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CanRay
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Feel More. Do Less.

The Sixth World is full of seductions, and perhaps no siren song is sweeter than that of simsense. Feel the rush of new love without the work of having to date another person. Skydive from the upper reaches of the atmosphere without leaving your couch. Experience every emotion humans are capable of feeling, and do it with a greater intensity than most humans will ever feel. Just don’t spend too much time wondering what it’s doing to your brain.

Alleys and backrooms of every major sprawl in the world are littered with better-than-life junkies who can do nothing but think about their next fix. Reality is nothing more a pale shadow of the vitality and energy they experience with the right chips and downloads. Their need is deep—which, in the hallowed tradition of the Sixth World, means they are ripe for exploitation.

Sim Dreams and Nightmarescontains information about the full range of simsense offerings, as well as new qualities and addiction rules to fully reflect the toll that simsense and better-than-life offerings can take on users. Runners can learn how to deal with the addicts out there—and explore how deep into the seamier side of the Sixth World they want to get.
Mantis
This another one of yours Canray?
Blade
I have to admit I'm more interested in this than in Storm Front.

After an Attitude! where the writers didn't seem to know that there is such thing as legal simsense and where the movies and series of 2070 had little to no difference with today's, there certainly is room for improvement.
Larsine
QUOTE (Mantis @ Mar 14 2013, 09:29 AM) *
This another one of yours Canray?

How could you guess indifferent.gif
CanRay
QUOTE (Mantis @ Mar 14 2013, 03:29 AM) *
This another one of yours Canray?
Yep, this one is mine.

Expect me to pimp it at every opportunity, just like Safehouses. biggrin.gif
hermit
QUOTE (Blade @ Mar 14 2013, 10:33 AM) *
I have to admit I'm more interested in this than in Storm Front.

After an Attitude! where the writers didn't seem to know that there is such thing as legal simsense and where the movies and series of 2070 had little to no difference with today's, there certainly is room for improvement.

YES. So yes. And it doesn't download. frown.gif
Bull
I've passed it along. Hopefully they'll get this fixed up quick.
hermit
Hope so too. Thanks and congrats to the promotion. smile.gif Though I'm wondering, what'll become of your data haven now? wink.gif

Edit: Works now. That was fast. Thanks.

This'll get a review soon.
hermit
Review.

Okay, so let's start with the title image. The image not only looks sweet, it also hammers home the topic of the file. It shows off, but not with seminude babes (which bore me by now, more than anything else) but with hilarious simsense Johnny Spinrad-esque orc versus RL ork bum. The interior art also is quite impressive. AAS is fast becoming THE artist for Shadowrun in this era, much like Mike Jackson and Geier were in early SR. Not that the others are shabby, but he gets the feel I want Shadowrun to have best, I think. And all the detail that's speaking to dedicated fanboys like me.

The opening story is fantastic and pretty much ... well, it deals with the one thing that defined SimSense craziness for me, early on, back when 2E was new and I had just spent two weeks' worth of pocket money on 2XS. It's just a throwaway sentence in that book, and yet it has stayed with me through all these years. This story is the story of that sentence. And it's written in a way, with tone and flavor, that is worthy of Nigel Findley.

Generally, this details the SimSense and BTL usage as I have done for myself, which I of course like. I'm probably biased here, but I think that's a logical expansion on what has been written, and especially the therapeutic SimSense used to 'resocialise' criminals and addicts I have already used, as a private expansion on what SimSense can do. Also, CGL, you totally owe me brain bleach for Hannibelle's comment on snuff beetles.

As aways with Croteau's writing, it's the little details that get me. Victor Vigilante, the intro-fic referencing that one half-sentence from 2XS, the sheep. Hell, I'd pay if he wrote a "runs gone bad" PDF! I feel that, among the current writers, he is among those who most "get" Shadowrun as I love it (and kudos for the Molly Millions shout-out). Also, he's so far the only author whose /dev/grrl writeups make me actually kinda like her. AAS' fantastic art full of inside jokes (Neill!) is the icing on this delicious epub cake. Old Art has seen re-use too, but thoughtfully; the Bunraku pic is among the best Chernik did for SR, and the down-and-out junkie is the weakest art but at least fits in thematically.

The addiction qualities are varied, reasonably balanced, and flavorful. I know a character who has two of them out of hand, and I certainly will use them as soon as I can. That's what the system has been missing, far more than yet another combat rifle, stats for great dragons or Charm of Nurgle, the spell. As with the additional lifestyle qualities of Safehouses, this adds flavor instead of more items of +2. The new addiction list and the simsense-based drugs price list also add to the game, I think.

Some small dark spots cannot be ignored, though they're a wide trend with CGL products. There are typos, more than one, and sometimes glaring. Proofing apparently wasn't effective enough. Neither was editing, some sentences look positively mangled. If editing even happened, this looks a bit like handed in close or slightly over deadline and just handed down to layout for production without any editing happening because a bad product still sells, while editing takes time that could be put to use making more sub-standard product instead.

9/10, with one point below perfect for the nonexistent editing and bad post-writing treatment CGL seems to consider business standard by now.
Blade
Thanks for the review, I'll probably get the file.
CanRay
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
Review.
Reply to your review. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
Okay, so let's start with the title image. The image not only looks sweet, it also hammers home the topic of the file. It shows off, but not with seminude babes (which bore me by now, more than anything else) but with hilarious simsense Johnny Spinrad-esque orc versus RL ork bum. The interior art also is quite impressive. AAS is fast becoming THE artist for Shadowrun in this era, much like Mike Jackson and Geier were in early SR. Not that the others are shabby, but he gets the feel I want Shadowrun to have best, I think. And all the detail that's speaking to dedicated fanboys like me.
Yeah, I really like the cover, and wish I could claim credit for it. But that decision was someone else, and the artwork another person who knocked it out of the park.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
The opening story is fantastic and pretty much ... well, it deals with the one thing that defined SimSense craziness for me, early on, back when 2E was new and I had just spent two weeks' worth of pocket money on 2XS. It's just a throwaway sentence in that book, and yet it has stayed with me through all these years. This story is the story of that sentence. And it's written in a way, with tone and flavor, that is worthy of Nigel Findley.
Want to know something? Same sentence stayed with me, that's why I used it, despite there being 20-game years between when it was used and when I wrote this story. I had a copy of 2XS in my hands as I wrote it one-handed to make sure I got the feel and story right.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
Generally, this details the SimSense and BTL usage as I have done for myself, which I of course like. I'm probably biased here, but I think that's a logical expansion on what has been written, and especially the therapeutic SimSense used to 'resocialise' criminals and addicts I have already used, as a private expansion on what SimSense can do. Also, CGL, you totally owe me brain bleach for Hannibelle's comment on snuff beetles.
I wanted to push home how dark Shadowrun really is, dystopia only goes so far as a word before people stop getting it. Hell, even Snuff Flicks wouldn't have covered it (an actress or two in Sam Raimi's original Evil Dead movie was worried he was making a snuff movie!) So, I went to the deepest, darkest places of Rule 34 of the Internet. The brain bleach is my own personal reaction to what I learned. I figured it was a nice humorous touch after hitting so dark a note.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
As aways with Croteau's writing, it's the little details that get me. Victor Vigilante, the intro-fic referencing that one half-sentence from 2XS, the sheep. Hell, I'd pay if he wrote a "runs gone bad" PDF! I feel that, among the current writers, he is among those who most "get" Shadowrun as I love it (and kudos for the Molly Millions shout-out). Also, he's so far the only author whose /dev/grrl writeups make me actually kinda like her. AAS' fantastic art full of inside jokes (Neill!) is the icing on this delicious epub cake. Old Art has seen re-use too, but thoughtfully; the Bunraku pic is among the best Chernik did for SR, and the down-and-out junkie is the weakest art but at least fits in thematically.
Spare my blushes. I did ask for the Neil artwork I will admit (again, AAS knocked it out of the park!), and am glad someone caught the Molly Millions shout-out. As her story created the idea of Bunraku Parlors in Cyberpunk (Not sure if they existed in Sci-Fi before hand), I felt I had to include it.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
The addiction qualities are varied, reasonably balanced, and flavorful. I know a character who has two of them out of hand, and I certainly will use them as soon as I can. That's what the system has been missing, far more than yet another combat rifle, stats for great dragons or Charm of Nurgle, the spell. As with the additional lifestyle qualities of Safehouses, this adds flavor instead of more items of +2. The new addiction list and the simsense-based drugs price list also add to the game, I think.
My Mother is a cook. I learned to season to taste. wink.gif

That said, I do loves me my gear porn books, so... Yeah, I'm their target audience for that.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
Some small dark spots cannot be ignored, though they're a wide trend with CGL products. There are typos, more than one, and sometimes glaring. Proofing apparently wasn't effective enough. Neither was editing, some sentences look positively mangled. If editing even happened, this looks a bit like handed in close or slightly over deadline and just handed down to layout for production without any editing happening because a bad product still sells, while editing takes time that could be put to use making more sub-standard product instead.
Um, actually, some of those (in the fluff) was intentional. Turbo Bunny is drying out while she's writing that, so it not exactly at her best. Also, because her addiction is being a chiphead, she can't slot "Writer 6.0" knowsoft as she's cleaning out.

QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 14 2013, 09:10 AM) *
9/10, with one point below perfect for the nonexistent editing and bad post-writing treatment CGL seems to consider business standard by now.
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No comment about the second piece of fiction? The one that gives Bull another reason to want to beat me with my own cane? nyahnyah.gif
bannockburn
QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 14 2013, 05:22 PM) *
Want to know something? Same sentence stayed with me, that's why I used it, despite there being 20-game years between when it was used and when I wrote this story. I had a copy of 2XS in my hands as I wrote it one-handed to make sure I got the feel and story right.

That sounds ... vaguely dirty wink.gif
Hamsnibit
What i especially like about this pdf is that CanRay expanded the topic abit and worked out a real nice crunchy part which covers addictions.
The Author has shown profound knowledge about how why,when and how people get addicted to different stimuli and how people can control such things (actually starting with why people even want to start controlling it. The rules are a good balance between playability and simulationism.

It requires quite a bit more effort and an open mind to work yourself through such a taboo and sterotype ridden topic than just looking on the world map to find out that certain warzones which get attacked by naval forces are actually hundreds of kilometers away from the ocean ...

Some characters at our table have their share of drug problems with too. In search for better rules coverage i went to sr3 and created something which comes really close to that what CanRay wrote. It worked really well at our table and the only part which was really different is that i totally handwaived the intervalls and held track about the permanent damage (just until the next appropriate theraphy of course) already inflicted by the addiction which was already at burnout level. Its satisfying that approved authors get similar results now if i just had this rules just half a year earlier, it would have saved me alot of effort nyahnyah.gif

Its a real nice thing to read, totally worth the money and it fits the Cyberpunk definition of grey where only the way how a technology is used defines if the grey is darker or brighter. In this pdf Simsense gets clarified of what it is and what it can do how it should have been covered in Attitude which porovided some bouncy giggle jokes instead.
There are some sentences which strike me a bit as odd but for as im not a native english speaker this prolly doesnt mean too much.
All in all a real good book which made me think about the drug habits of my characters once more.

Actually when i come to think about it - the longer i play shadowrun the more compfortable i get with giving my character addictions or gaining them in play, funny.

CanRay
QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 14 2013, 11:22 AM) *
Want to know something? Same sentence stayed with me, that's why I used it, despite there being 20-game years between when it was used and when I wrote this story. I had a copy of 2XS in my hands as I wrote it one-handed to make sure I got the feel and story right.
QUOTE (bannockburn @ Mar 14 2013, 12:27 PM) *
That sounds ... vaguely dirty wink.gif
When authors do it, it's called research. biggrin.gif
bannockburn
Authors do it from behind ... a keyboard wink.gif
Pepsi Jedi
QUOTE (bannockburn @ Mar 14 2013, 05:00 PM) *
Authors do it from behind ... a keyboard wink.gif


Apparently "One handed" behind the keyboard...
Tymeaus Jalynsfein
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 14 2013, 03:52 PM) *
Apparently "One handed" behind the keyboard...


aaanndddd, we are back to sounding dirty again...
CanRay
Less about the dirty hack of an author, and more about what he just got released, SVP.
Lionhearted
Hm, well you're certainly crazy enough to give simsense justice.
That's a compliment btw
bannockburn
Enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you very much.

Caveat: The usual level of QA

And: I've seen footage of what happened to the sheep. It was awful. frown.gif
CanRay
QUOTE (bannockburn @ Mar 21 2013, 11:37 AM) *
I've seen footage of what happened to the sheep. It was awful. frown.gif
You've seen footage of the wrong 'run then.

Thank you. smile.gif
bannockburn
You mean the thing with the troll and the banyan tree and Marjory's nephews wearing those terrible hats wasn't what happened to the sheep?
Fatum
What was the sentence from 2XS? What the hell, people, some of us couldn't really read 20 years ago :\

Also, as I've come to expect from CanRay, the book is very nice, if indeed in need of some proofreading.
In addition, while I liked the crunch provided, I wish there was more of it, maybe something like the rules for slotting moodchips in Augmentation (was it?). Like, what to do when you've been slotted with a correctional chip, what are the benefits of more complex runner-related personachips, that sort of thing.
hermit
Here's the relevant part. Emphasis mine, but it makes a lot more sense in context.

QUOTE ("Nigel Findley: 2XS")
The throbbing in my left thigh reminded me that, unfortunately, so does everybody else. And too many people aren’t afraid to use that firepower, no matter how small the provocation. Take today, for example. The guy who shot me wasn’t even involved with the case I was working. He was just some wireheaded kid who’d slotted one too many “Slade the Sniper” chips and decided to unload his Streetline Special into a crowd of pedestrians. I just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The kid’s luck wasn’t any better. Very calmly, very professionally, the guy beside me handled the situation by sending a magical fireball back along the line of fire and cooking the kid where he stood. Then the mage just as calmly moved off down an alley, and that was that. Such is life (and death) in the Awakened world.
CanRay
Thanks Hermit. smile.gif
Fatum
Blaming violence on the media, how typical!
CanRay
QUOTE (Fatum @ Mar 23 2013, 06:27 PM) *
Blaming violence on the media, how typical!
Typical, maybe, but appropriate in this case.

Part of Cyberpunk is Future Shock, and what Simsense/BTLs can do is a prime example of that. As is the damaging effect of Personasofts.
Angelone
Did Slade the Sniper take the sheep?
CanRay
QUOTE (Angelone @ Mar 23 2013, 09:32 PM) *
Did Slade the Sniper take the sheep?
No, Slade is a fictional character, and the sheep was a very real sheep on the 'run. nyahnyah.gif

And the guy that thought he was Slade the Sniper died in '52. The "Sheep Incident" happened in late '74.
Angelone
Was the sheep the getaway driver?
CanRay
QUOTE (Angelone @ Mar 23 2013, 10:01 PM) *
Was the sheep the getaway driver?
No, Turbo Bunny was, that's how she screwed up the 'run.
Bull
My vote is Weresheep.
CanRay
I'd have included stats for Sheep Shapechangers if that was the case.
Angelone
Did she think the sheep was the getaway driver?
CanRay
QUOTE (Angelone @ Mar 23 2013, 11:07 PM) *
Did she think the sheep was the getaway driver?
I described what happened to Turbo Bunny specifically, in her own words no less.
Angelone
Yes you did, but I don't care about what happened to her.

Edit- That was harsher than I meant it to be.
CanRay
And it's attitudes like that which will make her slip back into chip addiction. nyahnyah.gif
Angelone
If Ecotope doesn't get to her first.
CanRay
He's not that slotted off to want to kill her. He's already had the opportunity to have all the revenge he'd want.

Now it's just a matter of getting his bill paid, then remind her of her screw-up at every opportunity (off of JackPoint.).
hermit
What did the sheep want?
KCKitsune
QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 24 2013, 02:37 AM) *
What did the sheep want?

The sheep wanted the redneck to stop poking it in the ass! smile.gif
bannockburn
On a sunny day, two scottish scientists decided that one sheep wasn't enough. So they cloned Dolly.
And thus starts the story of that other sheep. wink.gif
Pepsi Jedi
... All rather disturbing things about sheep aside.

.... Far aside....

I want this supplement. I just have a hard time pulling the trigger on $5 for 17 pages. I can acknowledge that they're likely good pages, but that price point is steep for me. I grew up and full length novels were $5. I hate paying $8 or $10 for them today, but paying $5 for 17 pages.. even good pages. That just hurts. That they're digital pages makes it even more painful.
CanRay
It's worth it, Pepsi Jedi.
Pepsi Jedi
The preview on Drive Thru looks good. People speak well about it here. I want it. It's just the price. I've bought others and I like them. I just have a hard time 'supporting' paying that much for a small E-product. Even good stuff. It's condoning the price point that I have the objection to. lol.
CanRay
But you're missing out on so much!!!
Pepsi Jedi
QUOTE (CanRay @ Mar 24 2013, 11:31 PM) *
But you're missing out on so much!!!


I know! lol and it's driving me crazy. I hate being out of the loop.

You'll probably win. I'll probably end up buying it on Friday. I'm weak when it comes to books.
CanRay
QUOTE (Pepsi Jedi @ Mar 24 2013, 11:32 PM) *
I know! lol and it's driving me crazy. I hate being out of the loop.

You'll probably win. I'll probably end up buying it on Friday. I'm weak when it comes to books.
Search your feelings, you know getting it is what you want to be true!
tasti man LH
I bought it myself today, although I can't really sit down to read since I have work to do.

(as I continue to puzzle over how a BTL-addicted A.I. works...)
Fatum
If you buy it, the capitalists have already won.
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