PeteThe1
Sep 4 2011, 06:11 AM
Anyone mentioned the anime Black Lagoon yet? City run by various criminal syndicates, dozens of freelance mercs and hitmen with insane personalities, and your main protagonists are a Face, a Gunslinger Adept, a Hacker, and a Smuggler. All its technically missing is the cyber, but the people are so absurdly skilled they may as well be chromed. And just generally the series is both very funny and very bad ass ala Cowboy Bebop.
Saint Hallow
Sep 4 2011, 06:19 AM
A point I see many folks are facing due to trying to find the perfect SR movie is the lack of "cyber" element. There are tons of action films/tv shows that have gun-bunnies, hackers, face/con men, drivers/pilots, & criminal elements. Do these things itself make them viable as an SR movie or do we really need the cyberware/bioware aspect? What about the magic element? I don't think there's any non-Anime, live-action film that has ever been made that combines gunplay, martial-art, magic, cyber/bioware, & dystopian themes.
As for Anime/Animated movies/tv shows... Silent Moebius has magic, cyberware, future society (not quite dystopian, but some elements are there), gun play, martial arts, & spirits/demons.
suoq
Sep 4 2011, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Sep 4 2011, 12:19 AM)

I don't think there's any non-Anime, live-action film that has ever been made that combines gunplay, martial-art, magic, cyber/bioware, & dystopian themes.
I think it takes more than an hour and 20 minutes to even get the setting explained. By the time you're done you end up with even less plot than Sukiyaki Western Django.
Stahlseele
Sep 4 2011, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (suoq @ Sep 4 2011, 11:03 AM)

I think it takes more than an hour and 20 minutes to even get the setting explained. By the time you're done you end up with even less plot than Sukiyaki Western Django.
No?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86on_Flux_(film)
suoq
Sep 4 2011, 01:01 PM
I'm trying to figure uot where you're going with Aeon Flux since you seem to be disagreeing with my statement by linking to an article about a different movie that mentions it's 10% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and discusses how even the creator of the series described the film as making him feel "helpless, humiliated and sad".
Note that this movie didn't just expect it's audiences to get it from the movie. It had a series of animated shorts to introduce the universe and a comic book that was put out for the express purpose of introducing the universe and still most people didn't enjoy it.
To a certain extent, the mishmash of cyberpunk and fantasy fails even in Shadowrun. In almost any fantasy world there's a rich difference between orcs, trolls and dwarves. From a Shadowrun perspective they're all metahumans in small, large, and supersized. At least elves are given some form of heritage and their own private country. The end result of all this stuff is that it just becomes generic filler to the point where trolls, orcs, and dwarves are so normal that we've gotten into the social aspect of intelligent ghouls.
It's simply too much stuff thrown into a blender and in the end one can only focus on so many things. A chord is much better than a single note, yes, but one can only jam so many notes in a chord before it just becomes someone slamming their hands down on a piano.
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