If it's any consolation, I was cringing when I typed it.

But the point is valid -- a singular, amazingly painful injury -- moreso to an "important" area of the body and you'll find out how determined your subject is.

At least I didn't mention the sausage grinder...

-Siege

*twi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-tch...*

The problem tho Siege, is that after that either they will be either resigned to death, "brave" enough not to care, or the most likely answer, he'll tell you everything you want to hear.

Let's go over that last part, he'll tell you everything you'll want to hear.

Not the truth, hell, if he thought you wanted to know that the sun was being eaten by a purple-poka-dotted dragon while Damien Knight played Tootsie on an off broadway play... he'd tell you that.

It won't likely be the truth, as he'd tell you ~anything~ to make you go away. Whether it's truthful or not is another matter entirely.

When trying to aquire useful information, it doesn't do well to set oneself up as the nemesis or bad guy. Be nice to 'em and reiterate how ya just want to be friends, but their noncooperation forces ya to do things you don't want to do.

Best ways to get useful information I can think of, requires more then one person that knows, in order to play one off the other (Well person A said this, what do you say?). Then let them get back together under a controlled enviroment. Monitor what they say.

Another one is punishing other people for the target's refusal to cooperate (particularly women for men, and children for women).

But if one only has one person to work on, sensory deprivation and isolation works if one has the time. Recorded loops of screaming babies afterwards.


I swears... one learns so much simply by watching the History channel...

If the subject is either resigned to death or brave enough not to care, you then know the interrogation will take a lot longer and the interrogators will have to be more thorough.

However, sudden and overwhelming pain will prevent most people from thinking clearly or logically -- not many people can resign themselves to death particularly quickly. A "shock and awe" factor, if you will.

For the average person, their imagination will almost always play in your favor and the victim will fear the interrogators and what unspecified terrors the interrogators could inflict, logical or not.

As for telling the interrogator everything he wants to hear -- that's a risk of any kind of interrogation, torture or not. It's up to the interrogators to sort through the information and discern what is and isn't valid.

Although that does spin an interesting thought: could lie detectors be made more effective by using MRI technology or implanting trodes to get more accurate readings?

-Siege

Oh dear godess! A cranked up BTL version of childbirth. Thats SO CRUEL!
But in a seriousness, a creative charcter with a knack for video editing could really mess someone up. I mean, think what 3 hours of direct feed simsence of the most hard core, viloent, smutish,......, would do to your avg Joe?

Love those books. Never really lgot into the other one. The one about Gird.

Ya know, I'm just gonna have to take your word for that.

-Siege

Why not both at the same time? We have the technology... We'll add in the occasionaly nut-crunching too, to make Siege happy.

Revenge? Against who?

Men in general good sir. all of us are doomed.

Really? I didn't know REM's name was Andry...unless Kit's aim is improving...

-Siege

no i dont think my name is andry...... nope still aint changed.
still Kyle

Our team has usually gone the other way. Since it's more profitable. We've removed cranial implants with a combat knife, and body augmentation with a vehicle shop.

Although implanting a remote RAS switch and tying BTL chipjack directly to the memory area of the brain is suddenly very tempting...

If you got that girlfriend, I think my Control Actions variant (with the added Heal goodness) mentioned earlier in the thread is better. Or at least beats your version in Pure Unadultered Sickness.

I am fortunate in that my capability for empathy is very low, and my mind has strong self-defense mechanisms -- not to mention other, less abstract reasons why it is impossible for me to think what it would feel like to be forced to torture your Significant Other.

People are simply interested in how pain works. And torture has a sort of Aura of Coolness about it. Because it's so "bad-ass". To me, torture is much like nuclear weapons. Interesting in theory, sickening in practice.

I wholy agree.

Unfortunately I don't have these mechanisms of self-defense. I used to have them some time ago, but not any more for some reason unknown to me. It has become a habbit of mine to imagine what things are like for "victims" in any situation And I have a very vivid imagination. Has helped me a lot in relationships.
And even though I never have been in any situation like described here (and I'm endlessly grateful for that, believe me. Reading this thread has enabled me to see what a happy and peaceful life I'm leading) I can imagine what it would be like to hurt or kill your significant other or see them tortured. I "know" what it feels like when your sanity is slowly falling apart and you're willing to do anything to make "it" end, whatever "it" may be (having suffered one or the other illness with similar yet milder effects).
I find it fascinating how people are fascinated by such a thing as torture and how they can think and talk about such things in such a "cold" and indifferent way. Yet again, in todays society where everyone is but a small wheel in the huge machinery known as mankind fantasies of power over others are very appealing to most people. So is violence in general, by the way. The human mind is an uterly fascinating and bizare place...
And I have no clue why these fantasies are not appealing to me. For some reason I stopped wanting to dominate others a few years ago. We are such weird beings...

By the way: I don't find torture to have a "cool" aura. To me the aura is more sickening, dirty, bloody, evil, twisted... plain wrong. As I said, it makes me wanna choke. I can't understand the fascination of it on an emotional basis. On an intelectual level it's not that hard to understand.
Then again, nuclear weapons, while utterly destructive, indeed do have an aura of coolness and grace even for me. How something so small and clean can have a power so vast... The principle behind it is just fascinating, this exponential chain reaction. A huge potential lying dormant until unleashed by such a weak gesture as the press of a button.. But then again I study computer science. I love systems that are simple yet powerful!