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Blue eyes
Plenty of great suggestions on this thread. Looking forward to Feral cities, Ghost Cartels and Runner's companion. Hope to see some information on these upcoming books on the official homepage soon, as promised awhile ago by Adam smile.gif

Beyond that it will be very interesting to see what will come out next year, I'm still hoping for some proper focus on Amazonia and The Caribbean League, but there has been plenty of good suggestion on this thread that sound great, especially an updated Shadowbeat.

TW
QUOTE (Cheops @ May 3 2008, 05:42 PM) *
Cities of Legacy

A mixture of Archaeology of the 6th World mixed with T:AL formatted along the same lines as the other city books.


That would be Awakened Haunts, which is somewhere on the release schedule. Somewhere meaning after Feral Cities but before Centers of Intrigue
kanislatrans
I would like to see a book entitled "The Fluff Handbook" that would be fulled with random names, places, and products of the 6th world. I have some stuff I would gladly send in and the only thing I would want in return is a thank you . (and maybe my name in the credits). Hez, there's enough talent here on the boards to write it all. Our esteemed and illustrious Developers would just have to arrange, edit and typeset it and they would have a ready to publish book for practically nothing!. spin.gif spin.gif
Prime Mover
QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ May 3 2008, 11:11 AM) *
The focus of Running Wild was originally to be basically the Savage Species of Shadowrun. But with all the extra goodies being shifted into Runner's Companion, it seems that the focus of Running Wild is moving back to a Paranormal Animals book, though I would bet actual money that you'll see some tie ins with Augmentation.


Feral Cities is a location book based on lawless hellholes. Chicago receives top billing.
Cities of Intrigue is a location book based on espionage. London is highly expected by most.
Strange Places is a location book based on far out stuff. Probable inclusions would be one of the space stations, one of the undersea bases, and one of the metaplanar staging areas. Other contenders include the Antarctic City dig, Lhasa, and Alice Springs.

War Zones is a proposed book which is a combination location book and Fields of Fire update for SR4. Balkans, Central Africa, Central America, and Southeast Asia are obvious chapter headers.
The Monofilament Edge is a proposed book which is a combination of Awakenings and Shadowtech for SR4. Like a SotA book, but crunchier and crazier. Like Lugosi and Karloff crazier.
Destroying News is a proposed book which is a combination of Shadowbeat and Neo Anarchists Guide to Real Life. Meme warfare from street level up to nation building. Kind of a Horizon plot-book too I think.

No idea if the last ones are going forward, but I hope so.

-Frank


War Zones, The Monofilament Edge and Killing News. These would be great additions to the line up, definetly run out and buy the first day kinda books.
kanislatrans
QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 3 2008, 07:17 PM) *
I think i just never got over the archetype art being so very not good. *sigh*
I guess i'll have to bum around for a 1st ed book, just to round out my collection.


The art in SR1 was the best shadowrun art ever!! Just as SR1(or as we purists prefer to call it"the only 1" ) is the best version of shadowrun ever. All other versions are to be considered Heresy and are to be ridiculed , derided and crushed beneath the feet of the true doctrine of SR the only one!


To borrow a quote from one of our most famous members,President George Bush," you're either with us or you're...umm....ah...not with us."

Long live Sr the only one! Power to the Purists!!

where's my T-shirt?? spin.gif spin.gif
Leofski
Killing News sounds absolutely awesome.

DocTaotsu
QUOTE (kanislatrans @ May 4 2008, 07:32 AM) *
The art in SR1 was the best shadowrun art ever!! Just as SR1(or as we purists prefer to call it"the only 1" ) is the best version of shadowrun ever. All other versions are to be considered Heresy and are to be ridiculed , derided and crushed beneath the feet of the true doctrine of SR the only one!


To borrow a quote from one of our most famous members,President George Bush," you're either with us or you're...umm....ah...not with us."

Long live Sr the only one! Power to the Purists!!

where's my T-shirt?? spin.gif spin.gif


Seriously. I hope CGL does well enough that they can start looking at some putting out some merch. I would be totally down to buy some SR t-shirts.

Hell, if they'd put out a shirt that had a small DocWagon logo on the front and "HTR" printed across the back, I'd buy enough for my whole table smile.gif
CanRay
Shadowrun Corporate T-Shirts and Baseball Caps would ROCK!

Be perfect for getting into character!

Or, perhaps, for some of the teams. I'd love a "Seattle Seadogs" T-Shirt!
DocTaotsu
Nah, if we want to stay true to Shadowruns Japanacorps roots.

Corporate lapel pins. What I'd give to throw an Ares or Renraku pin on a nice suit, if only for the confusion factor.
CanRay
Pins are a bit more pricey to do than T-Shirts, hense the suggestion.
Snow_Fox
The books I've always loved the most are the ones that are mre about the world in which people live, the little stuff like clothes and neighborhoods and the thingsthat exist outside the shadows. My favoirte such books are : Neoarnarchists Guide to Real Life, Shadowbeat and the SOTA's.
Adam
We'll be doing some more t-shirts this year, for sure; and probably reprinting the Saeder-Krupp shirt that we sold out of at Gen Con last year.
Zak
QUOTE (Adam @ May 4 2008, 03:08 PM) *
We'll be doing some more t-shirts this year, for sure; and probably reprinting the Saeder-Krupp shirt that we sold out of at Gen Con last year.


Wrong thread? nyahnyah.gif

Now get me a T-Shirt
Adam
QUOTE (Zak @ May 4 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Wrong thread? nyahnyah.gif

No nyahnyah.gif

QUOTE
Now get me a T-Shirt

Ah yes, demands. The gamer's favorite way of trying to motivate people to work on a Sunday... wink.gif
Zak
thought it was for the merch thread biggrin.gif

and yea, I'm good at negative motivation. talker.gif
Stahlseele
why isn't there a webshop or something like that in which people who don't own means of electronic payment can buy things in? <.< . .
not everybody in germany has a credit card or something like that . . and even if it were a little bit more costly, make it so one can combine shirts of different sizes/styles and colours with pictures/logos from the SR World . . you want a white long-sleeve with the Renraku Symbol on the back? okay, here you go . . you want a black one with the Saeder-Krupp Logo on the Front? delivery will take some days . .
Adam
We don't have the resources/volume to do "print on demand" shirts like that without outsourcing it to companies with dodgy quality levels, and the profit margin on t-shirts is pretty slim as it is.

I've thrown around some ideas inside the company to make the t-shirt production process better, and I hope it gets rolled out later this year. However, unless we can make a great licensing deal with someone [and we're always open to that sort of opportunity], shirts and merch are going to be treated as they are: low profit items that have a fair amount of 'demand', with sales figures not near as high as the demand would seem to indicate, except at conventions.
CanRay
*Sighs* And the only conventions I can go to are local ones. frown.gif

Winnipeg is big, but not big enough it appears...
Adam
Big enough to have an airport! wink.gif
CanRay
Yeah, but I'm poor. nyahnyah.gif

Honestly, I should hunt up some Johnsons here.

Or write up how the Winnipeg Shadows works, and beg for a T-Shirt in exchange for it.
Fortune
Or move! wink.gif
CanRay
OK, whiny Canuck moment over, back to book and t-shirt lusting.

Sorry for the inturrupt, folks.
the_dunner
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 4 2008, 05:48 PM) *
why isn't there a webshop or something like that in which people who don't own means of electronic payment can buy things in? <.< . .

Maybe it's different in the US from the rest of the world, but here, any bank (and most convenience stores) will be more than happy to sell you a pre-paid Visa or Mastercard "gift card." Yes, there's a processing fee, but if you're looking for a way to spend money on the web, and you don't have a credit card, this seems like an awfully straightforward solution.
Fuchs
Is it allowed to pick your favorite SR picture/log combo, and print your own shirt for private use (i.e. not selling it)?
FrankTrollman
QUOTE
Is it allowed to pick your favorite SR picture/log combo, and print your own shirt for private use (i.e. not selling it)?


As far as I know, yes. But perhaps not for long.

-Frank
Aaron
QUOTE (Redspork @ Apr 30 2008, 06:04 PM) *
"The Pornomancer's Guide to Getting Everything You Want and More" grinbig.gif

... as a pop-up book.
Prime Mover
I'd go for a good quality baseball cap, black with the blue S logo.

Edit: Always wanted some custom SR dice too. Remember a pic floating around of some home made ones.
SIN
I'd just like to throw my support behind pretty much all of the exciting sounding fluff books people are suggesting/are on the horizon, particularly Destroying/Killing News and Strange Places.

In a semi-aside, I'd also really like any new fluff books to cover all of the important stuff for players who haven't read previous SR sourcebooks. As an example; after recommendations in another thread, I went out and bought Shadows of Europe and The Sprawl Survival Guide. SSG was great, possibly the most enjoyable SR book I've read, and I didn't need much/any prior knowledge of SR to get the most from it, but SoE was a little disappointing and felt a bit like a 3rd ed. "top-up" book for people who'd read previous Europe sourcebooks. I still got a lot of good stuff from SoE, but I was left feeling a bit like I was being punished for not having played SR since Year 0. I'm not saying that long term players shouldn't be catered to/rewarded, but I'm sure this can be done without alienating us relative n00bs.

Out of interest, how are the current two fluff books (Runner Havens and Corporate Enclaves) in regards to this? I'm more interested in RH, Seattle being every runner's spiritual home, but don't want to feel as though I ought to have read previous edition's material on Seattle to get the most from it.

SIN
Wesley Street
QUOTE (Fortune @ May 3 2008, 06:12 PM) *
First edition had the crayon archetypes. Most of the rest of the art was pretty good though.


*cough* IlikethosecrayonarchetypesJeffLubensteinrules *cough*

biggrin.gif
Drogos
I really enjoyed Runner's Havens, but the Seattle section was greatly helped by reading the previous editions' Seattle books. It was however adequate to run in the city with a little RL legwork. And the Hong Kong section was much the same. The teasers in the back were just that...and I have to say I loved them for it.

Frank's list of the three proposed books make me salivate. I would definately grab those.
DocTaotsu
RH is a mixed bag for me. I loved pretty much ever bit of it... except Seattle which was the main reason I got it in the first place. It gives a really general overview of Seattle but it's not nearly as fluffy as I would have liked. The Ork Underground, which is probably my favorite hallmark of Shadowrun mythos, got shorted as far as I'm concerned.

Corporate Enclaves is a good reference for all those places your runners probably shouldn't be hanging around in. To that ends it's pretty awesome, reading about how oppressive and white washed corporate towns are is enough to keep most of my runners firmly in more "runner friendly" districts. It's a good foil to Runner Haven, which I suspect was the point.
CanRay
Keep out of the Corporate Towns, save for Biz.

Then get out ASAP! Preferably quietly for both!

...

*Sighs* Knowing Shadowrunners...
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