Skillwires.

If a body has skillwires, you can control all physical parts of the body. Typically the signal comes from a chip, goes through the brain and out into the nerve systems.

If however, the signal can be fed in at the top of the spinal cord, and you could write a Pilot human program, then you could rig someone just fine. Even if you were actually the brain inside the head of the body.

Look to bunrako parlors for the programming technology needed. They are able to slip their "workers" a chip that makes them react to given stimuli within the reaction patterns programmed into the personachip.

Mkay, so now we have a situation where, instead of a chip with a static persona and goals, you have a hacker who feeds new goals and actions to the body on the fly. Ie. a rigger.

Some unholy hybrid of skillwires and control software and you'd be set.

In SR 3 there were rules that allowed this wasn't there?

Jarhead transplant costs 250.000:nuyen: alone...meaning that at char-gen I can become a brain in a jar like those on Futurama...and that's it.
So it is not doable.

Bio-Drone rigging is affordable, but has a steep Availability of 25...meaning I can't have it at char-gen.
(Too bad, it was the easier way )

I'm left with good old Cyberware, that IS expansive, but I originally miscalculated it as being even more expansive than it actually is.
So, now I'm trying THIS road.

I'm a human.
I get Alphaware cyber -legs -arms and -torso; the cyberskull has availability 16 so I can't have it.
Anyway now I have a completely mechanical body, or at least enough of it that I assume I can manouver it as a de-facto anthropomorph drone.
(jumping-in to just an arm while the rest of the body collapses doesn't seem very bright or usefull)

QUESTION: how do I equip it? as a cyber-body, or as a Drone?
Arsenal uses a Slot system, while BBB and Augmentation use the normal Capacity system ... how do they blend?

I'm inclined to assume that they overlap.

In Arsenal you can mount a robotic full arm on a drone/vehicle and the book says that you can fit it with cyberware.
On the other hand, drone/vehicle equipment comes in so many sizes that can be mounted on even insect-sized devices, and cat-sized divices, and human sized (and shaped!) devices...so it SHOULD also be mountable on a cybernetic body.

So...following this ideas...

Should I use drone/vehicle slots to mount a Rigger Adaptation Mod in the cyber body?
I assume all drones have one already fitted.
But does my own cyber-body needs one?
I would say "YES".
That's because a normal cyber-body (even just one cyber-limb) is built to receive command signals directly from the user's brain.
I am trying to "disconnect" the brain-to-nervous system chain of communication, overriding it with a VR environment simulation that will give me an edge...all my commands will go through the Command Rig, and all body inputs likewise will get to me through the same Rig ... to make the machine-body talk to the Rig I assume I will have to Adapt it.
Just like a car...using a rig middle interface instead of the "direct" wheel steering.

First, make all sensors have a rating. The cost, if they don't have a rating as currently written, will be Rating x base cost. So for instance a rating 1 camera would be 50, and a rating 6 would be 300. Each upgrade (like lowlight, vision enhancement, etc) costs 1 capacity. I think ratings should stay capped at 6, because riggers will become retardedly accurate otherwise -- If you have 6(8 ) gunnery + 2 smartlink + 6 sensors + 6 for active targetting, that's 20 dice. If you let ratings go up to, say, 12, riggers won't be physically able to miss using active targetting.

The forum is impossible to use...my previous post was made long before Jaid posted -_-
I have to say that what Jaid says makes a lot of sense, but then what about those people in the "bunrako parlors"?
Maybe they were not controlled by the persona-chip, but only personality-sculpted...like...I am me, and I control my body, but the chip influences my personality?

basically, yes. that and the fact that the bunraku dolls are controlled with addiction, threats of horrible things happening to them should they attempt to fight back, a lack of any other way to survive, etc.

Stupid question, but... If I have a Control Rig, do I still need a dataport? o_O
Same question, but with a Cyber-Commlink?

Peter F Hamilton does something similar in one of his short stories...
...The person has a major accident, and his brain is installed in a fighting machine [which wins its fights because of something no-one can copy], running the body as a drone the rest of the time [which is twitchy and not very well co-ordinated].

the general idea that makes this so damn awesome is i think the ability to put your brain in a jar and place that jar on a flying drone with arms so you can switch bodies like other people switch guns . . hey, i'm tiny! hey, i am that huge fragging tank! hey,i am a birdy! hey, i am that flying fortress! hey, i am that badass robot punching dragons!

by the way, you can't technically make human biodrones.

Each CAST implant is designed for a specific type of animal.

The price given in the table below assumes a fish, bird, or mammal brain, accessing senses that exist in natural animals.

CAST systems for primates or other animals of higher intelligence are substantially more expensive (at least twice the listed cost). The gamemaster should use his discretion on whether the device in question should be permitted and what it should cost.

Stirrup Interface: This interface is based on an advanced move-by-wire system (p. 40) and provides all of the same bonuses and benefits, including the embedded skillwire system. Additionally, it adds a remote control rig adaptation that allows a rigger to both monitor the exact movements of the animal as well as to “jump in” and control it directly through full-immersion VR.
The subject animal may make full use of its own faculties and skills, except when the rigger is “jumped in.” A rigger jumped into the recipient will use his own skills at a –1 dice pool penalty when performing any actions. The recipient can be controlled by a specialized Pilot program, but then functions exactly like a regular drone.

Probably a stupid question, but I know nothing about hacking - I'm thinking, as long as a person has a direct neural link or interface of some kind + skill-wires, would it not be possible to code or hack a way to "ride" that person through their link and skillwires?

Since riggers in hot sim take biofeedback damage every time the drone that they are rigging is hit, wouldn't rigging your own body effectively multiply all damage that you take by 1.5? as you resist it with body and armor, take the damage, then resist that damage again with willpower + biofeedback. True, the second set of damage is stun, but every little bit hurts.