Does that rule really make sense, though? I mean, I can see Type O not giving a bonus effect for second hand cyber, but not being able to take it? That just seems a little weird to me.

I think that's just there to prevent abuse. I'd probably handle it like so: Implantation somehow changes generic bioware ever so slightly, so that it is no longer completely generic. Therefore, someone with Type O would treat used bioware in all ways as though they did not have the type O quality. Now they can, for sanity's sake, but no one ever will, which is back to the original intention.

Medical Fluff to follow...

The reason for this is Type-O is the universal doner, the majority of bio-ware is Type-O so that anyone can use it. Unfortunately, like with blood types, a universal doner can ONLY receive Type-O organs. Something that is second-hand has come out of someone else, and aligned itself with their body type so it will no longer be Type-O, and their body will reject it. But when we can vat grow organs, it makes sense to grow them as Type-O, as well if we can make synthetic blood we will make it Type-O so that it is universal in its applications.

Type-O is a rare trait for people, since it is a recessive trait, there's a good chance by 2070 there will be very few people with this trait, being effectively bred out of society. So a Type-O person would only be able to use a second-hand organ from a Type-O person, making it very difficult to find. Since this organ would be a Type-O organ, to come from a Type-O person, it actually wouldn't be considered second-hand because it could be used universally by anyone. Type-O people can sell their organs and make good money, because their organs wouldn't count as second-hand. Getting cybered could potentially make money for a Type-O person if you use a legit hospital.

I guess it does make sense, then. Nevermind!

Bite me! I was trying to help the conversation by keeping everyone on the same page, seeing as you 'had no books and were trying to hold up your end with a fistful of bullshit.



Used 'ware has a -1 to Availability, which when applied to Muscle Augmentation's normal Availability of 4 still means that rating 2 is the maximum rating at chargen.

Now, im no expert on Availability rules, since we dont use em at Chargen and have only really tried to buy in game easier to get stuff, so bear with me here.

But Muscle Augmentation and Toner has Availability of 5x Rating. So, by RAW, with Availability of 12, it's max is 2.

But Used is -1, making it 4. 4x3=12, so technically, if you got used Aug and Toner(ok, that's just...icky, but for the sake of argument), you could have it at rating 3, unless i'm misreading something?

I think it would be (5xRating)-1, not (5-1)xRating.

DS

ElFenrir: What makes you think it isn't -1 to the total Availability of the item, instead of -1 per rating point of the item? For example, Muscle Toner 2 would be Availability 10, but used that same rating 2 'ware would have an Availability of 1 less, or 9.

Ahh, alrighty then. It's cool; i was reading it a little incorrectly.

Could still come in handy in-game if that one less Availability means you get your new hand faster. If you don't mind it...secondh...erm, yeah.