OK How the Heck did I miss this... I know I've been doing other stuff and to my shame I've not played a good game of SR since I left my crew in the UK 3 years ago... This is AWESOME news (not that I had to say as you already know that) I wait with baited breath and eager anticipation for this to become an eventuality. I might even be able to get back with my crew.

No idea, how you missed this O.o

hell yeah - I do

...also, when we sent out the news first, we wanted to make sure we had at least talked to the fans a good while before spouting nonsense about our game.

aplogies in advance, though - with all the press and our own forum going kind of active now, I will be here less frequently.
if you do have a burning question on your mind, best to reach me there. I will come back here regularly, but I have got a lot on my hands at the moment. Which is actually good, as it means SRO is getting more traction...

http://www.golem.de/1110/87026.html
yep, it certainly does get attention in the geek crowd *snickers*

The most burning question: WHEN?

When it's done?

Which is why I am suggesting to them to let us mess around with their Alpha/Beta builds, help em out with a bit of crowd sourced funding, sorta like other Indy Devs have been getting up to. I mean heck, Minecraft is not done and we have been playing it for over, what, 2 years now?

They are already seeking community involvement, so...

Friend of mine (Bastard that he is) wants to know if there's going to be locked warehouses in the game.

Yeah but look what that has gotten the Minecraft folks. Every time something new is added to minecraft the forums get over run with people calling Notch a idiot who ruining "Their" game with stuff that "not" minecraft. The Shadowrun MMO team might be better off working on the game on their own rather then have to put up with that kind of crap.

We wouldn't do that, would we?

And how is that an reason to not do it? That would happen regardless, I've seen it happen in countless forums - screenshot or interview with press releases to hype whatever game, those with time on their hands and an axe to grind with details out of context descend on the forum of their choice to let their fellow gamers in that forum know that it sucks or something.

Heck, you don't really have to look any further to see it happen than here, probably in a thread nearby.

Nah, if it provides them with the funding and feedback to make a better game, they should consider if it is within their means. The Indy Dev scene is doing it and not without good reason as pertains to how they had to get by while developing without the crowd sourced funding previously (see: starving artist).

Not to say the least, those arguments that over run where-ever are silly, by definition a Alpha/Beta is incomplete and so whatever form the game takes after something is added is it being closer to its true form - it seems to me it would be like calling a butterfly a ruination of a caterpillar, damn that cocoon patch.

I guess you got a point there,no one at Mojang seems to care that a few people are pissed off over the fact that minecraft will have potion crafting so if they can ignore self important trolls them I guess Cliffhanger Productions can do the same. Guess all those thread on the MC forums have made me a little cynical .

Well, the Jagged Alliance Online Game gets a Beta Phase for which people can try and register here:
http://jaggedalliance.gamigo.de/

Thankfully, there's an English version of the page, so I was able to register.

*shrugs*
i did not check, but i expected there to be one.

Apropos JAO Beta- we have smuggled in a secret Shadowrun level- a first screen can be found here

Very nice.

Will I be able to play a pixie rigger adept driving a human-form drone?







-k

That is an easy one- yes, but you will be invisible and can only use the drone if your are sitting on its head. So, it may look to all the world as if you play a human, but you will know better

What about guilds? I assume there will be a party system for missions, but will there be guild support? Any plans for vehicle combat later down the line?

dude, sounds awesome O.o

No, I just didn't quote the post I was responding to. They were talking about the new Syndicate game, which is an FPS, because EA is the devil. Cartel is inspired by the original Syndicate games, and mimics their gameplay.

We will have a aprty system and will try to have guilds (crews) at launch, but this is tbd. Vehicle- we discussed smaller vehicles, but there movement speed makes it hard to fit them in. Otherwise you have a VERY slow car, which also does not make sense...however we are having ideas for further down the line...though a good bit further...

What about public Transpor-Systems?
Bus, Rail, Taxi?

I figured vehicles were a long shot; I'm really looking forward to seeing this game mature after launch. Kids these days want all of their MMO features at launch, but I remember what WoW was like when it first came out, versus what it has now. MMOs are never totally finished, that's one of the awesome things about it. The game develops while you're playing it. I'm sure it's way too early to start asking questions about how the free-to-play model will work in this case, but when do you think we'll start seeing that kind of information trickle out?

Bah, kids don't remember the days when you had to go to the STORE to get add-ons! Expansion Packs they were called!

Now you can just sit at home and get your DLC without the trip outside at all, and they still whine, "But the whole game isn't here!"

Primetide: Been following your reveals on Kotaku and on the Facebook page. I gotta say, this game looks totally awesome. You and your company look to be doing a great job!

I do remember.
And i actually prefer it that way too, even if i have a 50MBit Line . .

You're not a kid.

Expansion packs weren't the same thing as DLC.

sadly, you are right ._.

Yeah I'm excited for this game. The devs have got the exact right attitude and interest in the spirit of SR. Keep it up!

We will try

Eh. Additional content for an existing game, which you pay extra money to gain access to.

I'm not seeing a real meaningful difference here.

The physical delivery format is kinda unimportant, unless you're insisting on a hard copy rather than digital. But that's really a separate discussion of "buying a product versus buying a license".



-k

Praytell, the difference being?

Expansion Packs gave, usually, a new Campaign you could play. One that usually started after the Base Campaign was over.
So a DLC CAN be an Expansion-Pack, but more often than not . . it's just a bit more Gear, one or two bonus skins, one or MAYBE two bonus missions all in the same base game . .
No new Units, campaigns, Game-Mechanics . .

Ah, OK. Most of the DLC I buy have been for Fallout 3/New Vegas, so they all seemed like Expansion Packs to me.

There was one for New Vegas that was just new gear, but I liked the new gear. Including one rifle that was cut from the game that I really wanted to play with when I saw the promotional pics.

Yah, the F³/F³NV DLC's came pretty close to expansion packs . .

Expansions backs used to add a lot of contents to the game. Some of them were nearly new games with the same engine. For example, Alpha Centauri's expansion pack didn't add just 3 new factions and 2 new units but 7 factions and a ton of units, buildings, secrets, alien races, victory conditions and so on. Compare this to the DLC for Civ 5...

friday evening downtown - sro style!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=174...e=1&theater

have a good weekend

Aah, the start to a wonderfull night ^^

Needs more 'plosions.

Has the Shadowrun dragon-S ever been depicted in-universe before?



-k

Nope

It's still in the pre-demo stages, folks. They're still on the Jagged Alliance Closed-Beta. The Shadowrun-S works as a great placeholder, however.

NERPS would have been better, I admit.

Hmm, it'd be nice if they created decals you can tag onto stuff for faction based wars . .
so gang signs or posters of corp logos . .

IIRC, there was some talk of Corp-Based Gangs in one of the books.

I know there was talk of gangs based on what high-end fashions they wore. Bored rich kids looking for a fight...

That reminds me, i'll have to check wether or not the Rhine-Ruhr-Sprawl-Boook is available allready . .

Damned Germans get all the good drek.

I would be interesting if it was possible to use skills out of the combat.

Eg: in the "map screen", the team´s Face could use social skills to get extra info on runs, bargain run payments, make new contacts, etc. The same goes for deckers/hackers - they could use hacking (or simply browsing) skills to get extra info on runs, or even affect future runs by softening site security, etc.

Is this doable ?