Sand, yes the Tank or the Chopper could be modified to fit a medical unit BUT would be very limited to space and at best would be able to hold 1 treating victim with 2 others just in the vehicle. All teh equiptment, shop and tools ect, is provided by the agency running the event.

In one of your previous posts, you said that we'd need a 'mobile hospital.' Chauncy was checking the word on the street to hear from people who had previous experience with the race what would be better: a rolling mobile hospital, or a flying one.

Gotcha.... people tend to vote for this..... hiring a man to be on ready near your location most times witht eh chopper ready as a moble hospitle so that if something happened they could come pick you up asap.

But with the posibility that most teams might not want to hire a full time guy or cant afford it for the length of the race the best bet would be teh tank because tis always with you and just having a medic as part of the team.

I think we need to know the rules and regs regarding getting from point a to b. If we have to cover it on ground then make the chopper medical + some extras, if we can get there anyway we like. The chopper is much faster and then we'd be better off using it as a transport.

I'm going to convert the Devil Rat transport into the ambulance vehicle. I assume that the helicopter is only going to be used for some special races, because helicopters in SR have an absolutley terrible range. With a full tank of fuel, the Stallion can only go 250 km (156 miles) before running out of gas.

Unless there are fuel stops set up every hour, there is no way to use the helicopter as part of a sustained race. (I'd thought they had better range than that, but I just did the math, and wow...)

Hrmm well what are the odds of putting in extended fuel tanks?

You know...I do hope we're talking about all this shadowrunner business without Cassey around. Might get her thinking of just who might have hired us....

Drop tanks can increase the range to 700 km (437 miles), but at the cost of weapon mounts and speed. That will increase the helicopters range to about equal to most of the vehicles.

Picking up drugs for someone is not exactly heavy shadowrun type business. Its fairly common and considering the nature of the event some drugs floating around is probably very much the norm. I don't think she'd bat an eyelid.

Actualy most of what Ghost said was for Cassey to hear, the idea being that it gives her something to focus on besides the rest of the team. The team becomes legitimate and Ghost becomes the "rogue element" so if anything happens Ghost is to be blamed and the team maintains an air of innocence.

Ghost by her nature is a loner, and probably would be the oddball in the team. This just gives her a reason to be who she is without worrying about blowing any sort of cover.

So to make the chopper useful in these races we really need to have those extra fuel tanks on it. And to do that we have to lose the weapon mounts and so on, which would make it a better use as an ambulance. However anyone using the chopper in a race would be sidelined a little, unless a passenger rides shotgun with some type of launcher.

Just remembered Mr. White needs to aquier a set of hi-powerd optical binoculars.

well, I have some standard low-light binoculars...

The drop tanks take up one set of external mounts. The Stallion is big enough that it has three sets all together. Plus, there is room for door guns, turrets, etc.

I don't think our conversation is going to prove any problem for Cassey either. This is a race well known for the fact that the contestants do a lot more than racing, so doing a little sideline work to get more info about the race, oppenents, etc isn't that unusual. Shadowrunner types being on the teams is also probably not unusual.

is this the normal pase for most board/forum games?

Things do tend to get a bit slower over the weekends.

Gremish seems to be tied up with some stuff IRL, as he hasn't posted in any of the games he's playing in either for a while. Things usually don't move quite this slow.

Re: the ambulance. Gremish, is it ok to pay 78,000 nuyen and say that the Stallion helicopter is a Doc Wagon model? Otherwise, customizing a vehicle into a functional ambulance is simple too expensive: formula for cost is (Rating +4)^3 x 800
Rating 1: 100,000
2: 172,800
3: 274,400
4: 409,600

ok as i posted in the Earth dawn im SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry guys i feel so bad..... but ive had huge money issues the last few weeks and ive been working hardcore as to not get in like 2000 dollars of credit card debt. =( as of Monday i will be back to my normaly sceduele and everythign will be going fast again.

Im sry for the inconvience and plz fogive me =( If you guys wanna just call this off or you wanan bow out i understand. Today i DO have a little time and i will be posting a FULL length IG. report. Again im very very sry.... shit happens and games / fun comes second unfortunilty to Money and working =(

Sincerely,
Dan kennedy

Ahem, I forgot to mention that the 78,000 was the cost difference between a standard Hughes Stallion and the Doc Wagon Variant. I'm glad this works out. Otherwise I would've had to sink everyones' race cash just into getting the medical gear.

Anyway, since this is an online game, I'm okay with a slow pace so long as you're willing to keep at it. I just want to do some rigging, but I can be patient.

No worrys thats a good deal witht he doc wagon....

Ill keep at it im posting as often as i can... this past little while has been ruff but it be back and at it soon enough =)

no problem i was just wondering what was happening

Gah! Credit card debt, say no more. I don't mind waiting to much, but thanks for offering us an out. Like wise if you think you've taken on too much, i'll understand. It would be a pity though 'cause i am enjoying myself, and the first race should be good.

New post in the IG i will also be posting tonight between work and school so about 9pm EST. i hope you are all having fun after a week of working hell ive made enought o get back on my feet so posts will be more common now!

Can someone tell me how to do spoilers? Anyway D-Trip Fast-talks the furious Mr. White trying to show he's on his side, and that he won't leave him twisting in the wind.

Negotiations 5

4,3,3,2,1
Crap!

Leadership/ Morale

7, 2, 1

use [ spoiler ] without the spaces of course...

Um Grem do we have 1 vial each? (Whitey and Ghost) or just 1 vial between us.

Seeing as an evening has not yet passed we don't know about the dream side effects yet. That will only happen once we're off to sleep.

When does karma pool refresh in this campain? End of a storry, after you have slepped? at GM discretion? was thinking i would have wanted to do a rerole. I have rarly used karma so am not familuer with it's proper usses.

First you each ave 1 vial

Next karma pool resets at the end of each real life day. i figure that will be easyiest.

hmm every RL day might be to often.. every game day should be okay. Cause stuff like combat here 1 round could take a day or so, same for certain actions. Means we could almost karma reroll on almost everything.

Combats gonna be fast =P i plan on using this idea..... you state what you are doing and until you state otherwise you continue doing that.... that way if needed i can roll for people who dont post fast enough =P

Ah thats cool, suits me. I tend to post most of a combat turn in one go.

Please keep this moving in IG =) im trying to post as often as posible and will respon to each of you as you do things until something large accurs.... i leave this to the PC's more then anythign to keep this going..... FYI its 4 days till your Turn int eh combat arena.

Saudes have you had any luck with that map? If not then ill just post the map on my website and link it here thenwrite a description so each of you can use it to find where you are ect.

Thanks
Grem

Here are the modified vehicles. I'm going to have to make sheets for them, but right now I'm a little riggered out. I haven't heard anything from Bonk or Papadoc, so I didn't do any vehicles specifically for them, or use any of their funds. I used people's contributions for the vehicles they'd chosen first, and then used the leftover to outfit the ones that no one had picked yet.

Whizbang: Money ended up being a little tight, so I did some deficit spending on the assumption that you were going to sell your Westwind. Do you want to take care of it, or should Chauncy try and sell it through some of his car connections?

Left over: 30,369
Vehicles:

ATVs:
Thundercloud Pinto ATV: 31,250 cost (no driver)
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
Engine Customization 2: 3500
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Winch (200 kg capacity): 100
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
Sensors 4: 12500
Power Amplifier 3: 750
Electronics Port: 1000
Radio 3: 1500
Pintle Mount: 50
+Ammo Bin (.2 CF): 50
+AK-97: 1,400
+ Gas Vent 4: 1000
+ 500 rnds Regular: 1000


Jeep Rover ATV Troll Mod - Mr. White (50,000 contributed)
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Pintle Mount: 50
Ammo Bin: 50
Enfield AS7 (troll mod) 1,250
+200 regular: 4600
+40 rnds Bola: 1048

Bikes:
Harley Davidson Electro Glide - Ghost: (50,000 contributed)
Datajack: 5,000
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Runflats: 600 (+1 spare)
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
Ares Alpha (firm point): 2,000
-3000 Regular: 5,000
-50 HE Grenades 1,500
-20 AP Grenades 600
-(in the ammo bin)

Honda Viking - Mr. Crisp (80,000 contributed)
Runflats: 600 (+1 spare)
Datajack: 5,000
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
2 x Pintle Mount: 100
Ammo Bin: 50
Ares MP-LMG: 5,500 (pintle mount)
+1000 x Regular (ammo bin): 2000
2 x M79B1 LAW (must first be put on a pintle mount): 3500
+ 2 x rockets: 3000
2 x Spike(must first be put on a pintle mount): 4000
+2 x AV rockets: 8000

'Tank': 39,250 cost (no driver)
LAV 93 Devil Rat
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
Anti-theft system 6 (electro-shock) 5,000
Reinforced Bench Seat: 750
Great Dragon ATGM: 2,400 (turret)
+5 ATGM Missiles: 10,000 (ammo bin)
Colt M22A2: 3,200 (turret)
+1000 rnds Regular: 2,000
+ 500 rnds ExEx 7,500 (ammo bin)
+10 Dual Charge: White Phosphorus/Smoke Grenade: 1,200
+10 IPE HE Grenades: 3,600

Combat 'hummer': 29,200 cost (no driver)
GMC MPUV
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Datajack: 5,000
Anti-theft system 6 (electro-shock) 5,000
4 points Armor: 5,000
Winch (2000 kg capacity): 1,000
Mini Remote Turret: 6,000
+Ingram Valiant: 3,000
+1500 rnds regular: 3,000

Helicopter: Doc Wagon WK-2 Stallion 108,950 cost (no driver)
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
3 points Armor: 3,750
Drop Tanks: 8000
Winch (2000 kg capacity): 1000
Spotlights: 600
Mini Remote Turret: 6000
+Ingram Valiant: 3000
+1500 rnds regular: 3000

If I've missed anything, let me know.

Ghost can fly the chopper, 50k of her money was for that. I can probably spare a couple more k for extra ammo or such.

Oops. When you said, 'chopper' before, I thought you meant the 'chopper' bike. Well, I suppose it works either way. Since ultimately, we all benefit from having well equipped vehicles, I used eveyrone's left over money for outfitting the rest of the vehicles. If our two AWOL players come back, that's another 100k of modification money, and I think it's fair to split that back amongst everyone.

Saudes =P i sent it to you before thought you got it... my bad just sent it again =D

what format do you wnat it in

Not like I'm going to be using the Westwind anytime soon. Probably leave it to Chancy. He's likely to get a far better price.

Hmm...so to pick up a skill for driving one of the unassigned vehicles, or to just pick up gunnery and be someone's gunner... (yes, I still haven't figured out just how to spend those bonus points)

Well, the tank, the chopper, and the SUV can all take a gunner, and it's a good bet that at one point or another, you will be firing vehicle mounted weapons.

Chauncy will send a call back to his contact, Kuruma Nakagawa that's he's got a nice new Westwind he's trying to sell at the list price of 57,000.

Etiquette: 15, 7, 5
Negotiations: 17,11, 8
Ummm... damn. Why can't I roll like this when I'm shooting at stuff?

think i should change out the pilot roter craft with the gunnery skill instead?
Sense he can only use trodes, having no Data Jack. That would give Mr. white decent car, gunnery

IMHO, that'd be a good idea. Some mix of one vehicle and gunnery skill would probably serve most of the PCs pretty well.

Ghost has a jack, I'll probably either end up with no gunnery or have to short change some skills for some gunnery.

Good work on the Vehicles Sand. The Viking is bristling with weapons! Very cool.

Sorry i haven't replied of late. I've been inter-state playing in a 40k tourney. Came 7th out of 36, woo-hoo! No prizes though. Sorry for the delay.

Just a couple of questions about the vehicles; what ended up as the ambulance? The Rotor craft i presume. And has the auto piolet been taken out of the Viking? Doesn't it make it harder to pull off manoeuvres in combat?

And whats going on with Ghost and Mr. White? Are the vials still up for trade or will they use the contents of the vials. Fore knowledge of the races will prove useful, but if one of the characters has a 'fit' for 15mins during a race, extra info won't help a bit.

Whiz in OOG the fire ele says nothign more about the vial.

Later today ide like to post the meeting with the corp since D-Trip seems to want to get that done SOOO i give you the rest of the day to say what your doing if i dont post tonight then i will tuesday morning.

HAPPY Valentines DAY! Kiss your loved ones for me cause im a single guy =(

Mr. Crisp: The helicopter is the Doc Wagon version, so that's our ambulance. Autonav can be turned off as needed.

*is a single girl and not looking*

ok getting this rolling again, new IG post.

He seems strait up sincere but in a hurry....