Cant add a gasvent to a grenadelauncher.

Eh. Fill in your own recoil compensation then. It's been a while since I theorized that weapon (~+8 months).

Even if RAW allows a full-auto grenade launcher I wouldn't. Not even for my cyberzombie. : )

And yes, yes I know they exist in real life (Mk. 19), but they're lightyears away from man portable and I can't imagine any amount of futuristic shadowrunny unobtanium would make them so.

Full auto rocket launcher is not possible unless you are like a boat or a plane.

Man portable they may not be, but Troll portable is totally different think.

Sounds like something I would use an Ares Thunderstruck to tackle.

The full auto grenade launcher they showed on an episode of Future Weapons (a year or two ago) certainly looked man-portable...

Well, technically even the old Mk 19 is classified as "man-portable".

Meaning, it can be transported by soldiers without the aid of mechanical assistance.





-karma

Right. The term is interesting, but possibly inaccurate as used in this thread.

In Shadowrun, everything up to and including motorcycles is Troll portable.
Or Drake portable. Or Centaur portable.

Why not? Everything is tiny in Shadowrun, and it wouldn't take much to make a portable grenade launcher automatic. Probably wouldn't even kick that hard.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/images/m32/M32.jpg

Then if you imagine that they will be able to make the grenades smaller than 40mm...

Horribly munchkin. But when has that ever stopped anybody?

I thought they already made 20mm (and 25) grenades, like decades ago. Hell, with airburst. That's not the point.

They do. I just meant imagine in conjunction with a weapon like the one in the picture and with full automatic capability.

As to 25mm programmable grenades? Well, the tech isn't perfect yet, but with fifty years or so and a Smartlink, a system like this could be brutal:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/i...och-hk-xm25.jpg

Right now we seam to have micro grenades effective the size of a 50. round lookign at our GL pistol. Also I think theres a 20 round drum GL already its a fav of mine to add under my MGs.

AA-12 Automatic shotgun, loaded with HE Frag 12 slugs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqucgAIFEyM...feature=related

Effectively a full auto mini grenade launcher...

That's a full-auto shotgun, with virtually no recoil. Pretty cool.

Oh yes, I forgot about this.

Someone should stat Frag-12 for Shadowrun. : )

Would it to Frag Grenades be as Stick'n'Shock is to tasers?

It might just be EX-Ex, though. It depends on if there's a radius. The Frag-12 comes in regular, extra crispy (frag), and armor-piercing. The only one *maybe* intended to have a radius is the fragmentation one, I would guess. Details aren't instantly available online, so I gave up.

Did some one say plasma... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1q_rRicAwI
Right now their prototype ship mounted weapons but I can see them being troll size by 2072.

Also keep in mind allot of the modern restrictions go out the window thanks to magic. I'm talking magically super cooled materials for starters.

Just because the scene is damn nifty, even it they exaggerate things a bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_QxpJh8JE



-karma

That's not plasma - that's a railgun. It's just being propelled funny.

They do have laser guns though.

It is a railgun, and all that flame was from plasma, it just isn't a plasma weapon. The plasma is like the muzzle flash of a conventional gun.

All railguns have some plasma going on because of the tremendous current arcing from the rails to the projectile. It is enough current that most railguns damage themselves as you fire them. Many are rebuilt after each shot, because the rail is so damaged from the plasma arcing.

For this reason, military railguns are possible right now, just not practical. (Because those picky tank commanders want more than one shot between overhauls...)

Yeah rail erosion is a bitch the most logical idea was some thing like the metal storm system stack ammo and rails in one load so the last shot also kills the rails but that's only practical for rifle sized systems and currently getting the power to a system like that is difficult to say the least. Then there are ammo feed issues. They are still just possible as is, in a naval engagement with the range and pure power plus ships could have the ability to rearm the rails but it's still not that good.

Ahh, I misinterpreted what he was saying.