Thats if nobody, including Roger himself attempts first aid or tries to top the bleeding ect ect.

Yes, but you should be able to put that bullet in him before he puts it in you. Or persuade him to put it in himself first.

And if you have a belly full of lead, you would do well to pray to God and hope He has mercy on your miserable soul than to pray that DocWagon reaches you in time. DocWagon is good only if the opposition isn't determined to making your being dead a permanent condition. Or if you have a lot of damage overflow boxes.

Even a cheap sin (rating 4, 4000Y) will pretty likely get you a doc wagon band.

No, they won't doc wagon is a AA and they are extraterritorial. They also have confidentiality clauses in their contract.

While the corp territory is absolutely true theres always a chance in the winderness that they could send an ariel unit, a la "flight for life". Rules are also provided for coverage in other cities or even foreign countries through which doc wagon maintains working relationships with the local equivalent. But since it's a AA multinational the key word is "multinational"... they are all over the place in other countries.

This would destoy the entire foundation of their business. They could never do this without losing pretty much every contract they have worth having.

Wrong, its a sealed band write cellular conection that ONLY activates when you break the seal on the band. Otherwise it is completely inter and broadcasts nothing.

There is no canon material that there is an audible anything. Furthermore, no bands automatically activate except platinum and super platinum, and all those do is automatically place a call a Doc Wagon when you take a modrate wound. These 2 contracts also cost 100k and 250k anually if I recall. No SR will be using either of those anyway.

There's a lot of misconceptions about docwagon.

Actually, since much of their contracts are from other corps, they just might. Now, it's going to be hush-hush, of course, but it still might happen.

And DocWagon isn't going to hold onto major murderers (or other people with lots of media attention). After all, who in their right mind would get a contract with someone that protects criminals.

Note: Shadowrunners do not count as being in their right minds.

Nowhere do I find a passge about any privacy clauses in their contracts. I think, when Lone Star, Knight Errant or any other Law Inforcement firm or corporation with a believable suspicion will ask, they will provide the information and/or the tissue samples for astral tracking. I don't believe that they would stand in the way of an operation, making headlines as a corporation sheltering criminals and hindering the solving of crimes.
And if you are suspected to be a criminal (i.e. lie around somewhere you shouldn't be with weapons you shouldn't own and possibly even some stolen good) they WILL ask questions. They will most likely also try to contact the owner of the place where they found you and make inquiries whether you belong to the staff or at least inform them. Yes, they could be assholes and use their extrateritoriality to give shelter for criminals (a.k.a. Shadowrunners) but they still get most of their customers from corps or normal families and they have a reputation to lose. So they will cooperate with the local law enforcements and other corps. At the very least they will wait until a case has been filed and a verdict been spoken as to whether you're guilty or not. And they will most likely provide the sample for astral tracking if you don't show up at the trial.

Have you read the expanded docwagon section out of the NAGTRL sourcebook?

Absolutely not. Doc Wagon is not a hospital, they are an extraterritorial multinational corporation the same ranking as Lone Star, being AA. They are one single step below the big 10. They are not a small corp that bends to demands they are one of the largest corps out there.

Heh, they are payed 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars a year to do their job and not ask questions. Why do you think archtypes have docwagon contracts instead of going to a hospital

Doc Wagon is NOT a public service organization, they are a megacorporation interested on the bottom line. They have absolutely zero responsibility to turn anyone over to law enforcement.

Read NAGTRL, or a later sourcebook if the dogwagon section was reprinted, but I dont think it was. In the shadowtalk in that book SR's spoke positively of using docwagon for many of the reasons I have listed.

I doubt that would happen since a PC would have tons of combat dice in the dodge pool or whatever and it would be very, very statistically unlikely that they could not get more successess than a street punk.

DOC Wagon's tissue samples and the information contained therein are among the most secure locations in my gameworld. You are NOT getting in there and stealing someone's DNA sample, as has been pointed out, if those samples weren't ultra uber mega protected, they'd have gone bankrupt years ago.

They don't ask questions except things like "You're asking for coverage beyond the scope of your current contract, how will you be paying for this?"

I don't know where you got the tracking device/ audible alarm stuff, that just ain't so. Name 1 Shadowrunner who wants to wear a traking device or something that makes noise when he gets hurt?

I am reminded of an amusing Doc Wagon story in which my players got caught in the middle of a rather nasty firefight in a nasty part of town. There was a go-gang, a corporate Black Ops team and some Yaks.

Well stray bullets and poor choices for cover got a couple people shot and being "not the most cohesive" unit, it quickly deteriorated to every runner for himself. One of the sams was seriously wounded in the legs and dragged himself behind some crates and activated his Doc Wagon. A shaman, also seriously injured, had crawled into a dumpster and activates HIS Doc Wagon bracelet. The sam had basic coverage and the shammy had platinum coverage.

A few minutes later a large Docwagon armored hovervehicle crests the nearby buildings and hovers over the fight, floodlights filling the alley.

This is Doc Wagon, please hold your fire. We are fulfilling contractual obligations and require to extract a customer from this alley, we say again hold your fire.
Doc Wagon personnel will only fire if fired upon, hold your fire and we will be on our way in 30 seconds.

The entire alley held it's fire and breath. Almost everyone there HAD a docwagon contract and didn't want to damage their standing by shooting at a Doc Wagon employee.

The vehicle landed and several well armed and armored men came out, homing in on the garbage container and extracting the injured shammy. As they were removing the shammy, guns visible on every rooftop and window. The sam called out to one of the Doc Wagon employees.

"Hey I called you guys too! Get me out of here!"

The employee paused a second as he communicated with headquarters.

"I'm sorry sir but your contract doesn't cover or make provisions from extraction from combat zones, kindly relocate to a safer area and our personel will arrive within 5 minutes, thank you for using Doc Wagon."

and they all got on the transport and flew off, leaving the sam bleeding behind some crates, cursing.

The shammy thought it was funny but then, he wasn't being shot at anymore.

Sunday.

right...still unlikely, and there is ware that gives you acces to your combat pool for suprise tests IIRC.

As long as we are talking your average ganger. Any half decent char should be able to handle a few, even if surprised.

Besides, it's up to the GM to decide when your totally dead with no chance of resusitation. Doc will make every concievable attempt to bring you back since if your dead you can't keep paying mass nuyen/year for a contract.

Well, according to the BBB, the street sam should have also been picked up too but he'll need to be charged for HTR services. tsk tsk... not Canon, not Canon at all...

Yes, the Tactical Computer. 400,000 nuyen, Avail 12/60 days, SI 4, 1.5 Essence, and with decent preparations you get 50% of your Combat Pool for Surprise Tests or, if you are one of those guys who won't even go to Stuffer Shack without drone overwatch and taccom networks set up, you might even get 75%. W00t!

Generally, canonically, a decent street sammy will never be surprised by mundanes without ware or lots of drugs. The sammy only needs 2/3rds more dice than the prepared ambusher to make sure he's always in control of the situation. Against a Reaction 12 sammy, you need at least 8 Reaction to have a good chance of surprising him with an ambush.

DocWagon contracts aren't as useful in my games, since I try to use realistic response times for everything, and the groups do runs all over Finland, often far (100km+) away from any large cities which might have a response team ready. It would take at least ~15 minutes for a team to get there, even if everything was ready, engines running etc.

Out of ... 12 PCs in the games I've run so far, only one has had a DocWagon (well, not actually DocWagon but similar) contract, which really did save his life once. He even got out of hospital OK and wasn't asked any difficult questions, even though he was slowly bleeding to death from bullet wounds, full of drugs (mostly of the truth serum type), in a stolen van, the owner of whom had been murdered a few nights back. The police were waiting for him at the hospital gates though...

True... Question is: will they care enough to let them slip? I gues this is up to the GM. I don't think there can be a definite answer to that.

Well, actually it's probably DocWagon who will get the repurcussions from the Corporate Court for violating another corps territory. Mitsuhama's aggression might be judged merely as an act of 'homeland defense'. Even more so that Mitsuhama is a AAA and DocWagon only AA. Theoretically I don't think this should make a difference but practically I'm pretty sure it will.

Yes, but I don't see how this changes anything. If Mitsuhama law prohibits DocWagon from "rescuing" intruders, than DocWagon has to obey or deal with the consequences.

BTW: I can't remember anything specific but doesn't DocWagon also have their own clinics? I mean, are they only a rescue service catering the big (public) hospitals or do they also have their private clinics? I'm not sure, I believe they only do the rescue but I have the vague memory of a DocWagon Clinic somewhere...

And since we don't know enough about Seattle law we can't really say much about all the possibilities of bribing. To give another stupid example:
Said Mitsuhama intruder/runner gets picked up but wants to be delivered to his street doc instead of a pulic clinic. He bribes the DW personel and they land their chopper right in front of the doc's clinic, causing everybody to watch and stare, noting in the log that they delived him to hospital XY, since this is what the runner wanted. Now Mitsuhama wants to track the runner. They ask DocWagon, they say they delivered him to this hospital since that's what's in the log. They ask the hospital but they say they never received the runner. What now? The crew will be tracked down via the log and is now in trouble. Would any crew take the risk to take such bribes then?
Also: is DocWagon obliged to take their customers to hospitals at all or can they be taken anywhere the customer pleases? Probably the later is the case.

DW will ask the terrotorial owner for permission to enter. I would guess that a typical answer would be "yes" UNLESS there had been a security alert (unless it was the corp's own people who were been picked up).

The waiver idea seems like a good one - I can imagine that been used a lot, although remember that the better contracts give a discount on extended care. It's not that different from voluntary discharge from hospital.

I doubt you'd need to bride the DW crew - confidentiality is maintained otherwise their business is gone (most corp execs would have as much to hide as an SR) and the customer is nearly always right, as long as they pay their bill.

Not necesarily. They will remain silent as long as no one asks or there's nothing too obvious happening (like a bullet to the chest in a facility where they don't belong).
Of course, Execs have a lot of dirt to hide but an ambulance crew or a hospital wouldn't find out about things like corporate fraud and about illegaly firing thousands of employees or about their BTL addiction or something. Drug abuse will probably overlooked for a good bribe. But if the bribe is good enough the nurses and doctors will probably overlook most anything. However, it's harder to omit the bullet to the chest if this is the only reason the patient is in hospital for that would be omiting the only reason he's there... of course one could make something up. But that's a lot of trouble since the records won't match with the stock of supplies and such things. There will be inconsitencies and someone will be getting into trouble. However, if an exec comes in because he's been shot in some back alley because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and he pays DW some decent amount of money, they will simply not mention his drug addiction or some illegal Cyberware or so because that has nothing to do with why the exec is there.

(Sorry, my English is a little blurry today. I hope everything was clear enough to understand it)