KCKitsune
May 31 2011, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (TheFr0g @ May 31 2011, 04:28 PM)

If your player is new to the genre, don't force Johnny Mnemonic down their throat. I love the movie, and it does capture the world, but it is a terrible movie and may well turn them off of the whole experience.
Go with Bladerunner, it captures the dystopian world perfectly while also managing to be a damn good film.
Yup. Blade Runner/Ghost in the Shell and Big Trouble in Little China would be my two movies to introduce new players to Shadowrun. You need BTiLC to somewhat explain the Magic part.
Maxwell Silverhammer
May 31 2011, 10:42 PM
I think A big one that no one has mentioned is Strange Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_%28film%29 Although set in 1999, and no Magic. It is probably the second best Shadowrun style movie next to Johnny M... The main character is basically an ex-cop BTL dealer who stumbles onto a major conspiracy. I really liked it, maybe you will to
James McMurray
May 31 2011, 10:46 PM
QUOTE (Maxwell Silverhammer @ May 31 2011, 05:42 PM)

I think A big one that no one has mentioned is Strange Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_%28film%29 Although set in 1999, and no Magic. It is probably the second best Shadowrun style movie next to Johnny M... The main character is basically an ex-cop BTL dealer who stumbles onto a major conspiracy. I really liked it, maybe you will to

nezumi mentioned it, but not by name. It's definitely a good one for getting the feel of the world.
MJBurrage
May 31 2011, 11:19 PM
Shadowrun by its very nature is cross genre, and so no single live action film fits the bill. But going with the goal of the fewest possible...
Ronin is what runners do. I have never seen a better film for this purpose.
Blade Runner crossed with Lord of the Rings is the world they do it in. Both of these films were clearly inspiration for the game's writers, and are well known, so a new player has probably seen at least one.
Udoshi
May 31 2011, 11:38 PM
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ May 31 2011, 01:30 PM)

Sucker Punch sucked like a Punch to the sucker . .
My wallet certainly felt sucker punched after i saw it. One of those movies where the trailer is better, i felt.
For very pink mohawk shadowrun games, I'd volunteer
Enthiran as a theme movie.
It has a lot of necessary plot elements. Advanced technology, competitors trying to use your innovations for their best interests, poaching researchers, inadvertently unleashing pandemonium on the city, a frantic dash to fix it, and a remote controlled robot army.
Plus, its absolutely ridiculous.
baronspam
May 31 2011, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (Maxwell Silverhammer @ May 31 2011, 11:42 PM)

I think A big one that no one has mentioned is Strange Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_%28film%29 Although set in 1999, and no Magic. It is probably the second best Shadowrun style movie next to Johnny M... The main character is basically an ex-cop BTL dealer who stumbles onto a major conspiracy. I really liked it, maybe you will to

I had forgot about Strange Days. Its a pretty good film. Much better than Johnny M. , unfortunatly. Although based on a Gibson story, Johnny M. just isn't that well written/made a film. It has the classic cyberpunk elements, but its implementation is just shakey. It comes off low budget and full of cheese. I caught it on cable recently. YMMV, but I was a bit dissapointed.
ravensoracle
Jun 1 2011, 02:19 AM
I agree that there is no one movie that truely captures Shadowrun. But for Runner's actions I like to show movies like The Saint, The Score, Italian Job, I'm not as much of a fan of the Ocean's series unless it is the original old school, and for a little pink mohawk the Smokin' Aces Set. That's not all of the list but some that I haven't seen here yet.
Fortinbras
Jun 1 2011, 05:40 AM
I'm equally surprised no one has said Heat.
Michael Mann is where it is at. Well, except for Manhunter.
Ghost_in_the_System
Jun 1 2011, 06:51 AM
Oh! I've got it!
Harry Potter!
No really, just replace Muggle with Joe Average, Voldemort with Dragon, Ministry of Magic with Government, Hogwarts with Sponsoring Company... Snape with Mr. Johnson (Or maybe Dumbledore, on their side, but never gives them all the info). They go through the classic mission steps, including legwork, attempted mission, wrench in mission, alternately hindered and helped by Mr. J. Okay, setting is a bit more light hearted and lacks the tech, but it fits better than you might think at first glance.
Okay, so it isn't a perfect fit, but it is something the person is likely to have already watched/read
Machiavelli
Jun 1 2011, 07:06 AM
Do we have some multimillionaires at dumpshock? Could PLEASE somebody with sufficient financial backgrounds simply MAKE an SR-Movie? The users could make proposals which actors would fit etc.
raben-aas
Jun 1 2011, 07:28 AM
Cast A Deadly Spell. A classic Film Noir from the Nineties in a end-1940s setting where magic returned to Earth and everybody's using it. You follow the steps of an old-fashioned private eye who refuses to dabble in the new arts. You meed a construction site that employs zombies, vampire hookers in a police station, a sinister mage with a giant black voodoo zombie, a plot revolving around a spellbook, a girl on horseback hunting unicorns for sport ... the movie has it all. Minus the Cyber.
http://www.zimbio.com/watch/BiF735YjFgX/Ca...ll/Clancy+BrownAAS
hermit
Jun 1 2011, 08:33 AM
O_O
And I din't know this movie. Shame on me. I'll so get me this from somewhere. Perfectly legally, naturally.
Machiavelli
Jun 1 2011, 08:41 AM
Of course.^^
Eimi
Jun 1 2011, 10:05 AM
I would posit that Robocop is a vital SR movie experience for numerous reasons: the clash of urban decay and futuristic chrome in one city, entertainment aimed at the lowest common denominator crafted by corporate interests, a police force that has been privatized but still thinks of themselves as police first and foremost, super-criminals run amok, and an honest to god Cyberzombie.
But first, and foremost, the single most important of those reasons (and setting aside that it's a brilliantly crafted piece of satire and of filmmaking in its own right): OCP *IS* Ares. You want to understand Ares, you watch Robocop (and to a considerably lesser extent the sequels) to understand what the Ares corporate culture is. And to a lesser degree, Megacorp culture in general.
Ascalaphus
Jun 1 2011, 11:44 AM
Cast a Deadly Spell definitely fits SR magic/noir shenanigans.
I personally rather liked Sucker Punch. Precisely because it was completely and ridiculously over the top; that's what I came for. I had no expectation that there would be a plot that did anything more than hold action scenes together in the flimsiest way possible. The action scenes were pretty
Ed_209a
Jun 1 2011, 05:46 PM
I think all of the movies above are good choices (well, the ones I have seen) , even though they each only represent selected elements of the setting. I'd like to add Equilibrium into the mix for the dystopian setting, the greyscale morality and what can only be gunslinger adepts.
Of the movies above, I want to give +1s to Ronin (for the feel, if not setting) and Blade runner (for the feel and setting, though mundane).
redwulf25
Jun 1 2011, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Machiavelli @ Jun 1 2011, 03:06 AM)

Do we have some multimillionaires at dumpshock? Could PLEASE somebody with sufficient financial backgrounds simply MAKE an SR-Movie? The users could make proposals which actors would fit etc.
I'll let you know after tonights power ball drawing.
Mr. Unpronounceable
Jun 1 2011, 07:07 PM
Geez...nobody said Strange Days for the snuff BTLs?
Crazy Ivan
Jun 1 2011, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (ravensoracle @ May 31 2011, 10:19 PM)

I agree that there is no one movie that truely captures Shadowrun. But for Runner's actions I like to show movies like The Saint, The Score, Italian Job, I'm not as much of a fan of the Ocean's series unless it is the original old school, and for a little pink mohawk the Smokin' Aces Set. That's not all of the list but some that I haven't seen here yet.
Amen to that Raven. Smokin' Aces (at least the first one, I haven't seen the second one yet) definitely captures the nature of a run that goes sour and the general feel of a shadowrun. Whether it be the kick down the door style of the Tremor brothers, the sniper and spotter team, the cops, the disguise dude, Morris the Blade (I think that was his name), and the bail bondsmen, it does showcase how many different people can be playing at the same thing.
Sure Aces doesn't have cyber or magic, but all in all, it is a fine movie (if by fine movie, we are talking over the top goofy fun).
Equilibrium works to an extent for the SR feel. By no means perfect, but still good for the combat.
James McMurray
Jun 1 2011, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Jun 1 2011, 02:07 PM)

Geez...nobody said Strange Days for the snuff BTLs?
At least two people did.
Mr. Unpronounceable
Jun 1 2011, 07:35 PM
Missed it then, sorry.
How about Gattaca for the high-but-still-ineffectual security and eugenics?
nezumi
Jun 1 2011, 07:56 PM
QUOTE (Crazy Ivan @ Jun 1 2011, 03:18 PM)

Smokin' Aces (at least the first one, I haven't seen the second one yet)
Smokin' Aces Two is the same as Smokin' Aces One, except turn up the pink mohawk and add just a pinch of the Usual Suspects.
It had exploding clowns. It was fun. It definitely describes SR for some groups I've played with.
ravensoracle
Jun 2 2011, 05:35 AM
I am not sure what was funnier about the midget clowns. The scene of them getting fired out of their own cannon or the little fast forward scene of them being nabbed to begin with. Not to mention the hiest on the military base. How many people that saw that scene did not immediately think that the writer had been at a gaming table at some point in his life.
Stahlseele
Jun 2 2011, 09:18 PM
What about Judge Dredd?
James McMurray
Jun 2 2011, 09:20 PM
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 2 2011, 04:18 PM)

What about Judge Dredd?
Die infidel!!!!!!!!
suoq
Jun 2 2011, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 2 2011, 03:18 PM)

What about Judge Dredd?
I'll see your Stallone and raise you a Westley Snipes.
Demolition Man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiDoOgRTpk "Taco Bell was the only franchise to survive the Franchise Wars"
Stahlseele
Jun 2 2011, 09:32 PM
nnnggg . . maybe for running in a corp enclave, but otherwise, the feeling is just plain wrong <.<
CanRay
Jun 2 2011, 10:40 PM
I don't know, the rat burgers nailed things down pat for me.
lordnth
Jun 3 2011, 02:02 AM
FF7 Advent Children
Magic, car chases, adept fighting. gun play. There's even a dragon and cyberware. Urban decay. and a MegaCorp (Shinra) is behind it all. Just needs a less fantasy setting and more modern.
Rock a Rolla has the same problem as Ronin (and Smoking Aces) seams the film was inspired by SR but it's missing one or two elements
Ghost_in_the_System
Jun 3 2011, 02:09 AM
Ooo, that's a really good suggestion. Watch that and say "Now switch the fantasy and sci-fi settings and you've basically got it." I don't remember a dragon though, unless maybe it was part of a summons.
lordnth
Jun 3 2011, 02:24 AM
the big summon. everyone was fighting it through the ruined highrise. it was before the Sepiroth fight scene (would that be when Harliquin comes into the picture??)
Medicineman
Jun 3 2011, 07:54 AM
the "Big Dragon" was the Bahamut Summoning
Great Anime, Great Game (one of my all time Favorites,gonna watch it again soon

)
with one of his favorite Dances
Medicineman
hermit
Jun 3 2011, 08:54 AM
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 2 2011, 11:18 PM)

What about Judge Dredd?
No, but it's just perfect for a Dark Heresy campaign focusing on Enforcers (Mutant Chronicles for Guard, and the much-persecuted Damnatus for the average DH campaign).
nezumi
Jun 6 2011, 05:28 PM
Vuron
Jun 6 2011, 05:37 PM
Ugh Hayden Christiansen as Case

Anyway I think if you are playing a very Pink Mohawk game something like Buckaroo Banzai might be a good inspiration. Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong Kong Cavaliers make for great scientist/rocker/samurai action heroes. Plus the end credits!
DMiller
Jun 6 2011, 11:53 PM
Here's a good one on how a team should work, again no magic/cyber but perfect interaction and "shadow" teamwork...
"Sneakers"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105435/IMDB Link-D
Christian Lafay
Jun 8 2011, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (Vuron @ Jun 6 2011, 05:37 PM)

Ugh Hayden Christiansen as Case

Anyway I think if you are playing a very Pink Mohawk game something like Buckaroo Banzai might be a good inspiration. Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong Kong Cavaliers make for great scientist/rocker/samurai action heroes. Plus the end credits!
I still think the "sequel" was better, Big Trouble In Little China. But not really a SR movie. Though a good example of "urban magic".
phlapjack77
Jun 8 2011, 02:15 AM
I had never seen BTILC, but everyone has always hyped it as a cool / interesting / fun movie. So I saw it recently, and didn't like it at all. Maybe it's one of those nostalgia things, since I didn't see it as a kid or something.
nezumi
Jun 8 2011, 01:03 PM
It's a movie you can't take too seriously (but can take with plenty of alcohol). Unfortunately, yes, if you approach it being hyped up, it doesn't work.
Mr. Unpronounceable
Jun 8 2011, 04:31 PM
Eh? Big Trouble in Little China had no connections to Buckaroo Banzai.
It was, however, originally written to be a period piece...kinda like Cowboys & Aliens.
Christian Lafay
Jun 8 2011, 05:57 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Unpronounceable @ Jun 8 2011, 04:31 PM)

Eh? Big Trouble in Little China had no connections to Buckaroo Banzai.
It was, however, originally written to be a period piece...kinda like Cowboys & Aliens.
I was always under the impression that it was meant to be the sequel mentioned at the end of Buckaroo Banzai, "Buckaroo Banzai Against The World Crime League". And then when that went no where they kicked it around a lot and came up with BTILC. But, urban legends run rampant so.... Still, both good films.
Wordman
Jun 8 2011, 09:05 PM
Nemesis. Best example of style over substance ever. It also tends to be closer to how Shadowrun is
actually played rather than some idealized notion of how you might want it to be played (i.e. Ronin).
If doing a double feature, I'd add in
Mean Guns.
These two point at very different types of Shadowrun, though. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
If you like your Shadowrun a bit... out there, you might try
Immortal instead.
Stahlseele
Jun 8 2011, 11:18 PM
wusselpompf
Jun 18 2011, 07:47 AM
As for the feel of SR 1-3 I would agree with Johnny Mnemonic and Strange Days
As far as SR4 is concerned, I wonder why nobody mentioned Babylon AD, which for me captures the SR4-feel perfectly.
Also as a Runner up, Rennaissance should not go unmentioned.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386741/
Daddy's Little Ninja
Jun 23 2011, 04:32 PM
Robocop
Archunter
Jun 23 2011, 05:32 PM
As mentioned above...
RenaissanceIt doesn't have much in the way of cyberware or magic but it does put you in the shadows of a corporate world.
WolfgangGrafVonBek
Jun 28 2011, 07:41 AM
New Rose Hotel Is the most obscure film I've seen that feels like a Shadowrun, Christopher Walken and Willem Dafoe are a pair of fixers trying to extract a R&D scientist* from a Japanese Megacorp.
*played by Final Fantasy and Vampire Hunter D character designer Yoshitaka Amano
nezumi
Jun 28 2011, 01:56 PM
It's obscure because it was kind of cruddy. The actors, setting, and even the plot of what they actually did is awesome, but the story is a pair of old dogs sitting in a safehouse bellyaching about how things *should* be, and the movie was just as engaging.
Bushw4cker
Jun 28 2011, 08:48 PM
New Syfy series Alphas.
nezumi
Jul 2 2011, 12:15 PM
QUOTE (Wordman @ Jun 8 2011, 04:05 PM)

Nemesis. Best example of style over substance ever. It also tends to be closer to how Shadowrun is
actually played rather than some idealized notion of how you might want it to be played (i.e. Ronin).
If doing a double feature, I'd add in
Mean Guns.
These two point at very different types of Shadowrun, though. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
If you like your Shadowrun a bit... out there, you might try
Immortal instead.
Okay, I'm charging you four hours for your two really cruddy movies (immortal was too weird for me to say whether it was 'cruddy' or not) and I'm charging Stahsteele four hours for his one doubly-cruddy movie.
This is what I get for following dumpshock's movie suggestions. I just hope Dhoom doesn't disappoint.
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