There are just so many things Run Faster does not cover that it should. But we will keep it on here rather than go into my shapeshifter rant.
It is a good point that we don't know what the exact amount required is, but if you only need one meal of it to survive it would not be unreasonable to assume that the meal should largely be made up of the required element.
RAI vs RAW I know, mea culpa.....

Plus MijRaj also pointed out on the other forum that even if it IS one meal made up of the required element, with daily consumption being 2-4 lbs for an average human that one meal out of the total that has to be metahuman is just under a third of that, allowing that 2-4 lbs probably counts for 3 meals a day plus limited snacking.
So assuming 2lbs of various meats and ghoul caps in total to keep body and tainted soul together, it would only require just under 0.67 lbs of metahuman a day to meet the requirement with the rest being filled in other meats.
Compare this to the older editions 1% per week requirement, with a 180lb ghoul needing 1.8lbs of metahuman over the week.
Which gives us a requirement of about 0.26 lbs a day on average so there is not actually as great a difference between the two values as it might initially appear.


Yes, let's not discuss 'water memory' as that raises disturbing questions that the water gurus never seem to like trying to answer.

Looking back I have to agree Jerky should be treated as concentrated magic goodness for figuring how much a ghould needs to eat.
So if a ghoul had a 0.67lb daily requirement from my math above that would equal 0.23lbs of troll jerky (assuming 65% weight loss through drying) to make it through the day.


Dunno, depends on the "water memory" of what water is left after you open it.
Just kidding

Freeze drying and Vac Bagging the meat should certainly keep the meat pretty much intact for a good long time.
How this might reflect in the trace essence with the meat? No idea, but we can give Patrick Goodman some more nightmares by asking.
*just has to check to see how far out the restraining order is for now and which copcorp is enforcing it this week*

I think since the bit the ghouls need is sort of 'magical', even if really on the low end of the mana spectrum, at my table I would allow it but still call a 1 month (lunar cycle) limit on it for fulfilling the dietary requirement.
So they could eat it afterwards as it is still raw meat, but it would lack that special something after the one month mark and thus leave you with a grumbling need for something fresher just for some sort of limit on it and semi-mystical associations.
I want to give ghouls options, not a way to completely circumnavigate their conditional needs.
Having a ghoul sitting on a bunker full of FrostyBobsPacks™ so that they do not have to hunt metahumans or not even make special arrangements for someone else to round up the eats for them for the next 5 years really doesn't sit well with me and makes it just that much harder to sell the idea to others.

You're missing the magical component in this; cats in the real world don't suffer from a magical compulsion to hunt anything, but ghouls do, as I referenced in my quotes from Crimson.

I have two responses to this brilliant post:

1.) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cannibals.23232.jpg

2.) I've decided to start calling it the Infamous Smoker. It's like something from Darkest Dungeon. I remember an episode of Dukes of Hazzard where the Duke boys have to outrun the law because there's a still in their vehicle and they can't be caught with the still. The same dynamic would occur every time there was a vehicle chase in your Shadowrun game, on account of the Infamous Smoker.

I guess a dehydrator would work as well as a smoker for that purpose, but for some reason the smoker seems funnier to me as an episodic trope.

I wonder if there would be away around the salt and smoke restrictions by making the salt and smoke magical. Like what if the salt is magical salt from the Dead Sea and the smoke is from woodchips from some sacred mesquite tree, or something like that? And every time it's used there's a small thanksgiving ceremony that the ghoul carries out.

"All hail the Blood God R'honald Magh'donald and I give thanks for his gift of meat. May my bullets continue to find their targets and body armor be too cumbersome to comfortably wear during the hot summer weather."

Maybe it could be balanced a bit by the magical smoking and jerky reagents being expensive and hard to get, or something like that.

*sighs wistfully*
It's true, once your (or your ancestor's) pic gets out on the Matrix it's never ever gone for good.

But you do have to remember that there is a difference between a human cannibal and a ghoul in that a ghoul can not process cooked meats whereas many cannibals won't have that problem and indeed may prefer it well done to Elf tartare.


Heh, Jerky reagents.

Still there may be some merit to the idea if you are taking the time to find components/rituals that would not interfere/disrupt the residual essence.
But it would have to be a pretty delicate process otherwise it's magics would just wipe the faint lingering essence. So yeah, the bits for it probably wouldn't be easy to find or cheap.
Nice thing about Magic is you can Never say Never.
I would still have a limit on how long the potency of the Magic Jerky goes though, extending it a month or two is fine--maybe a year and a day as absolute tops if you are throwing in a ritual (and Karma?) to complete.
But like I mentioned in a previous post, we want to avoid multi-year shelf lives if possible.

Edit: However even if the smoked meat did not contain the essence necessary to fulfil the dietary requirement, there is nothing to say they could not round out their diet with some smoked meat in addition to the actual meat that must still contain some essence of metahuman since the daily requirement is a fairly a small amount.
Assuming they can keep it down of course.
It is a question of does it count as raw or cooked as ghouls tend not to be able to hold down cooked foods.
I am inclined to let is be the former if not overdone, your image linked above is pretty much a barbeque so would be cooked.
But it could swing either way and will pass it along to see what others think.

And how can you not love a scene like the following:
*Two KE are sifting through the remains of a crime scene at a (formerly safe) Yak safehouse.*
You smell that Johnson?

What, that burnt sweet smell Sarge?

Probie, that is the smell of Brazilian kiwi bark and New Zealand blood salts.

What's it mean Sarge?

*The older cop spits through the doorway out into the night as he rubs his St Jude medallion*
It means the Yaks just got invited to a party and they are NOT going to like what's on the appetizer tray...

Got this from the Patrick on the other forum today:

Well, glad to see we've attracted Patrick's attention on this, as he's the developer who has taken all of the Infected to be his purview (his words). Please keep us informed on his input (and hopefully he'll manage to get logged back in here).

Later on this evening I should have my post on a fully fleshed-out revamping and streamlining for HMHVV and HMHGV ready.

In regards to the use of magical preparation as suggested by Wounded Ronin above, he did come back with this:


So there is precedence giving that some vamps are using mojo to prolong the shelf life of their favourite red and we might see something down the road.

So the Infamous Smoker may still be viable.

YAY!

Ok, the holiday season gave the time to both think things over and, through friend-of-friend searching, to also find a physician who was willing to render some assistance to my efforts of assigning more correct viral taxonomy.

I've decided to go with the "really streamlined" option – as per this earlier post – which will reduce the Infected down to just vampires and ghouls. Like I said, they get most of the press in-game anyway. To support that, here is updated viral taxonomy, along with updated Critter templates:


HMHVV

Isolated in 2034 by Dr. Emil Harz and Dr. Carla Greenbaum, this magical virus transforms victims into vampires.

Viral Taxonomy
Group:....Group VIII (Magically Active Viruses)
Order:.....none
Family:...Vryolakiviridae
Genus:....Strigoivirus
Species:..Human-Metahuman Vampiric Virus

Etymology Notes
Based on their names, the researchers who isolated this virus aren’t themselves Greek or Eastern European, so I assume that they were just by people with a Classical education. At any rate, I tried to try to stay close to Greek terminology/folklore for this virus. The Greek vampire, the Vyrolakas, is the classic corporeal vampire of Greek and Eastern European folklore. The Strigoi is a Roman/Romanian vampire.

Viral Infection Mechanics
Vector: Special
Penetration: Special
Power: Special
Notes: If the vampire uses its Essence Drain power to drain a victim to 0 Essence, it might infect them with HMHVV. Make an Opposed Test, rolling the vampire’s Magic + Charisma versus the victim’s Body + Willpower. If the vampire wins, its victim becomes infected. If the victim wins, they die (a 0 Essence score = death). An infected victim enters into a near-death state for 24 hours, then awakens with 1 Essence and overwhelming hunger to drain Essence from the first metahuman unlucky enough to encounter them.

Critter Template
Physical Attributes: +2 to all Physical Attributes
Mental Attributes: +2 to all Mental Attributes
Powers: Compulsion, Dual Natured, Enhanced Senses (Hearing, Low-light Vision, Smell, Thermographic Vision), Essence Drain, Fear, Immunity (Age, Pathogens, Toxins), Infection, Influence, Magician, Mist Form, Natural Weapon (Bite: (STR+1)P, AP -1, -1 Reach), Regeneration, Sapience, Other (+1 initiative die, +1 to all movement rates)
Weaknesses: Allergy (Sunlight, Severe), Dietary Requirement (Metahuman Blood), Essence Loss (every month), Induced Dormancy (Lack of Air, (Essence) Minutes), Vulnerability (Wood)
Notes: The victim’s skin becomes paler and their lateral incisors become more pronounced. If not Awakened as a Magician before their infection, they become one afterwards. Vampires are exclusively hemovores and can consume only blood. Any other food makes them sick and causes nausea (see p. 245, SR4) within an hour when they consume most other foods; this is especially true if they consume alcohol, in which case the nausea kicks in within 15 minutes. The maximum Essence that a vampire can drain is equal to three times its natural maximum Essence. Damage taken from sunlight is not healed by their Regeneration power, nor is damage from wooden weapons.

Critter Design Notes
This is a mix of SR4 and SR5 specs for both vampires and nosferatu. Also, having vampires being allergic to wood was just really, really stupid. A vampire’s attacking you? No worries, just poke him with a stick, it’ll burn him like acid. That was changed to a Vulnerability instead (see SR4 Running Wild, p. 219).


HMHGV

Isolated in 2051 by Dr. Jeffrey Krieger, this magical virus transforms victims into ghouls.

Viral Taxonomy
Group:....Group VIII (Magically Active Viruses)
Order:.....none
Family:...Nachzehriviridae
Genus:....Draugarivirus
Species:..Human-Metahuman Ghoul Virus

Etymology Notes
Krieger is clearly a German name, so I chose German terminology/folklore for this virus (assuming that this is what he would have chosen/suggested). The Nachzehrer is a German vampire / mostly ghoul which feasts upon the dead. The Draugr is a Nordic/German predatory revenant, which also served as the inspiration for Tolkien's Barrow Wights.

Viral Infection Mechanics
Vector: Injection
Penetration: -3
Power: 2

Critter Template
Physical Attributes: Body +4, Reaction +2, Strength +3
Mental Attributes: Charisma -2, Logic -1, Willpower +2
Powers: Armor +1 (cumulative with natural dermal armor), Dual Natured, Enhanced Senses (Hearing, Smell), Immunity (Pathogens, Toxins), Infection, Natural Weapon (Bite: DV (STR+1)P, AP -1, -1 Reach), Natural Weapon (Claws: DV (STR+1)P, AP -1),
Sapience
Weaknesses: Allergy (Sunlight, Moderate), Dietary Requirement (Metahuman Flesh), and Reduced Senses (Blind; -6 dice modifier to all tests involving purely physical sight).
Notes: The victim’s skin becomes rough and takes on a grayish tone, while all body and facial hair soon falls out. The fingers elongate, and the fingernails become claws. The teeth become sharper and more prominent. Their eyes film over with thick white cataracts as they lose their sight, but their senses of hearing and smell become hyperactive. Ghoul characters can overcome their Reduced Senses by taking cybereyes. Ghouls can only easily digest raw meat; cooked meat makes them sick and causes nausea (see p. 245, SR4) within an hour when they consume most other foods, especially cooked foods.

Critter Design Notes
This is a mix of SR4 and SR5 specs for ghouls.


Optional Critters

If this trims down the list too far for you, you can add your favorite canon HMHVV critters back in “À la carte” via separate viral strains. To add new vampire / blood-drinking creatures, list the original virus as HMHVV-1, then add HMHVV-2, HMHVV-3, etc. To add new ghoul / flesh-eating creatures, list the original virus as HMHGV-1, then add HMHGV-2, HMHGV-3, etc.


Other Rules

Any PC infected and transformed by either virus immediately becomes an NPC under GM control; tell the player to roll up another character.


And this should clean things up considerably, from 17 creatures down to just 2, and relegating the Infected to strictly NPC status. Now I can continue work on adding further parapathogens to the Sixth World (ones with effects other than transforming their victims into monsters), and possibly some paratoxins as well. The best one I’ve found so far is MRDS (Magic Resistance Deficiency Syndrome) from GURPS Technomancer, with is a much better allegory for AIDS than canon HMHVV ever was. I’ve purchased some gaming supplements and assembled some fan-made resources that incorporate or deal with magical diseases, and look forward to being able introduce at least half a dozen frightening “companions” for HMHVV and HMHGV.

Ah, one thing I forgot, the “descent into monsterdom” mechanic for the Infected, which was previously discussed here. Try this on for size. It’s based on the trope for Stages of Monster Grief.

New Critter Weakness

Mind of a Monster
Stage 1 – Denial: The victim pretends that they can go on with their old life.
Stage 2 – Defiance: The victim realizes that’s not going to work and becomes enraged, taking out their anger on whatever targets seem most appropriate (or just close at hand).
Stage 3 – Acceptance: The victim accepts that they’re now a blood-drinking / flesh-eating creature, and that this is their new normal.
Stage 4 – Betrayal: The victim abandons any pretense of trying to co-exist with the creatures that are its food source, and henceforth views (meta)humans as nothing more than prey or toys for their amusement.

A just-Infected vampire or ghoul starts off at Stage 1. Every month, they must make a Willpower roll (perhaps Difficulty 3?), to avoid slipping down to the next level. Eventually, the virus will win, and they’ll be monsters in both mind and body.

Actually it was 5%, the 1% figure was just an unreliable in-universe narrator -- at least that's the explanation I recall from PG for the two different numbers, which is why I'm inclined to believe the lack of hard numbers for Dietary Requirements was to intentionally keep things unclear.

Anyway, ghouls always needed quite a healthy meal of long pig, the difference is that now Infected can't binge one day and go with just normal food (subject to their individual restrictions) for a day or two.


If tissue samples can be kept fresh enough to link back to your aura for years, I'm not buying that the aura traces ghouls are after go stale after a month, sorry


BTW, interesting that your quote from PG doesn't include the sentence after "my user ID is giving me issues at the moment."


I am indeed missing any reason to see an Infected's desire to hunt any different from other predators just because it's magic.

Um, because magic breaks the very laws of physics? If a magical virus has taken up residence in your body, has gone so far as to actually remake you into a new creature, and is then compelling you to do and/or want something, then by definition it has more force behind it than any mundane biological instincts.

Mundane biology is limited to the extent of natural, physical laws, but supernatural biology has no such limitations. Think of it as a mind control spell – that lives in your head, if you're Infected.

I always thought that the corps used preserve spells for those, but looking back it looks like a lot just kept them on ice, so you may have a point.
Between all the ways we are finding to keep and treat the meats, we may be able to fill out the section for 'Serving Man' in the upcoming Metacooking book nicely.



I thought it to be the most tactful way to proceed, plus he did say he would have come himself if he could.

We are probably given him enough nightmares just with the questions.

The Buccaneer is a ghoul scout/sniper. His rifle has an inscription along the magwell, "To Serve Man". For some reason he always wears a hunting vest instead of a tac vest on missions which has a large game carrier pouch at the small of the back.

Someone invoked me?

Okay, who left the summoning circle on?

@ Patrick: Heh... glad you could make it back to the wilds.

Now you mentioned an Infected Book with Kevin if time ever allows, are you able to answer if this is another novel or something more crunchy like a dedicated Infected pdf maybe updating the actions of Fear the Dark and the Ordo or as we like to call the them, the New Krew and the Old Guys?

Either is desirable, but just curious what might be in the works....

Well, yes, I believe we did.

Glad to see you back here. At any rate, what do think of the ideas presented here? My most current concepts are on this page of the thread, and apparently there's quite the discussion of "Long Pig Jerky" going on as well.

Kevin and I have somewhat nebulous plans for a dedicated Infected ebook, tentatively titled Children of the Night, sort of a Way of the Infected, for lack of a better term. Haven't even pitched it yet, as my life has been very busy for longer than I care to think about.


Careful what you wish for.


Give me a chance to look it all over. Working via my phone at the moment, and it's giving me a headache.

Gonna start out with: I didn't have anything to do with the taxonomy. That was Bobby Derie, and he had some fair reasons for why he did it the way he did. That said, there were any number of people I know who cringe at the stuff. Medical types, mostly, as Janessa noted.

As a set of house rules, I like this just fine. I'm not gonna use it myself, but as a set of house rules, the idea works okay for me.

Thanks, Patrick.

FYI, I've cross-posted the end result of this discussion here at the official forum.

What, you count as a Great Form?


@Janessa:

Sounds more like CFD than HMHVV. Infected do not gain any compulsion, obsession, lack of control.

Also, remember that ghouls are supposed to be scavengers, not apex predators. That is not just a question of diet or fitting traditional depictions, at least in western culture beings which hunt their prey are typically associated with positive qualities such as strength, nobility ("King of the Beasts"), sexual prowess, cunning, et cetera. Carrion feeders on the other hand are filthy, opportunistic, and not something you'd take as heraldry.
Trying to make ghouls less appealing by turning them from vultures into lions therefore does slightly contradict itself

I think that decision was already made in canon, and in fact it's popped up here and there over the years. As I've said repeatedly, the Infected vary depending on who is writing them. But the most recent addition that quite supports my point of view was from the recent novel Crimson. I'll excerpt it again:

“These past few years...it’s like the hunger has become sharper. We don’t need to eat more, but the craving for flesh has gotten so much more insistent. Mouths salivate easy, and the temptation to go hunting for real human meat is always there, always at the back of your mind or right behind your eyelids when you go to sleep.”

.....

He paused. “I…I want to chew them up. I want to eat them while they’re still alive. I want to feel it, and I want them to feel it.” He turned his eyes on me with more soul than you’d expect from cyber replacements. “Don’t you ever feel like that? Don’t you just want to tear into them, let it drip around and flood over you?”

Those seem more like lions than vultures to me. And it clearly shows the compulsion to hunt and kill (meta)humans that this magical virus is forcing on them.

I keep thinking, "how fortunate in this setting that doing so would probably be considered eating the evidence and might actually be a smart move after all."

Personally,

I thought this was an example of how he had become deranged and psychotic. I didnt take this as an example for the model of infected psychology.

Near as I could tell, this was actually him Leaning on the Fourth Wall, telling the reader about the transition from 4th Edition to 5th Edition game mechanics for the Infected. They talk about this in SR4 Storm Front and then again in SR5 Run Faster. Reading between the lines, I was guessing that it was rising magic levels causing the virus to "go into overdrive," as this was all of a sudden (within one year), and affecting all of the already Infected worldwide. This argues against viral mutation, which ought to just be responsible for creating new and more hungry / sunlight sensitive creatures from newly-Infected victims.

Novels are not rulebooks, or else I want my super jump from Wired Reflexes because that was in some novel I can't remember, too
The "advanced character" rulebooks list only one option with any kind of special compulsions and that one's not even an Infected, it's the beady-eyed Arab who's compelled to adhere to racist stereotypes.


Why not the "Aura Deficiency Syndrome" from Augmentation?


@Sendaz:
Using spells to preserve tissue samples reminds me of something else I always thought cool: Infected (meta)magic. I know, class-specific spells are a huge can of worms, but at least NPCs could get some scary metamagics from sinister spirits of the darkest metaplanes...

@ Sengir
Aye. They did introduce a few spells that only work on HMHVV types like Ghoulish Strength and Vampiric Speed so there is precedence.

Strangely they didn't tie them to the Essence pool, ie have to burn off a point or two of stolen ess to fuel the special magics, but that may be due to Ghouls not having the variable Ess pool like the other Infected.

Meta(magics) could be even nastier, building on the sacrifice magics.
Blood Wards that do nothing to Vamps but regular living beings pay a blood toll if they try to cross it. Handy for keeping the herds in line.
Spending blood to make Illusions semi-solid, not unlike Naruto Shadow clone jutsu, solid enough to land a physical hit or two but not as tough as the original if counterattacked.

Might be something to throw Patrick's way as he may already have something in the works.

To be sure, they're not. But I note that the main character of Crimson is the same one who shows up for a lengthy show-and-tell session with the denizens of JackPoint in SR5 Run Faster, talking about HMHVV and his experiences as a vampire, so an actual rulebook is clearly acknowledging the events of that novel.

No, an actual rulebook is merely using a novel character as a shadowtalker, which is extremely non-noteworthy. Twist, Dodger and other characters from the Secrets of Power books also showed up as shadowtalkers, that doesn't make the novels authoritative sources for game rules.

@Sendaz: Let me rephrase, "Infected (meta)magic which does something unique"

They talk about this in SR4 Storm Front and SR5 Run Faster in addition to Crimson. The hunger for the Infected has gotten much more intense and their sunlight sensitivity has increased.


In SR4 Storm Front
See the chapter “Sleeping with the Enemy,” where this is discussed, among other Infected issues.

In SR5 Run Faster
Compare the Allergy (Sunlight) for ghouls and vampires in SR4 Runner’s Companion to this book. Ghouls went from Mild to Moderate, and vampires went from Moderate to Severe. It also mentions “The virus has mutated since its first appearance, and the last couple of years have caused some of the most pronounced changes to its behavior. The most notable changes have been in Strain I and Strain III Infected, though there have been changes in Strain II as well.” This is outright rules text, right there in black and white, not Shadowtalk.


If you don’t want to include in this your campaign, well, far be it from me to cast stones on someone else’s house rules (this thread is ostensibly about my house rules, after all), but to assert this isn’t happening in canon is willful ignorance. This is the same thing from 3 different sources. House rule it away if you wish, but it’s canon.

...and it's reflected by the more severe allergies, Infected gradually "growing" their powers and several detail changes. Whereas the increased hunger is conspicuously absent, although I'm sure PG would have it in if he wanted to

Unless, of course, you examine SR4 Runner's Companion, p. 61 and then examine the SR5 Core Rules, pp. 401, 404-405, which will alert you to the fact that they used to need about 1 pound of flesh per week, but now need that much per day. Sounds like one heck of an increased appetite to me.

As previously stated it's not really a significant change

Look, you clearly just don't want to accept their increased appetite, no matter how many sources it appears in, so I'm just writing this off as your personal house rules on this issue.

This is the most important part of these rules for me, and a standard house rule in my games. Infected should not be PCs, full stop, end of story. They just cause too much trouble for the rest of the players and get in the way of everyone's fun, because inevitably the campaign becomes all about the Infected as the rest of the players decide that since they have to deal with all those issues anyway, they might as well get bit in for the powers.

Well that of course explains a lot, if you consider the correct result of the equation "0.05 * 75 kg" (and 75 Kilos is probably on the low end) to be a personal house rule it's no wonder we can't reach an agreement...

Under the old 5 % rule, a ghoul weighting 75 kilos (or 11 st, 11 lb, 5 oz, and ~9 dr) needs 3.75 kilos of meat a week, which when spread out evenly across all days of the week means ~535 grams (~19 oz) per day. A bit more than half a kilo of steak sounds like quite a nice fit for "one meal a day".

The 1% vs 5% thing was introduced in editorial a bit before I returned to the fold to do anything with the Infected. Sengir's math seems reasonable to me, however, if one sticks with the "one meal a day" from Run Faster (which was done in editorial, also, to keep things a little more fluid from table to table, so to speak).

The amount of human flesh they have to eat HAS NOT CHANGED, at least not significantly, since 4e. The hunger pains, the desire, has been on the rise, though I deliberately decided not to include a mechanism for that in the game rules because different GMs and different tables are going to want to handle things differently, and I've never been one as a writer to tell the players how to do things at their table.

And no, I don't read these threads that much. Someone pointed this out to me and I thought I'd drop in and see what was up. I'll pop in and out the next day or so to see if there's anything that needs clarification, but don't expect me to hang around much.

So their hunger and drive is being dialed up, and even though their requirements have not changed, they are being driven to gorge/overindulge?

Depends on how you define overindulge. They eat, they get full, but like a Chinese meal a few hours later you are hungry again.

So it's not like they are trying to eat a whole human at one sitting as no matter how much they eat now, pretty soon the hunger comes a knocking.

It's a bit like an addiction. They don't need those bites between meals - they know they just ate, but the craving is leaving you jonesing for the Jones next door.

Which, as I've said, is all the more reason to cure HMHVV & HMHGV with copious amounts of fire, posthaste.

Wait, is there anything on the meal frequency in Run Fasta? I never found anything more concrete than the "one meal per day unelss stated otherwise" and assumed it was intentionally left vague.


Which is a shame, really

Well we do always appreciate you dropping by when you can.

Know it's probably not good for your inner peace some days.

Or other's inner peace....

Goodman's Significant Other: What are you reading dear.

Patrick Goodman: Oh, just catching up on this thread with an interesting rewrite idea on Infected with a side debate on the best way to chop, dry and store human bodies along with the recommended daily allowance.

GSO: ........

Patrick Goodman: O_O; Puppies, I meant this lovely upbeat thread about happy bounding, totally alive, puppies...

GSO: ........

Patrick Goodman: >_<

My wife knows what I write. She got some amusement out of metajerky.

Good to see she has a sense of humour.

That or she now knows how to get rid of a body if need be.