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It is true that planets are a good place to hide things, but at high altitudes where the temperature starts to increase it is because the air is so very thin. The absorption of infrared wavelengths by water vapor does complicate things, it is true, but there are solutions for most of these problems. Operating at higher altitudes in cold and dry environments and cooling your telescope will solve a lot of the interference problems. Though I suppose there isn't any purely optical way of totally canceling out foreground heat from the final image.

could've swore the ZO satellite was at 1 of the lagrange points (though i'm not 100% on that), which as i understand are caused by the interaction of earth's and moon's gravitational fields. would this not require it's position relative to the moon to be constant?

as to passing in front of the sun... given you're restricted to visual targeting for magic, i'm not envisioning this to be a huge problem. the station should be completely blocked out by glare i would think.

Well, I did say that it was *easier* to hide, not that it was exactly 'easy'.

You know, this thread was fun. They you started applying math.

Make it fun again, or I shut it down! I want more crazy scenarios!

Hell, I want BattleRun 2 featuring Harlequins Mech and Clan Nova Catgirls.

Just wondering if it would be about frame of reference for the spell - what is it relative to? Just make the frame of reference relative to earth and will be moving at high speed itself - going to be nearly impossible to hit anything with it, without the caster owning a maths SPU and an astrophysics degree? Nice simple answer as to why slightly powerful crank magicians don't kill everything in space?

Now, I think we've determined that Great Dragon vs Battlemechs is going to end poorly for the mechs. How would it affect things if the Clan had stopped off in Star Wars to get the pilots a little Jedi/Sith training?

Clan Nova Catgirls - these should be in every game!

Magic doesn't work like that.
It's where you look at, no matter how far away it is.

Makes me long for the days when Magic in space simply made your head explode.

Still does in my game

However, Great Dragons can survive a Mana Void still. They're just that damn powerful (Astral Armor is some fun stuff).

(One of the options we considered for Ghostwalker during the YotC brainstorming session was that he had been in space, either banished by the other dragons, or simply exploring or something. While fun and a bit over-the-top crazy, it was deemed a bit too over the top for even Shadowrun).

Bull

Ghostwalker should have come back in a giant mech, blaring rock you like a hurricane, with Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan riding on his shoulders playing air guitar. That would have been the best intro ever.

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Regardless of whether the Zurich Orbital is in low orbit, geostationary orbit or at a Lagrange point it is still going to be moving very fast in relation to the ground. Lagrange points might be relatively stationary when compared to the center of mass of two objects, but the surface of the earth is an entirely different frame of reference and its rotation alone would be difference enough to cause massive damage.

As for passing in front of the sun, just put a filter on your telescope lens. Flare comp works in every other case I know of.

Ghostwalker being in space makes plenty of sense to me. In fact, all that unleashed mana could have been the mana Ghostwalker had stored up for his trip while he was residing in the comet's astral form. It would also explain why he looked so messed up when he first came out of the rift after being in a mana void for so long.

You have to put an obstacle pretty far away from a spaceship (in terrestrial terms) for the ship to have any chance of missing it. A half of a light second might be a short distance for a spaceship, but it is pretty far away in pedestrian terms.

(I think I might have to create a SURGE only street gang called Clan Nova Catgirls.)

the lagrange point was not meant to imply the station isn't moving; i'm asking that since the station is in a consistent relation to the moon, would it not be unable to cause a lunar eclipse?

also, i can't help wondering if the distance involved would allow diffraction to effectively make the space station invisible. i really can't say that i feel much like doing the math involved, but i do recall that over a distance of perhaps 8-9 meters, we got a pattern that was a good 10 feet wide as i recall. but as i said, i don't really feel like doing the math... (for that matter, it's been a while... i'm not sure i *could* do the math, even if i was to go look up the formula; i certainly can't recall offhand how to apply it =S )

toturi approves of Harlequin's Mech and Clan Nova Catgirls. Especially if Nova Catgirls are nova-hot.

I think that would have made YotC worse for too many people, though I'd find it awesome. My group has previously discussed Magic in Space as it were, and the fact that most great dragons could take a trip off-world if they wanted to without too much penalty (obviously, being at half your magic rating or less is kind of upsetting, but you wouldn't die).

Augh, it burns and stings, i just got that one x.x . .
Harlekins Mech, Harlekin's Back . . ouchies x.x . .

It worked a little better when spoken outloud at Gen Con, but yeah

Besides, despite my absolute disdain for Harley in SHadowrun, he fits perfectly into BattleRun And I'd love an excuse to get a mech all painted up in Harlequin colors.

Now the question is, what does he drive...?

Probably a fast Medium Mech with one ER-PPC, a bit of Medium Pulsers for Close Combat and Stealth Armor.
Also, i quite like Harley, at least HE has a sense of Humor. And let's it show on a regular Basis too.
And i think i remember at least one Mech being painted in a Haröekin Paint-Scheme, but i can't remember where.

How about a Mercury, because it is old-school and rare, just like him. The sheer speed is a big plus too.

The specifics of the mech aren't too relevant, because if Harley is still Harley, he will have all kinds of force <enough> defensive spells on that thing.

Likewise, the weaponry isn't too important, since he could send force <enough> spirits against any enemy.

...And that is if he is forced into a fight at all, which I imagine might be kind of hard.

It would be kind of funny if in someone's Bettlerun setting, the Clanners are badass because they are all Physads...

I don't care how many megatons of bombs/ force/ whatever the Clans have. You interrupt Lofwyr "entertaining" and you've just punched your own one-way ticket to Pain City.

- J.

Lofwyr asks the Clan Nova catgirls to join the fun and everybody is happy.

Lucky that it was Smoke Jaguar invading, isn't it? This is clearly the only plausible solution.

A Jaguar is fine too.

As long as it is female and feline, it's all fine.

I hear Smoke Jaguars are into the Aztechnology BDSM that their Jaguar Guards do. Tie me up and whip me, meeeoooow.

When did the Shadowrunner catgirl thread get revived?

Lofwyr says your catgirls make excellent hors d'oeuvres, and wishes to know when the main course will arrive.

So Lofwyr gets off on voraphilia. Neat.

*Snorts in laughter*
I didn't expect that.
(And no, I'm not a voraphile)

Gee thanks alot, I could have gone my entire life without knowing what voraphiles were. Damn google...

You too, eh?

*Giggle*
Should have just looked up a latin translator and plugged in "voro-" or "vorare." Means "to eat" or "to swallow" ("voracious"). "Phile" means "to love," and most people know that one.
Anyway, you know what to do now, right?

Commit Google Sepuku!

huh... whaddya know... there really is such a thing as google seppuku... i figured you were just making that up...

Usually an image search using random Japanese characters, but the concept applies: any search done that makes you wish you never played.