So, Attitude plus Runner's Companion then?
Also, metatypes in the Fifth world?

To be honest I'd prefer a big dedicated book to Metatypes and their Metavariants in the Sixth world.

I have Attitude and a few Runner's Companion.

Edit: Sixth, not Fifth world.

For all I know of the Fifth world, we don't have metatypes.
Unless you consider the racist grumbling valid.

Pardon?

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Edit: Ahh never mind. "Sixth" world. It's 4 am here and I'm about to crash.

No idea. Hand bone analysis? Computer projection based on fragmentary data and simplistic simulations of processes not understood? Or maybe someone asked Ehran.

Cannot say. I only gave you the facts as the book stated them. It also stated elves are nocturnal vegetarians, btw.


There was a Kaér full of immortal dwarfs under the Rhine-Ruhr megaplex once, but Lars Ullrich killed them.


In either Loose Alliances or Shadows of Asia, the Atlantean Foundation found "something big" in the Cuacasian mountains. they also employed indentured dwarfs to dig it out.


I assume you want "Sixth World Life"? But other than that, I agree. A book that examines a few issues, like how metahuman fesatures affect the sixth world, and how life in metahuman states is diffrent from life in human-centric places. And a few more meta-heavy/creature-heavy places than the Tírs examined as settings, with daily life and fashion and such, would be nice too. There's Hawai'i, Germany/Troll Republic, Mongolia, Manchuria, Amazonia, Azania/Zulu, Asamondo, and absolutely nobody's stopping you from being creative with Africa aside from Ghouls and the Zulu. Wakyambi kingdom, or maybe a dwarf-only realm? Could be cast as a traveling guide or something.

Could you please go into a bit more detail as to what they might be digging up there?
For alt.War, you see.

It was just a throwaway sentence, sadly... I'll see that I find it and just quote it.

In my defense, I was very, very tired when I typed that.

Thank you. What is that Throal bit about, though?

ShadowDragon8685, sure, no worries.

Throal was the major Dwarven Kingdom in Earthdawn.

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~Umi

Informative, thank you so much.

Wait a second... are my players the only people who used said Bunraku's services? Despite describing the layout of the Deli, the establishment below and the "noises" behind the steel door in detail, they thought the price was a steal.

Also,

Ew dude. Did you read the description of that place??

Yes, I did read it out loud to the players.

You're not (ish). One of mine used the services to scout the place (she ordered the doll to sit in a corner and face the wall after choosing the most submissive settings possible). Interestingly, that's the player who tried to pull a fast one on the other players to save Torrini's neck.

Yeaaah but that's not using the nasty nasty stuff there. That was scouting. had she engaged in sex with the dirty nasty skanky slaved girls or boys there, had sex with them, that'd have been using the services. If all she did was make the poor woman face a wall, that's not 'USING' them.

That's pretty nasty. Are your players purposefully playing "Bad guys"? In my time gaming there's been a few campaigns where we've purposefully played bad/evil sorts.

My group is getting that way. They're getting in bed with some really nasty customers, including the guy that almost wiped out half of Seattle's Downtown with a bus.

Yeah, but how can you help but love a bomb-crazy Irishman? Hell, the only way you could make it better would be to make it a boom-crazy Irishwoman who looks like Gabrielle Anwar.

@CanRay

I feel it vitally important to specifically state a bus-bomb in the future, because this is Shadowrun, and I'm quite ready to believe someone somewhere has or will eventually find a way to wipe out half of Seattle's downtown with just a bus.

@ShadowDragon8685

While I do like the character of Fiona, one of my favorite moments in the entire show was when in one of the later seasons they make a metajoke where one of her old Irish pals complains about how she's "lost her accent". Anwar and Donovan are both superb actors, but their ability to affect accents is like "Marry-Poppins-Dick-Van-Dyke" levels of bad.

~Umi

The best one of those was, in my opinion, when Fiona's brother shows up unexpectedly, and Mike has to immediately reassume his cover identity from then... Then later on he proposes that he'll pretend to be an American, using his regular voice... And the Irishman cringes a bit and says "I dunno, mate... Your accent's a little dodgy."

Mike gets this incredulous look and looks back to Sam, who gestures "little bit" with his fingers.

That's the 'ish' part, Pepsi.

But it was just a wee little bus bomb, nae ta be worried about.

See, that's just it. There's no objective scale of "Shmowzow To Be Worryin' About" in Shadowrun. I never know how to gauge things.

Like, I've seen a runner team get mostly wiped out by a helicopter gunship which their badass Street Sams simply couldn't even dent, only to have the team's face employ Commanding Voice and Voice Control to force the pilot to nosedive into a skyscraper. I've seen throwing adepts kill corpsec teams with marshmallows, and I've seen a pixie use another pixie's unconscious body to K.O. a troll bullet sponge. I've seen exploding washing machines, possessed firebreathing Daruma Dolls, and an inbred redneck gnome who could hypnotise huge crowds of people with his devil-won banjo powers. I've seen magically empowered hammerhead sharks eviscerate dockworkers on dry land and dehydrated pygmy goats used as implements of torture. I've seen suicide bombings where the only survivor was the perpetrator, and I've seen desperation and sheer bravado make heroes out of ingenious madmen.

So when you mention "the guy that almost wiped out half of Seattle's Downtown with a bus", I don't think a mad bomber, I think either a dice-blessed rigger on hyperdrugs caught up in some insane vehicle chese sequence during a Thanksgiving Parade, or a hulked out troll wading through blood soaked streets whose sledgehammer finally snapped from metal fatigue and decided the improvise a new one via the transit system.

~Umi

Umi, sometimes I love you.

You know, I'm not sure which one of those stories I'm most curious about. I'm gonna have to go with "yes".

But have you seen attack ships on fire off the Shoulder of Orion?

Besides, how in nine hells can a pilot hear anyone's commanding voice over the engines and the guns?

@Freya



@Fatum

Voice Control allows you to both speak at 100 decibels and magically throw your voice. I had forgotten about that second fact intitially, and had your exact reaction, but the face made a very valid argument that I couldn't really deny.

~Umi


Spoler tags added due to disgusting content.

I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like... tears in rain.

Was that really needed to post on a public board?

Was that even really necessary even to describe in-game?

My brother once commented, "If you ever want to see evil, give players a prisoner. The torture will just pop out."

This information has rarely been disproven.

My apologies. I even tried to describe it flatly and technically, without detail. To me, it reads very neutrally, but on reflection I do suppose I should have spoilered it to be safe. My bad.

Curious the things that bother people. We had that discussion in the other thread about how to feed the global ghoul population and no one batted an eye. I've had players who've been unmoved by brutal violence, but who got angry with me for employing vulgarity to flesh out scumbag NPCs. We're not very logical creatures, we humans, are we?

And this all kind of ties into the larger topic I was addressing - Shadowrun seems to bring out extremes of behavior and thought, often unpredictably so.

~Umi

Necessary? No, not remotely. But then, it was the players doing the describing.

And when they get into the thick of their nefarious deeds, I tend to be somewhat dumbstruck (either because of the sheer genius involved or the sheer absurdity) and find it best to just let them get it out of their system and veto it afterwards only if I must.

~Umi

I, for one, was imagining this scene from a movie, don't remember which one, where a couple of guys threaten to use a goat on a tied up opponent if he didn't talk. They did not go into specifics, but while the process did apparantly involve pulling the fellow's pants down, it definately had nothing to do with his feet.


-k

Sometimes letting a person's own imagination works best.

However, if it was a young goat looking for milk...

By that standard, I don't think there's any difference between "Shadowrun" and just "gaming," or even "the internet."

@Umi: Well, that certainly clears things up. (Incidentally, sorry to open you up to various "omg why did you post that" from others on the board.)

Eh, my own fault. I'm a bit... different... in my thinking, sometimes. Not your fault I lack some aspects of common sense or social graces.

Besides, I was the one who picked that particular segment to explain. Could have easily talked about any of the other bizarre things I mentioned. (In fact, on reflection, I do believe I've posted about the Levitating Oxygenated shark incident somewhere on here previously...)

~Umi