And JongWK, you get my PM/check the damn thread...

errr? Are you wanting characters that can do all those?

I assume he is. Don't worry though, its apparently really easy to do with BeCKS.

Yeah. I bet Kagetenshi and BlackSmith have been building those killer characters for just this purpose.

I'm waiting to see. These characters are going to SUCK, Req thinks.

Yeah, they have to fufill all the roles (Excepting faces, of course-only girls do that ).

Prototype is an ork who pretty much fullfills these criteria I think...

Okay, rigger... he isn't yet, but he has enough saved to get VCR 1 and a bunch of remote control deck equipment, drones, etc. so that'll be fullfilled within a few weeks!

Decker - he has a datajack and an MPCP-10 Cyberdeck with most programs between ratings 6 and 10!!! Pretty good, Computer 6 as well, though he's gonna get a Math-SPU when he gets the VCR probably!

Samurai - well, in addition to his datajack he has vision and hearing mods, Move-By-Wire 3, Titanium Bone Lacing, Dermal Sheath, Smartlink, a bunch of headware, Skillwires-6 (1000Mp), Expert Drivers (2 of them), and some other stuff. By way of Bioware he has Platelet Factory, Trauma Damper, Muscle Aug + Toner, Mnemonic Enhancer and some other stuff...

Image - presume this means 'face' type stuff? Well, he has Negotiation/Ettiquette and that around 5-6 along with a bunch of other skills in this vein chipped. I suppose that kind of covers it! He's stealthy too, which most of these guys are!

Adepts - He's a physad around initiate grade 7 - powers are hit hard by all the cyber and stuff, but mainly run to enhanced skills, pain resistance, mystic armour, killing hands and the like. Plenty of centering on just about everything and a Rating 6 Weapon Focus plus Rating 4 Centering Focus to round it all off.

Sound like your man?

Not image. Mage. And he's not.

Ok. This one has been a long time in the making and started all the way back in 1st ed.
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Reaver

Rigger - Well, not yet, but does have the essence to afford a level 1 VCR if and when he wants to shell out the major nuyen for a delta grade version and the skilled surgeon. Does have a few nice cars already and an old SPECAT International Jaguar fighter. Does have a datajack and all his vehicles have a datajack port.

Decker - Has an implanted Math SPU (3) and Encephalon (2). Has a highly modified Trans-Berry NeuroSys cyberdeck that he picked up from a published adventure (Imago I think). MPCP 13 (running of 12 since it uses a reality filter) and most programs are at an average of 6. Computer skill is only a 4, with a B/R of 2. Decking is more of a past time/hobby than a full fledged skill.

Samurai - Has dual smartgun rig, a single cybereye (which he lost in a fight with a bug shaman) and a rating 6 implanted radio (w/ commlink 4, crypto-circuit 8, scramble breaker 6 and a cybercomm link). Skillwire 6 (300Mp) for backup esoteric skills. Also has muscle augmentation and muscle toner, enhanced articulation, synthacardium and trauma damper. Pistols of 6, assault rifles and rifles of 5, SMG of 4, and edged weapons of 6. Athletics of 3 and Stealth of 4.

Mage - Level 10 shamanic initiate, following the goddess Ishtar (deity of love and war). Sorcery finally up to rating 8, enchanting 7, conjuring 6 and spell design 5. Has picked up pretty much every metamagic talent through either initiation or learning. Has shed all current geas through magic loss, but still has focus additiction. Rating 4 and 8 weapon focus. Also has a rating 12 weapon focus bastard sword that is also an ally spirit rating 6. A rating 6 power focus, rating 6 shield focus, rating 6 manipulation focus, a few spell locks and a few sustaining foci. Average force rating of spells is around 7 or 8.

Al cyberware is delta grade, implanted here and there over a large ammount of time. Bioware was also implanted slowly and is all cultured.

Too bad he's not an adept, and too bad he's not a starting character. Otherwise... in the immortal words on keanu reeves: "Woah."

Start with magical path(mage, assumed to be hermetic) adept>> mage and adept

Get implants(smartlinks and datajack and eye stuff)>> Sam

Decker(since have datajack already can just add a deck and skills)

Rigger(just add vehicle, a rigger doesn't need a VCR to rig )

He *did* say "make and post" as opposed to "make, play across 3 editions until you have a godlike character, and then post." as well as "they do have to fulfill all the roles"

Actually: Isn't Adept an equivalent term for any aspected character? IE: You get Conjuring / Sorcery Adepts so wouldn't a hermetic conjuring adept count as an MageAdept?

Aside from that the Path of the Magician is about the best choice with the best grade of VCR1, Datajack, and Smartlink you can fit into 2 essence (you'll need some betaware or better in there).

I'd like in but I'd like to know what chargen rules are being used. 123BP? Becks XYZ? Priorities? Is Beta/Cultured ware available? What rating/Availability is allowable?

Also: What, specifically, do characters have to achieve to be counted as a Sammie? Do they need to have 0.01 essence or (as I'm assuming) be good in general combat and have a smartlink? Are Sorcerery/Conjuring/Totemic/Elemental Adepts considered Adepts or do you have to be a Physical Adept?

Eventually characters get to a point where they can retire. Ask yourself this... You were a shadowrunner, risking your life day in, day out, just so some Johnson will pay you a bit of money, but then again, he may just stab you in the back. Eventually, you get the "big score" and have enough to buy a permanent high lifestyle. Do you keep risking your life for people who don't give a damn about you, or do you life the easy life?

Depends what you're running for.
Even amongst those who don't have ideals they fight for or revenge to seek, some people just forget how to live any other way.

~J

then again, some people want to get out of the house and away from the kids.


eh reav?

lmfao!!

thrill seekers. daredevils. anarchists. the list goes on and on.

Heh, I've been working on a design for a character who wants to be a rigger and was pissed to discover he couldn't implant any cyberware in himself.

He uses a combination of mental manipulation and detection spells to control animals and borrow their senses to perform "Biological Rigging."

Hmmm, I had a starting character that is an ork combat decker houngan of Legba.

He was decent in a fight, could hold his own with a deck, and of course, the houngan part satisfies the mage.

Pretty charismatic, also, for an ork, as his main spiritual function was summoning and banishing, requireing high charisma. This, in turn, allowed him decent negotiation and intimidation skills. So, he had some skills as a face, and some of the contacts thereof.

No rigging abilities whatsoever, nor any desire to get some. But, hey, in reality, there really is no way for a starting character to do everything well, and even Louie (the orks name) was stretched rather thin as a combat decker/houngan/face.

Of course, any character, given enough karma and resources, can do everything well, which is not really realistic. How often, in the real world, do you find people that are masters of everything, even after years of experience? The karma rules for SR, while decent, break down at the higher ends.

Just my thoughts
Derek

Frankly, just the fact that people are actually trying to fullfill the title's requirements makes me feel dumber.

I made one of these once for a failed ganger campaign. I think I burnt the records.

I'm taking the mick out of the points system with this hot decker. And he is canon!

Reaver you would fit right in with my group man. The adept has a power foci 5 katana and has 6 conceal. He also has an artifact that contains a demon and acts as a power foci 9 or some such bull shit.

The sam has what they call "Gamma" ware. It uses half the essense of Delta and he got it for free. A corp is using him as a guinea pig. Seems odd how there is no adverse effects in the past few years, really odd since it's the DMs char.

in other words...it's fucking broken

I'm actually genuinely working on creating something like what the title asks for. I'm having to review the magic rules and such, so it could be a few days. But the quick pointers in my design and for anyone else thinking about this.

1. Robots. You can get by without any vehicle skills whatsoever as a Rigger or even a VCR if you make all of your vehicles good robots. It's very possible to start with a Rating 4 robot or maybe 5 if you put it on a chasis with a design point multiplier (0.25-0.35).

2. Agents. Programs all come with the source code unless you state otherwise(Pg. 94 Matrix 3, left column, 8th paragraph). Agents do not take up memory after you run them. They can load attack programs. You can burn copys of a program you own the source to to OMCs. Therefore, the amount of Agents you have on a run with you is limited primairily to how many days of downtime you have.

3. Spells. More than a few spells aren't more effective at higher forces.

4. Sustaining foci are your friends.

5. Be a shaman. You will most likely be hurting for skills and attributes, being a shaman gives you some more dice on magic tests. Snake is a good one from the BBB, you shouldn't be casting spells in combat anyways as this concept.

6. Build points. It takes 30 points to have an A in Resources. It takes 30 points to have an A in Magic. It takes 20 points to have a B in Resources. It takes 25 points to have a B in Magic. It takes 60 points to have an A in Attributes. It takes 50 points to have a B in Skills.

Meditate on these things.

Oh, Beatware. It's good stuff.

SMACKITY-SMACKITY-SMACK!!!

Sue me! I was in a hurry and didn't notice.

You'll receive word from my lawyers in the morning.

~J