sunnyside
Sep 28 2008, 06:39 PM
See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment...re_Rating_BoardIf you don't know the ratings. Usually ratings come with "reasons" (scroll down in the wiki to see a list). If you want to share your "content descriptors" you'll just have to post those.
Next question is "why," is it integral to the plot? Players just like a little gore?
Note that a lot of this will come down to how you describe things as well as exactly what happens. For example Legend of Zelda is rated "E", but Link spends plenty of time going around knifing people left and right(and possibly eating their hearts
). If you describe damage purely in terms of "boxes of damage" your game could qualify as "E".
Similarly I seem to recall that you can have kids with a woman in Harvest Moon, but I bet that's rated "E" as well.
BullZeye
Sep 28 2008, 06:49 PM
Most of the time the game is suitable for almost everyone but occasionally the ass pieces fly around or kids are being chopped to pieces. Usually the gore comes from the actions of players. I try to keep the actions of NPCs on bit lower level of violence but I won't deny players for any action they want to make a mess out of something. But when the shit hits the fan, I won't describe it in too much detail, so my vote is M+.
Ryu
Sep 28 2008, 07:02 PM
I´d put my game at M+, too. Gore is sometimes described, as one of the players has choosen a combat medic/face function.
masterofm
Sep 28 2008, 07:17 PM
I would rate my game RP. Hell we would have to finish it up to find out what rating it would be in the end.
psychophipps
Sep 28 2008, 07:22 PM
Got ourselves an AO here. Would probably be an M+ but our Pornomancer is literal in this case and the player of her is a hentai freak.
MJBurrage
Sep 28 2008, 07:45 PM
I am surprised at all the Adult Only votes, I can't think of much that I would not consider worse than M.
And the normal violence of SR is not more than T (even when well described).
Now with plot points, I can definitely go into M territory. Runs against fetus farms, and other biotech in a similar vein that would bother parents of even some young teens.
Muspellsheimr
Sep 28 2008, 08:04 PM
M+
I was considering Adults Only, due to occasional nudity & rare mild pornography, but the scenes are typically glossed over, & never described in detail.
Edit:
When I am playing Seraph, one of my Adepts, the game probably deserves an Adult rating - I mean, what do you expect from a sex addict assassin who's hobbies include rape & torture?
TKDNinjaInBlack
Sep 28 2008, 08:05 PM
Mature:
While it's not overly violent or laced with sexuality (the only thing we've run so far is "On the Run"), the players like to go that little extra step. I'd consider on the run about a Teen rating, but every now and then the players like to take it up to M with the sexual innuendo and violence towards minors. Not a lot of gore though. They've been more than awesome about not geeking anyone. But our raccoon shaman / elven face loves implied sexuality towards almost any female he comes across... and he rolls enough dice to make them like it. Our married (with a real SIN and everything) troll bounty hunter and our ork martial artist/rec leader love to rough up the youth (in On the Run there's a group of BTLed out kids guarding Delphia). The bounty hunter hates drugs and corruption of the youth, so he got a bit angry with some of their lack of respect and lack of insight into the sources of their drugs and firearms, and after they started freaking out, our rec leader (martial arts teacher) jumped out and beat one down proving that "sometimes, you just gotta beat a kid to show them their place." I couldn't fathom that they would have to chase Delphia after beating a couple of kids and scaring away the rest. Nothing graphic, but the ESRB sure as hell doesn't like any violence towards kids.
sunnyside
Sep 28 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Sep 28 2008, 03:45 PM)
I am surprised at all the Adult Only votes, I can't think of much that I would not consider worse than M.
The things that would typically be doing it are Intense Violence, Sexual Violence, and maybe Strong Sexual Content.
Personally I seriously shy away from the strong sexual content and engage in some hand waving there. That's just darn awkward.
Sometimes things stray into the "intense violence" regime, but there have been a small number of sexual violence incidences that the ESRB wouldn't let slide.
QUOTE
And the normal violence of SR is not more than T (even when well described).
Yeah, but it pushes it. And somehow the recent video game got an M rating. Not sure how.
MJBurrage
Sep 28 2008, 08:40 PM
I voted assuming that:
- eC = G
- E = PG
- T = PG-13
- M = R
- Ao = NC-17
I see now that game ratings are even more puritanical than film ratings. Based on the full descriptions, my games are actually M+ or Ao, but that is because my games have PG-13 violence and R themes.
Wesley Street
Sep 28 2008, 08:42 PM
M+. Profanity, rampant drug use/abuse, adult situations, verbal descriptions of naughty bits, and graphic sci-fi violence. But no worse than, say, Grand Theft Auto IV and much of it is tongue-in-cheek.
PhishStyx
Sep 28 2008, 08:51 PM
AO definitely, between the intense and frequent violence & the graphic descriptions of troll/dwarf sex* from one of the players (plus his anal insertion jokes), my game clears that bar easily.
On the other hand, I'm a longtime Ironwood player, so the distinctions are somewhat moot.
* Our dwarf combat mage has a severe sexual addiction and a troll girlfriend.
Cantankerous
Sep 28 2008, 09:05 PM
Straddles the line of M+ and AO. We don't dwell on the gore, but the game is grim, gritty, with kiddie porn slavery rings, chop shops and the jaded tastes of jaded people used to make the PCs hate the enemy sometimes, as well as the even more gritty disregard for life that the corps often display. It's cyberpunk after all.
Isshia
sunnyside
Sep 29 2008, 08:44 AM
QUOTE (PhishStyx @ Sep 28 2008, 03:51 PM)
AO definitely, between the intense and frequent violence & the graphic descriptions of troll/dwarf sex* from one of the players (plus his anal insertion jokes), my game clears that bar easily.
On the other hand, I'm a longtime Ironwood player, so the distinctions are somewhat moot.
* Our dwarf combat mage has a severe sexual addiction and a troll girlfriend.
Out of curiosity, and this goes for the whole graphic sex crowd, how the heck does that work at the table?
I have no idea how that could be anything but weird.
Well, OK, I guess if everybodies single, there are mixed genders, and your groups just kinda kinky maybe.
psychophipps
Sep 29 2008, 09:30 AM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Sep 29 2008, 01:44 AM)
Out of curiosity, and this goes for the whole graphic sex crowd, how the heck does that work at the table?
I have no idea how that could be anything but weird.
Well, OK, I guess if everybody's single, there are mixed genders, and your groups just kinda kinky maybe.
The basis for our AO is the fact that our pornomancer likes to torture people while they're strapped onto a S&M table supplied by our new contact at a full-on no-tell motel chain. Insert a few orifice-based unpleasantnesses and some graphic, if largely academic, detail (and the occasional happy ending for being a "good boy") and you have yourself an X rating according to the chart given. It also doesn't help that the Occult Investigator is a Swinger Dom, either, but them's the breaks.
It
is kind of weird to hear the repressed sexual urges of your friends come to light but it's through the filter of a character, and once the initial shock (a few courses in human sexuality help as well) wears off it's just part of the game. Some people see any and all sex as a very private thing but my group doesn't so much.
Fuchs
Sep 29 2008, 11:04 AM
M here. Although there's no graphic description of sex/body parts, and violence is not that detailed either ("You splatter his brains over the wall"), the implied nudity, sex and violence in a session would put it into M or even AO if it was a movie and all the "Ok, my character has some fun in the bedroom" and "I empty my clip into the suit" lines would be shown as scenes.
Nigel
Sep 29 2008, 11:12 AM
M+, because when I play my Face I tend to...violently reprogram people. Literally.
Also, the blood van. Story's in spoilers for those of weaker constitution.
[ Spoiler ]
One of our group was playing a street sam that used a Monowhip a lot. We were hired to take out a rather insignificant gang in Seattle, and we were about halfway there (yes, this was a VERY wetwork mission). So we were in the Barrens and we had several gangers trying to hold a pass against us: snipers on rooftops (taken care of by me, my aforementioned Face/Rigger), shooters on the ground (some taken care of by me, running them over in the van, and some killed by our sam and sniper), and some enemies that were still in their van. So Mr. Monowhip jumps out of my van, runs over to the enemy van, goes inside the cargo area and resealed it, and proceeds to swing around his monowhip. In an enclosed space. To summarize the scene which would take a lot of typing: insta-death for everyone but him. After we were done fighting, our sam went over to the newly-christened Blood Van and opened the back doors. Blood which was up to Monowhip's ankles poured out, and our other sam soiled himself and passed out. The outside of this white van also had splatters of blood, due to the monowhip cutting lines in the side accidentally. We washed it off and brought it back to my character's shop, cleaned it up, and now use it as secondary/barrens transportation, for when I load up on drones (A steel lynx with a minigun makes surprisingly good in-battle transportation - I need to tell that story another time). Oh, and we kept one enemy alive for questioning. A day later we remembered him and took him out of my Westwind's trunk, strapped him down, and proceeded to interrogate him. We got more plot stuff, which is pointless to recount. To get the information, we were...ahem..."forced" to dangle a monowhip over his legs, threatening him with it. That got him speaking. -Side note-The monowhip user rolled a glitch on his Agility test to let it just break the skin for severed nerves, and cut off his legs because he slipped. Vicious stuff, that monowire.-Side note- I thought he might've had more, though, so I rolled another Intimidation check. I got something in the order of 15-20 hits after spending Edge, and terrified the absolute shit out of him. Before I go on, let me remind you that this character is utterly twisted and depraved, even moreso after this incident.
We erased his old identity and most of his old mind, leaving him with basic survival and speech skills, and put in a new identity. Then we drove him (in the Blood Van) to a street doc anonymously, and let him get figured out. Months later, our characters hear news of him after moving to Japan somewhere...apparently he wanted vengeance. I haven't played that character since, so I have no idea what comes next, but I want to know what happens.
On second thought...perhaps AO. You tell me.
Cantankerous
Sep 29 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 29 2008, 01:04 PM)
M here. Although there's no graphic description of sex/body parts, and violence is not that detailed either ("You splatter his brains over the wall"), the implied nudity, sex and violence in a session would put it into M or even AO if it was a movie and all the "Ok, my character has some fun in the bedroom" and "I empty my clip into the suit" lines would be shown as scenes.
If the above would qualify as M, then put us down there too. But since the group once broke up a kiddie porn slavery ring, the end scene being while shooting was in progress and one of the characters proceeded then to geld two of the primary operators... Really, we rarely get anywhere near that graphic, but it had to have been cathartic for the Player involved, who seemed grimly satisfied throughout the rest of the session.
There is a former druggie/prostitute decker, in our latest game, who still has half a dozen connections in the seamier side of the 'Plex Underworld who is after one of the NPCs, and the Elf Faceman is apt to put the moves on anyone who is described as appealing and (and sometimes or) interesting, but the sex, when it occurs, is "off camera". So, what does that all make us? M+ or AO or even just M? To be honest I'm not sure we rate consistently enough to have a single rating for our Shadowrun games.
Isshia
sunnyside
Sep 29 2008, 12:11 PM
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:04 AM)
M here. Although there's no graphic description of sex/body parts, and violence is not that detailed either ("You splatter his brains over the wall"), the implied nudity, sex and violence in a session would put it into M or even AO if it was a movie and all the "Ok, my character has some fun in the bedroom" and "I empty my clip into the suit" lines would be shown as scenes.
I'd say rate as you describe. Again Legend of Zelda is E, but if you made a live action version where the guards link stabs spout blood everywhere you'd be at least to M, and if their hearts actually pop out you might get up to AO.
QUOTE (Cantankerous @ Sep 29 2008, 07:40 AM)
There is a former druggie/prostitute decker, in our latest game, who still has half a dozen connections in the seamier side of the 'Plex Underworld who is after one of the NPCs, and the Elf Faceman is apt to put the moves on anyone who is described as appealing and (and sometimes or) interesting, but the sex, when it occurs, is "off camera". So, what does that all make us? M+ or AO or even just M? To be honest I'm not sure we rate consistently enough to have a single rating for our Shadowrun games.
Keeping things off camera should keep in you in the M range, maybe even T but probably not. Gelding (reasonably off cameraish and isolated) should put you into M+.
Sounds like a fair number of GMs are like me in that we didn't neccesarily intend for things to go AO.
For example I thought to myself, "OK the guys should refuse this run on moral grounds."
I was wrong...
/sunnyside flees the memories and goes to his happy place.
Ravor
Sep 29 2008, 12:31 PM
My vision of the Sixth World is one where the moral fiber of society has long since decayed to the point where Joe Sixpack sees nothing wrong with recording simporn of his preteen daughter in order to fuel both of their snuff BTL habits and everyone is simply too numb to even consider the idea that anything is wrong.
"Illegal" Bloodsports are played openly in various bars and are in fact part of the draw for Joe Blow. In fact "reality TV" style bloodsports are the norm despite being "illegal".
The corps by and large don't even pretend to follow the edicts of mere governments, worker's rights? Civil Liberties? Eniviromental Regulations? Bah! Meaningless drek even for the smaller corps.
Even SINners only have access to the "rights" their wallets can afford, corps can and do make people disappear everyday.
Even in the better parts of the sprawl a wageslave walking to work will see five muggings, three murders, and two rapes.
sunnyside
Sep 29 2008, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 29 2008, 07:31 AM)
My vision of the Sixth World is one where the moral fiber of society has long since decayed to the point where Joe Sixpack sees nothing wrong with recording simporn of his preteen daughter in order to fuel both of their snuff BTL habits and everyone is simply too numb to even consider the idea that anything is wrong.
"Illegal" Bloodsports are played openly in various bars and are in fact part of the draw for Joe Blow. In fact "reality TV" style bloodsports are the norm despite being "illegal".
The corps by and large don't even pretend to follow the edicts of mere governments, worker's rights? Civil Liberties? Eniviromental Regulations? Bah! Meaningless drek even for the smaller corps.
Even SINners only have access to the "rights" their wallets can afford, corps can and do make people disappear everyday.
Even in the better parts of the sprawl a wageslave walking to work will see five muggings, three murders, and two rapes.
Hurm. Not my cup of tea. For one one part of Shadowrun is that mostly it "makes sense" that many murders and such on the way to work would tend to tear down society.
For the other things once stuff is legal and common it takes all the fun out of it.
raggedhalo
Sep 29 2008, 03:20 PM
M-
There's plenty of bad language flying round, infrequent drug use (one of the PCs is addicted to Long Haul, another uses combat drugs semi-regularly), infrequent sex (although there's loads in some sessions, there's usually not very much at all) including homosexuality, pretty horrible/gory violence in about 75% of sessions...
Ravor
Sep 29 2008, 03:26 PM
That is the entire point, society in the Sixth World is on it's last legs and the only thing keeping true and total ancharcy at bay is a thin film of corp propagana.
Ravor
Sep 29 2008, 03:35 PM
Basically everwhere is "Barrens Lite", the only difference is that the people cowering in their flats pay protection money to thugs with badges instead of thugs with colors.
Well, the utilities are probably more realible, but even in the heart of the city power/water is rationed unless you are one of the lucky "haves".
Wesley Street
Sep 29 2008, 03:42 PM
QUOTE (sunnyside @ Sep 29 2008, 09:58 AM)
Hurm. Not my cup of tea. For one one part of Shadowrun is that mostly it "makes sense" that many murders and such on the way to work would tend to tear down society.
Ditto. I try to maintain some sense of plausibility when it comes to street crime. When it degenerates into mucho-rape-o-kill-o fest the setting turns into
Mad Max.
Cantankerous
Sep 29 2008, 05:55 PM
We don't go so far as Ravor, but we too stress the disintegration of values, albeit MUCH more strongly at the very top and very bottom of the social ladders. For us a Corp Exec can be inhumanly jaded, and the guy supporting his habit has lost basically all morals... if he holds back at all it is out of fear of the law or the local "law" of the jungle getting him for it. But 85%+ of the population isn't THAT far gone. They simply turn away from much of what happens, refusing, even as happens today, to believe these things really occur, or when they do believe it, feeling that they are impotent to stop it or even be heard if they rail against it.
In the worst areas of town, there ARE (sometimes, not every day) things going on below the radar that are sickening, and in the weekend pleasure palaces of the ultra rich only their desires, and lives, have any value.
Isshia
Dumori
Sep 29 2008, 08:54 PM
I'd have to say Ao as i describe some vilocne very graphically child solders burning alive after 50 napalm loaded rockets fill the air around them in to a raging inferno. Makes me thing M+ is pushing it. In some games manhunt looks family friendly but there are gutter to the extrem. Some games I play are T M- but thee are more the pro-black ops games. where as the gritty or mrec ones are not more graphic just the vilience is more extrem or just more common.
sunnyside
Sep 29 2008, 09:47 PM
It could just be joke votes. But I'm curious what happens in the FBI games.
I'm pretty sure they can't actually bust you. Annonymity and all.
Dumori
Sep 29 2008, 10:06 PM
I believe they're LARP game with real fire arms and the NPCa don't know there playing.
But honesty I want to know as well. Unless they just go in to deatial when making drugs, bombs or hacking.
Uli
Sep 29 2008, 11:11 PM
I try to portray my Noir inspired ideas of the existentialist dilemma in a transhuman environment. As player as well as GM. Doesn't always work out, but our campaigns circle around human misery and insoluable tragedies lightened up by the occasional gray-white moral triumphs and trivialized by hardly dramatized combats. Most of the time we are beyond pubertal violence and tough guy fantasies. On the other hand we don't always feel like depressingly gloomy game style - it finally depends on the atmossphere that we can create.
To the torture thing:
Since my group and me find the extreme emotional and physical situation of mental and/or physical torture very unpleasant and very hard to play adequately, we have a silent agreement to not describe very brutal scenes. We limit us to beatings and smaller threats/bluffs.
Ravor
Sep 30 2008, 01:16 AM
I would assume that the FBI Games tend to deal more along the line of terrorist plots than your typical Shadowruns.... nah ... they are probably just jokes.
BishopMcQ
Sep 30 2008, 01:45 AM
Rated M for Mature.
Actual violence varies by run, from ghosting the entire scenario to kicking down the doors with monofilament chainsaws and flamethrowers. A consistent theme though is the mature content and ideas. Murder, rape and torture happen. While the PCs may steer away from crimes involving children, the NPCs don't always have the same compunction.
It should be noted that these events don't happen regularly-to really have an impact, the most horrific actions need to have time to develop and brew. If a sexual deviant who became one of the Infected shows up every week, the PCs and the players become desensitized to the horror.
Platinum Dragon
Sep 30 2008, 02:36 AM
QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 29 2008, 10:31 PM)
My vision of the Sixth World is one where the moral fiber of society has long since decayed to the point where Joe Sixpack sees nothing wrong with recording simporn of his preteen daughter in order to fuel both of their snuff BTL habits and everyone is simply too numb to even consider the idea that anything is wrong.
"Illegal" Bloodsports are played openly in various bars and are in fact part of the draw for Joe Blow. In fact "reality TV" style bloodsports are the norm despite being "illegal".
The corps by and large don't even pretend to follow the edicts of mere governments, worker's rights? Civil Liberties? Eniviromental Regulations? Bah! Meaningless drek even for the smaller corps.
Even SINners only have access to the "rights" their wallets can afford, corps can and do make people disappear everyday.
Even in the better parts of the sprawl a wageslave walking to work will see five muggings, three murders, and two rapes.
QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 30 2008, 01:26 AM)
That is the entire point, society in the Sixth World is on it's last legs and the only thing keeping true and total ancharcy at bay is a thin film of corp propagana.
QUOTE (Ravor @ Sep 30 2008, 01:35 AM)
Basically everwhere is "Barrens Lite", the only difference is that the people cowering in their flats pay protection money to thugs with badges instead of thugs with colors.
Well, the utilities are probably more realible, but even in the heart of the city power/water is rationed unless you are one of the lucky "haves".
The problem with the scenario you've described is that it's already gone beyond the point where it collapses. There is only so much the general populace will take before rebelling, even if the people in power are still in control of the armed forces. If it works for you and your group, all well and good, but if I were in your game my suspension of disbelief would be stretched to its limit.
sunnyside
Sep 30 2008, 03:32 AM
Plus I really enjoy the discordant nature of Shadowrun. That you can go from a shoot out in the redmond barrens where starving people were trying to run you down across the border and into a secure Bellevuw mall where a bunch of little girls are throwing out ice cream sundays after only a few bites.
Maybe you watch the SINless run smack into security close to the border. Lacking to sneaky skills and fake SINs the team has. Maybe the girls see too from a higher window and have a little laugh.
The best is when some of the runners start getting pissy about the girls or something.
Then you just have the Johnson call and tell them their payment has been deposited in their offshore account. The payment the runner planned to use on that new piece of cyberware or whatever.
And then you smile at them.
Ravor
Sep 30 2008, 05:04 AM
I disagree because by the time Shadowrun takes place the vast majority of people simply can't remember a time where their reality wasn't the status quo, and the corps do an excellant job of pacifing the population with their verson of bread and circuis, simsense.
Remember that Cyberpunk is a child of the 80s, with all that it entails.
Cantankerous
Sep 30 2008, 07:43 AM
QUOTE (Uli @ Sep 30 2008, 01:11 AM)
To the torture thing:
Since my group and me find the extreme emotional and physical situation of mental and/or physical torture very unpleasant and very hard to play adequately, we have a silent agreement to not describe very brutal scenes. We limit us to beatings and smaller threats/bluffs.
As an aside, with us it doesn't get so much described, other than in broad terms, as noted. There were no graphic details about slowly yanking or whatever, just the cold, "One forearm pressed across the bas***** throat, with the other I render him into a mule" was just about a direct quote. Splash effect descriptions are hardly a useful standard, but sometimes, when things get them deeply enough, outrage is noted. Like the guy who pumped FOUR full clips of EX ammo into a downed opponent from his AK98. The guy was a mafiosi and he wanted to be sure to send them a STRONG message about his extreme displeasure with their burning down a tenement building full of people (43 died in the "tragic fire") so that the land it stood on could be rezoned without the normal payoffs.
Isshia
Wesley Street
Sep 30 2008, 01:55 PM
I find it interesting that of the 53 respondents to this non-scientific poll, the vast majority run Mature or Adults Only-style games. It puts those complaints about "crassness" in the printed 4th Edition material in a new light.
BishopMcQ
Sep 30 2008, 03:24 PM
There were complaints about saying Fuck and other crassness? Damn I've missed an entire subthread of the forums...
Wesley Street
Sep 30 2008, 07:26 PM
Those complaints must have been in that secret Ultraviolet forum I've only heard rumors of. Or they could have just been ghosts in the machine...
sunnyside
Sep 30 2008, 10:33 PM
I remember it being discussed here. The swearing I mean. Most complaints had to do with wanting to run games with younger kids (often the children of the poster).
Part of the rating thing could be that the dumpshock forum is made up of a bunch of older guys mostly. There was an age poll a while back and we're mostly very late twenties and early thirties. Dunno how representative that is of the SR playerbase.
At any rate I do think one of the draws of SR instead of something D20 is the more mature setting. If you picked up this system for that you might as well make the most of it.
Wesley Street
Oct 1 2008, 12:30 AM
McQ's pulling your leg, man.
That argument about profanity/shadowslang breaks out every few weeks.
jklst14
Oct 1 2008, 04:08 PM
I picked Adults Only. We're not excessively graphic or lurid at the table. But sex, violence and all manner of bad things happen in our games (drug use, torture, organlegging, bunraku parlors, illegal experimentation, twisted magic, sexual violence etc...)
It's interesting that this topic came up because I recently made a fake ESRB
disclaimer for our campaign website.
ornot
Oct 1 2008, 05:13 PM
I'd rate my games M+, and that mostly because of the widespread drugs and casual violence, which are in my view part of the setting. I don't tend to describe the violence vividly because I just don't have the energy to come up with fresh descriptions all the time. Similarly with sex since it doesn't generally move the plot along, I gloss over it.
sunnyside
Oct 2 2008, 04:19 AM
Phooey the E10+ didn't share either. Ah well. Could have been a joke.
TKDNinjaInBlack
Oct 3 2008, 01:13 AM
So we're mostly running it on an M+ or AO rating, but how would you rate the world from the adventures and what the devs put forth? I mean in "On the Run" there's mention of an Atzlaner snuff BTL that while it doesn't go into much detail, it gives enough to let you know it's at bare minimum a Mature game... not to mention rampant drug use amongst children/teens.
wind_in_the_stones
Oct 5 2008, 05:27 PM
Funny this should come up. Usually, our games are pretty tame, with the most graphic happenings being the application of bolt cutters to fingers during interrogation sessions. Last week, however, we had some novacoke-fueled inter-PC sex (interrupted by an annoyed teammate and his taser). And the guy with the porn addiction wasn't even there.
Pendaric
Oct 5 2008, 09:46 PM
AO. We are all adults and play accordingly.
I have wimped out only once and that is because I refuse to narrate and roleplay the subject of a player's hetro sexual fantasy when i am the same gender.
Damn it, he can pay for good porn like everyone else!
I guess I know deep down I will never be a japanese school girl
TKDNinjaInBlack
Oct 6 2008, 02:23 AM
QUOTE (Pendaric @ Oct 5 2008, 04:46 PM)
AO. We are all adults and play accordingly.
I have wimped out only once and that is because I refuse to narrate and roleplay the subject of a player's hetro sexual fantasy when i am the same gender.
Damn it, he can pay for good porn like everyone else!
I guess I know deep down I will never be a japanese school girl
I hear you there. Nothing more awkward than a room full of dudes when one is trying to "hook up" with another pretending to be a chick.
Fortune
Oct 6 2008, 04:30 AM
Shrug.
It never bothers me. I'll be as graphic as the audience requires, whether it is a roomful of dudes or a mixed group of guys and girls.
Actually, I find a lot of males are much more inhibited when female gamers are present, but most of the females I have played with don't share that trait.
P.S. I'm one of the 'FBI' votes.
Pendaric
Oct 6 2008, 12:16 PM
Hate to go all Vet but, "You had to be there man!"
I have had no problem with any of the other players through their straight, gay, bi, transexual, kinked encounters. As long as it stays in game am fine.
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