FXcalibur
May 5 2004, 06:17 PM
You might catch them on RPGnet, but I meet most on other-boards-idon't-think-I-can-post-because-they're-adult-material.
Edit: Might want to note somethingawful as well.
Thistledown
May 5 2004, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (Kagetenshi) |
At some point I need to finish making that Battle Angel/Shadowrun conversion that I'd been toying with the idea of for a while…
|
I've done versions of Alita in her different suits and used her as an NPC in one run (well, one of the suits was in another run, but nobody in it at the time.) The plasma cutter hand is a wonderful weapon. I ruled that the plasma could also be enlarged and used as a shield against most projectiles.
If you leave off things like essence, most of battle angel works. Rokangus has a character who's based off Desty Nova.
Wasn't that crazy about the movie compared to the manga, but not bad.
Now I'm just waiting for Last Order volume 4 to be translated (and 5, but the japanese one just came out for that, so it'll be a while.)
Austere Emancipator
May 5 2004, 06:20 PM
FXcalibur: That's really pathetic. They might as well shun dark elves "Because people with dark skin are like bad, d00d."
FXcalibur
May 5 2004, 06:26 PM
AE, where'd you get that idea? I'm not biased against furries or anime, I thought I explained how I was looking at the situation in my other post. Or is my wording not very good? Or do you not approve of my take on the situation?
Austere Emancipator
May 5 2004, 06:29 PM
I said "they". I have no idea what your take on the situation is, and I did not mean to imply that I do not approve of it. I do not approve of those people's take on the situation who think "Furries = Bad".
Neon Tiger
May 5 2004, 06:29 PM
@Kagetenshi, Fahr: I once made a Battle Angel Alita-ripoff character. I intented to give it to some player when they wanted to play a -5 Amnesia char.

She was pretty much loaded up to notch with cyber and bio. She even fought one of my players characters in a "Illegal streetfighting tournament"-type Shadowrun and was able to win, even if she was a starting character and the players character was 300 karma char who was mostly geared to melee.
Lindt
May 5 2004, 06:30 PM

Down boys. Back on track.
The concept is great (truly fucked up, but great), and Id have made this point 5 hours ago, but I was side tracked by Sailor Nothing. Danka for the linkage, its totally shot what ever I was to acomplish today.
Im NO expert, as my manga choice is Cowboy Beebop, and after my sisters friend invaded my house with a box of Sailor Moon and friends DVDs, I was despretly in need of a beer, a cigerette, and 302 V8 so I didnt feel so poluted. Im defintly keeping this concept in mind if/when I run a truly f*ed up game someday.
FXcalibur
May 5 2004, 06:31 PM
Oh. If I may be blunt, misunderstandings suck =/
I think I've disrupted the poor thread enough. I'll be off now.
Austere Emancipator
May 5 2004, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (FXcalibur) |
If I may be blunt, misunderstandings suck |
I'd rather use some even blunter phrase, but we agree in principle.
Kagetenshi
May 5 2004, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Fahr) |
Alita is awesome Kagetenshi... though I liked the Manga more than the adaption. |
Oh, definitely. The original manga (and the new manga series) were both far superior. That doesn't mean that I don't like the movie, or that I don't like the fact that there's a movie; I hope they make more movies out of the series. It'd definitely adapt well to Shadowrun, though it'd take some reworking of Essence and other things to encourage full-borgization.
~J
Eyeless Blond
May 5 2004, 06:45 PM
QUOTE (Lindt) |
The concept is great (truly fucked up, but great), and Id have made this point 5 hours ago, but I was side tracked by Sailor Nothing. Danka for the linkage, its totally shot what ever I was to acomplish today. |
You're welcome.

If you really want to have a few days chewed up, read through the same writer's
Slayers fanfiction and/or the original work
UNreal Estate. Twoflower's got some of the best writing I've ever seen; he's certainly the best writer I've ever read who wasn't published in dead-tree format.
RangerJoe
May 5 2004, 07:18 PM
RELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!
Sorry. Just thought it needed to be said.
Card Captor Sakura would make such a good adept.....
Cain
May 5 2004, 07:53 PM
For the record, the "weapons out of nowhere" could be a manifestation of combat or elemental manipulation spells with touch-range. It's just a special effect, after all.
Connor
May 5 2004, 08:17 PM
QUOTE (Abstruse) |
And you might like stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Battle Angel Alita, and Ghost in the Shell as they're all at least marginally cyberpunk and are generally serious in tone. And I DARE you to watch Grave of the Fireflies without crying by the end. |
I'll second those choices. And I have to say, Grave of the Fireflies...don't watch it if you're in a good mood. It's amazing, but it's definately going to have you on a huge down note at the end of it.
I have to say though, Cowboy Bebop is probably one of my all-time favorites, anime or not. And the dubbing is excellent, so you don't have to worry about bad voice acting. I've noticed that a lot of good anime is ruined by the voice acting, so if you don't like watching sub-titled stuff it's hard to find anime you can take seriously with all the bad voice acting in it.
But, some people just don't like the genre I suppose. Although I can't see why anyone into cyberpunk and Shadowrun type stuff can't at least get into things like Akira or Ghost in the Shell or other similarly themed anime. Especially since it's all drawing from the same basic stuff for inspiration.
Garland
May 5 2004, 09:12 PM
QUOTE (Cain) |
For the record, the "weapons out of nowhere" could be a manifestation of combat or elemental manipulation spells with touch-range. It's just a special effect, after all. |
Wow. That's a really great thought... must create character with touch-range spells...
Moonstone Spider
May 5 2004, 10:25 PM
Hey, Rabid Furry convention. That's an idea, it's bound to be the one place in the SR universe where a Shapeshifter can be completely safe though surrounded by metahumans. Have to be a way to work that into a run someday.
But back to the important issue, Magical Girl Shadowrunners. Is there any obvious problem with this build I should fix? Or is there any tweak I should use that would keep her in-character while making her less likely to die in the first turn of any combat?
A Clockwork Lime
May 5 2004, 10:32 PM
QUOTE |
But back to the important issue, Magical Girl Shadowrunners. Is there any obvious problem with this build I should fix? |
Beyond the lack of being able to find any serious employment in the shadows?
Connor
May 5 2004, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime) |
QUOTE | But back to the important issue, Magical Girl Shadowrunners. Is there any obvious problem with this build I should fix? |
Beyond the lack of being able to find any serious employment in the shadows? |
I haven't seen that stop characters less fit for it than this before, so I dont' see why it should be a problem now...
A Clockwork Lime
May 5 2004, 11:02 PM
I dunno. I doubt if I would hire a psychotic chick dressed in a little school girl outfit for anything resembling most shadow jobs. But maybe that's just me.
'Course I feel the same way about most otaku, obvious ghouls, and other majorly oddball characters.
Cain
May 5 2004, 11:04 PM
Aw, c'mon. If they hire psychotic trolls with day-glo mohawks for runs, they'll hire girls in schoolgirl outfits. Of course, what *kind* of jobs they get becomes an issue. I'm sure someone will hire her, it's just a question of what she's hired to do.
Moonstone Spider
May 5 2004, 11:18 PM
If we realistically played who a Johnson would hire I suspect 90% of Shadowrunners would be out of a job. Frankly in real life no corp would hire runners, they'd just use corp security and fudge the books to hide their involvment and screw hiring dangerous, unpredictable, and generally unstable beings.
FXcalibur
May 5 2004, 11:51 PM
I've always envisioned it to be this: runners are hired for when they need professionals, but can't spare their own shadow ops-esque division men. I believe runners are hired for jobs that require more skill than the average secguard or 'security guy'. but with a very low survival rate, so they can't risk that brand spanking new cyberzombie they just created. Why waste 16++ million when he's probably going to die? That's where runners come in.
broho_pcp
May 6 2004, 12:01 AM
Dang it you're right, I guess I better get out of the bizz b/f I die....
Phaeton
May 6 2004, 01:23 AM
QUOTE (FXcalibur) |
I've always envisioned it to be this: runners are hired for when they need professionals, but can't spare their own shadow ops-esque division men. I believe runners are hired for jobs that require more skill than the average secguard or 'security guy'. but with a very low survival rate, so they can't risk that brand spanking new cyberzombie they just created. Why waste 16++ million when he's probably going to die? That's where runners come in. |
Not to mention half the time the badass secsquad is the group sent to HUNT DOWN the runners when they frag up things horribly.
Siege
May 6 2004, 01:32 AM
QUOTE (RangerJoe) |
RELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!
Sorry. Just thought it needed to be said.
Card Captor Sakura would make such a good adept..... |
My God(dess), they're coming out of the woodwork.

And, if you can get past the name, "Big O".
-Siege
Kagetenshi
May 6 2004, 01:41 AM
Well, the name and the opening credits…
~J
Crusher Bob
May 6 2004, 03:29 AM
It is just me or does it sound like Queen?
simonw2000
May 6 2004, 07:49 AM
Here one for you.
Body 4
Quickness 4
Strength 5
Charisma 4
Intelligence 5
Willpower 5
Essence 6
Run Mult. 3
Magic 6
Reaction 4
Init. Dice 1
Sorcery [5]
Conjuring [5]
Enchanting [5]
Performance/Dancing [3/5]
P:Edged Weapons/Katana [3/5]
Biotech/First Aid [3/5]
P:MA:Capoeira [5]
P:MA:Capoeira/MN:Kick Attack [2]
P:MA:Capoeira/MN:Kip Up [2]
Magical Power(Path:Magician) Geas:Incantation [4] 3
Astral Perception 2
Imp Abl Combat Skl/MA:Capoeira(STR) [2] 1
Edit: Removed Imp Katana, put it into Capoeira
Moonstone Spider
May 6 2004, 10:01 AM
That actually looks pretty typically adept to me Simonw, melee combat and katanas. Magical girls rarely use weapons at all, and when they do it's usually a bow or some funky pole arm like a glaive or a scythe.
Personally I think Big O would make a lousy physical adept. Unless there's adept powers I don't know of that make the character a 90-foot tall robot.
simonw2000
May 6 2004, 10:45 AM
Personally, I reckoned that a Magical Girl using Capoeira was a good idea at the time. And guess what I think they could do for a thesis...
Siege
May 6 2004, 12:08 PM
QUOTE (Moonstone Spider) |
That actually looks pretty typically adept to me Simonw, melee combat and katanas. Magical girls rarely use weapons at all, and when they do it's usually a bow or some funky pole arm like a glaive or a scythe. |
The "magical girl" still revolves around the typical Japanese vision for women and the weapons they use.
Granted, only samurai would think of a ten foot pole with another foot of steel as a "woman's weapon", but there ya go.
-Siege
Kagetenshi
May 6 2004, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (Moonstone Spider) |
Personally I think Big O would make a lousy physical adept. Unless there's adept powers I don't know of that make the character a 90-foot tall robot. |
"My name is Roger the Negotiator."
No one ever said we had to be copying the robot…
~J
simonw2000
May 6 2004, 06:07 PM
Current version of my Magical Girl:
Attributes:
Body 3
Quickness 5
Strength 5
Charisma 4
Intelligence 5
Willpower 5
Essence 6
Run Mult. 3
Magic 6
Reaction 5
Init. Dice 1
Active Skills:
Sorcery 5
Conjuring 5
Enchanting 5
MA:Capoeira 6
MA:Capoeira/MN:Kick Attack 2
MA:Capoeira/MN:Kip Up 2
MA:Capoeira/MN:Disorient 2
Performance/Dancing 3/5
Artisan/Drawing 2/4
Knowledge Skills:
Japanese Culture 5
Popular Culture 4
Comics/Magical Girl 2/4
Language Skills:
English 5 (R/W 2)
Japanese 5 (R/W 2)
Adept Powers:
Magical Power(Path:Magician) Geas:Incantation [4] 3
Astral Perception 2
Imp Abl Combat Skl/P:MA:Capoeira(STR) [2] 1
Spells:
Powerbolt (EC) 5 P B® I LOS +1(DL)
Gecko Crawl (EC) 5 P 4 S LOS +2(M)
Heal (EC) 6 M 10-E(V) P T (DL)
Physical Mask (EC) 5 P 4® S LOS +1(M)
Fashion 4 P 6 P T +1(L)
Pools:
Karma 1
Spell 5
Combat 7
Astral 7
Gear:
Silver Credstick Rating 5
Conjuring Library Rtg. 5
Sorcery Library Rtg. 5
Edges/Flaws
Resistance to Toxins 1
Combat Monster -1
Impulsive -2
Vindictive -2
Should I ditch Astral Perception?
Kakkaraun
May 6 2004, 06:23 PM
I personally think that Cowboy Bebop is not only THE best anime (period), but one of the best shows that has ever, or will ever, ever, ever exist. Half of the episodes are named after Dylan or Stones tunes, that right there is awesome. It's got a great style, great...everything. I also really liked Ghost in the Shell (although I really dig most of the stuff normal people call "pretentious"), and of course Akira...I harbor a certain love for Armitage the Third, mainly because it's okay, and it was the first good anime I saw.
JongWK
May 6 2004, 06:23 PM
QUOTE |
no, I just hate any "all (insert category) are bad" comments, I would defend Rap the same way I do anime, even though I personally don't like most rap. it's an aversion to extreme categorization that I don't like. |
Let's put it this way: There's a tons of crap in Anime, but there are also outstanding gems. Same as in American movies or comics (we all get a hundred clones of Gigli for every Saving Private Ryan out there).
QUOTE |
Alita is awesome Kagetenshi... though I liked the Manga more than the adaption. |
QUOTE |
and for one no one has probably ever heard of but I really enjoyed (even though the animation was not that good, the story was very good) Rose of Versaille. |
Dude, that is so... late 1970s or early 1980s.

For some hysterical laughs, watch Dominion Tank Police.
Austere Emancipator
May 6 2004, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (JongWK) |
we all get a hundred clones of Gigli for every Saving Private Ryan out there |
Luckily we only get one Battlefield Earth per American History X.
Simonw2000: I object to that because women who are good dancers and practice capoeira should be banned by law. Or at least made to live in separate compounds where they'd have no contact with men other than those they are currently romantically connected with.
Neon Tiger
May 6 2004, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) |
Simonw2000: I object to that because women who are good dancers and practice capoeira should be banned by law. Or at least made to live in separate compounds where they'd have no contact with men other than those they are currently romantically connected with. |
Have some bad experiences from Capoeira dancer girls, eh?
Austere Emancipator
May 6 2004, 07:22 PM
You're a regular Sherlock aintcha?

Although I wouldn't actually say "bad".
[Edit]Somehow I read that you had CHA 6 on her and not 4. No worries, then.[/Edit]
simonw2000
May 6 2004, 08:02 PM
Should I remove Astral Perception or not?
Cain
May 6 2004, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (simonw2000) |
Should I remove Astral Perception or not? |
Yes. Get Magic Sense instead. Possibly Empathic Sense as well. Much cheaper, and can do similar things.
simonw2000
May 7 2004, 09:37 AM
Done and also got Smashing Blow, and Killing Hands S. Geased, obviously. And removed Improved Capoeira to make room.
simonw2000
May 7 2004, 09:49 AM
QUOTE (Connor) |
QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime @ May 5 2004, 05:32 PM) | QUOTE | But back to the important issue, Magical Girl Shadowrunners. Is there any obvious problem with this build I should fix? |
Beyond the lack of being able to find any serious employment in the shadows? |
I haven't seen that stop characters less fit for it than this before, so I dont' see why it should be a problem now...
|
How true. How very true.
simonw2000
May 7 2004, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) |
FXcalibur: That's really pathetic. They might as well shun dark elves "Because people with dark skin are like bad, d00d." |
Saying that is like saying Drizzt Do'Urden is evil. Now there's an idea...
Siege
May 7 2004, 01:01 PM
Feh -- I can't stand that author's work. The first book, Icewind Dale was interesting. After that, it got bad and became worse.
Don't even get me started on that bloody soul-magic-stone-thingy series. Second time in my life I've ever hurled a book across the room.
That and every drow wanna-be seems to have adopted Drizzit Do'Urden as their patron avatar. (although, to be fair, I did use one of his quotes as my senior year blurb

)
One last point about "Big O" -- the voice actors that do Spike and Faye in English on Cowboy BeBop are also on "Big O". That sold me on the series.

-Siege
CardboardArmor
May 7 2004, 01:06 PM
Hell, just give her a no-dachi. It feeds that niggling little desire to give her a katana that you know exists within you and fulfills the 'obscene(ly penile) and unrealistic weapon size' caveat associated with these sorts.
simonw2000
May 7 2004, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (Siege) |
That and every drow wanna-be seems to have adopted Drizzit Do'Urden as their patron avatar. (although, to be fair, I did use one of his quotes as my senior year blurb ) |
Which one was that?
Siege
May 7 2004, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (simonw2000) |
QUOTE (Siege @ May 7 2004, 01:01 PM) | That and every drow wanna-be seems to have adopted Drizzit Do'Urden as their patron avatar. (although, to be fair, I did use one of his quotes as my senior year blurb ) |
Which one was that?
|
"Where in the 9 Hells did you get the idea I would fight fair?"
-Siege
QUOTE (Siege) |
QUOTE (simonw2000 @ May 7 2004, 02:31 PM) | QUOTE (Siege @ May 7 2004, 01:01 PM) | That and every drow wanna-be seems to have adopted Drizzit Do'Urden as their patron avatar. (although, to be fair, I did use one of his quotes as my senior year blurb ) |
Which one was that?
|
"Where in the 9 Hells did you get the idea I would fight fair?"
-Siege
|
I think that's a qoute all Runners live by to tell you the truth.
danbot37
May 8 2004, 12:39 AM
QUOTE (Crusher Bob @ May 6 2004, 03:29 AM) |
It is just me or does it sound like Queen? |
Yeah, i noticed that too. Sounds very close to the Queen's themesong to Flash Gordon in the old movie.
Glyph
May 8 2004, 05:35 AM
You know, if all of these young girls are going to run around fighting evil in short skirts, they need a protector. You know, someone in a domino mask who says things like "You can do it, Sailor Steyr!" or "Kick him in the nads! The nads!" Presenting...
Tuxedo Troll
Here is the breakdown:
A: Magic (Adept of the Magical Way)
B: Attributes
C: Race
D: Skills
E: Resources (Troll-adjusted: 5,000.00 - 25% = 3,750.00)
Troll Adept of the Magical Way (Dragonslayer Totem)
Attributes -
Body: 7(8 )
Quickness: 4
Strength: 7
Charisma: 4
Intelligence: 4
Willpower: 6
Essence: 6
Magic: 6 (4)
Reaction: 4
Initiative: 4 + 1d6
Combat Pool: 7
Spell Pool: 4
Karma Pool: 1
Edges -
Bravery
Bonus Attribute Point
Good Looking and Knows It
Flaws -
Bio-Rejection
Compulsive: Anime/Manga Fanboy (-1)
Distinctive Style
Active Skills -
Biotech/First Aid: 3/5
Brawling: 6
Conjuring: 3
Etiquette: 4
Sorcery/Spellcasting: 5/7
Stealth: 4
Knowledge Skills -
(Languages)
English: 4 Read/Write: 2
Japanese: 4 Read/Write: 2
(Other Skills)
Anime & Manga: 5
Fashion/Cosplay: 3/5
Inspirational Speeches: 4
Japanese Pop Culture: 4
Adept Abilities -
Magical Ability: 4 (with Gesture geas)
Improved Ability/Brawling: 6
Spells -
Manabolt: 6*
Stunbolt: 6*
Heal: 4
Trid Entertainment (Exclusive): 1(3)
Makeover (Exclusive): 1(3)
Nova: 6*
* = Exclusive for Lower Drain
Contacts -
Anime/Manga Store Owner (Level 1)
Dojo Owner (Level 1)
Lifestyles: 1 Low (1 Month).
Credstick Balance: 3d6 x 100 Nuyen.
Gear -
Armor/Clothing: Secure Jacket, Ordinary Clothing (x 5), Fine Clothing (x 1).
Other Gear: Duffel Bag (of 100 Nuyen cost), Medkit (Rating: 6) with 1 Refill, Ration Bars (10 Days), Music Player/Quad Speakers/10 Disks, Telecom (5 Mp).
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