to use magic without proper education. To me, that's just crazy. Magic is a natural force in the 6th world, and something that awakened individuals can tap in to with (relatively) little effort in some cases. Shamans don't use formulas and processes to cast their spells. They use belief, pure and simple. Children, for lack of a better analogy, are all shamans in the way they think. Those that awaken later in life are probably more prone to be hermetic mages, simply because the adult mind needs the equations and how-to's of something to see how it works at that point. Belief is harder for an adult to grasp, formulas are easy.

So at least in my opinion (and thus gaming worlds), magic can manifest early without issue. It's not going to be common, but it's going to be possible, and if it's even 1 in a million, that's still about 7000 kids world-wide that can do stuff they "shouldn't be able to." The incidence of this would likely be more common in areas where belief drives everything (superstitious towns, backwoods areas, tribal societies, etc), so it's a definite possibility to consider. Maybe it never happens in your game, but it *could*, and that's enough to figure this stuff out to find out it's implications should it actually occur.
bibliophile20
QUOTE (nathanross @ Feb 13 2008, 01:27 PM) *
Man, Im only 21 and I cant hear it, T.T

Too much loud music is usually the cause... smile.gif

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Now Ive heard this is a problem but I really cant understand why. Its not like a person can hold a conversation with said caller even if the do know they're calling.

Text message alerts.

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Also, whats the issue with vibration?

Because that's noticeable; either the person has to have it practically in contact with the skin, which makes it awkward for covert removal, or it's on their desk and even the teacher will notice the loud buzz created when the damn thing vibrates against the solid surface.


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Anyways, any good teacher that is properly attentive to his/her class shouldn't be unable to know when teens are using their cell phones (I for one find it painfully obvious when they are looking at some place in between them and their desk.

Ahh, good teachers... a rare breed indeed.

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I do love the idea of its use for crowd control purposes. Gotta wonder where all the kids go if they cant loiter around their usual places, though. After all, its not like they've given up.

I, for one, hate the damn things, because I sometimes have legitimate business in stores that use them and they give me these pulsing headaches when I hear them for more than a few minutes at a time.
Velocity219e
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Feb 12 2008, 05:07 PM) *
Dear god that's an annoying noise, and I'm 27. I must have good hearing. Lucky me. ohplease.gif


used to have one around the corner on a shop and I could hear it in my back garden about 100 meters away, and when it was on it gave me a headache.

I used to go around every couple of nights and ask them to turn the damned thing off, and they were all righteous about the bumph that you can't hear it if you are over whatever age, and after a while they admitted I usually showed up within five minutes of them switching it on.
Sponge
QUOTE (Malicant @ Feb 10 2008, 07:58 PM) *
That's actually a crappy comparison. Arcana is in line with nuclear physics, and I don't know how many households disappear in a nuclear blast in your neighbourhood, but here where I live that only happens like never.


http://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/10/gamer-b...i-pays-a-visit/
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/mar/radioactive-boy-scout
http://www.radjournal.com/articles/hahn.pdf

nathanross
QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Feb 13 2008, 01:52 PM) *
I, for one, hate the damn things, because I sometimes have legitimate business in stores that use them and they give me these pulsing headaches when I hear them for more than a few minutes at a time.

QUOTE (Velocity219e @ Feb 13 2008, 03:12 PM) *
used to have one around the corner on a shop and I could hear it in my back garden about 100 meters away, and when it was on it gave me a headache.

Damn, I guess the reality for those involved is different. I do like the idea of sound weapons, though. Reminds me of Heart of Darkness.
Ravor
I see some of the parenting classes that are being taught today like "Love & Logic" being VERY popular among those with Awakened Children, especially those that have manged to teach themselves the art of tossing around fireballs.
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