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Sandoval Smith
Smartlink 2 is not backwards compatible. I could just install the smartlink 1 system, and have a spare pair of goggles handy at all times.
Shaudes29
Mr. Whites Etiquet role while talking to cassey Etiquet 3 15,9,3

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Shaudes29
Mr. Whites glasses are Smartlink 2 complient
Mr Crisp
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SR3: 86: Gunnery governs the use of all vehicle mounted weapons, whether in mounts, pintles, or turrets. So yes, if you you want to mount a gun in anyway on your bike, you'll need the gunnery skill to use it effectively.


Yeah thought so, but whats the deal with shooting an assault rifle while riding a bike? I'm thinking this way to exploit the rules i guess. I was hoping to use the assault rifle off the bike as well.
Mr Crisp
OK so page 151, SR3 says you use the appropriate skill as long as the weapon isn't mounted so i'll put the last 3 bp's into Assault Rifle/ Ak97: 2/ 4, if thats sweet. I'll buy the gun later unless there is any cred left over Sandoval, cause i'm broke now. I'm looking to spend about nuyen.gif 4,000 and thats for an AK-97 with a gas vent and laser sight eek.gif
Sandoval Smith
The problem with firing something like an automatic rifle that's not mounted on anything is that you don't get any recoil comp from having it mounted (I think you might also suffer double recoil penalties), and I think it requires a driving test to make sure that you don't crash when you fire.
Mr Crisp
Yeah looks like you +2 Tn modifier for an unmounted weapon, doesn't look like there are any further penalties from recoil though, or a skill test required. So i might go with this option.
Sandoval Smith
I'd still recommend gunnery for versatility. Then, you are able to use your base score for just about any mounted weapon, from an assualt rifle up to the venerated Panther Assualt Cannon.

That, and although I can't find it, I could've sworn there was some sort of rule about the very-bad-things that can happen when firing automatic weapons from a motorcycle.
Mr Crisp
I know it looks like i'll never make up my mind; but when you said 'Panther Assault Cannon' Sandoval, i could taste the endorphins and serotonin in my mouth. lick.gif Gunnery it is!
Gremish
Ok for any GEAR your buying u get it whole sale! (whatever it is in the book without street index) Seems Warfield has some connections for you. The only thing u cant get is OVER availability 10 over that takwes to long and you will have to find it in Russia if at all =)


2nd -- Cassey takes warmly to all of you, she still believe u all took her in for no other reason then being nice so she has great respect for the whoole group althoguh she thinks bonk is a little strange....
Shaudes29
Grimish can i get a reply to my astral perseption cheak on the team Especaly cassey?
Gremish
Yes im sry i missed that =P Cassey is NOT magic active. Also no chrome as i said before. Shes 100% human, as fo the rest of the team ill let them tell thier own story of chrome =P i dont feel like breaking out char sheets ect...
Whizbang
No chrome here either. Magically active, though not fully awakened.
Tashio
Sorry about my lack of posting.. this last week has been crazy, ontop of that collective inventive juices were definatly not flowing. Will post shortly, going to backpost a bit if Grem don't mind to much just to play catchup.
Tashio
Ghost, Minor Crome, all in the head area.
Shaudes29
After relookign over my character car is 4 with rotor craft at 3. think thats best sence recation is 3. Updates it in the ready to run thread and added teh dice pools
Sandoval Smith
Chauncy's aura is a large, black hole in the astral realm. You really hope your life never depends on you having to cast a spell on him because it's going to be hard work.
Whizbang
Hmm...we couldn't by any chance toss any of those freebie points into B/R instead, so we can have a backup mechanic?
Mr Crisp
Great post about the story Shaudes, writing a reply soon. If you scan D-Trip for chrome, you find augmentations around the ears, inside the skull, and within the right arm. Emotionally assensing would show a happy facade, with unresolved anger lingering beneath.

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Regarding equipment; i'll leave Sandoval to spend my 5k or is it 25K? as he sees fit, if you get a chance to mod D-Trips Viking, go for it!
Tashio
Grem any chance we can get more details on the vehicles.. the VTOL is that as in VTOL Jet (Harrier Type) or as in chopper.

25k +50k expense. Does that include the 5k for rocking up or do we get that as well?
Gremish
You get 5k as well making it a grand total of 80k a piece 5k to spend as you wish an the other 75k to spend on RACE things only. B/R is fine for the extra points i gave you... you learn ALL these new skills by using simulators for the next few weeks while you are on the base training just so you know. So B/R would be easy to get with all the vehicles around. As for all the Specs on the Vehicles the Vtoal is a skin and bone Chopper, no armor no weapons... NADA. She just flys and with that she looks like she could still use some work.

You have a Medium Terrian Tank. Body 4 Armor 4, acc 60.

Two ATV's one Troll mod one normal human size. Body 1 Armor 0, acc 30

Two Bikes, (ill get u specific models from Rigger 3 ASAP been a little busy sry guys ohplease.gif )

One Hummer. Moified for combat has a mount that can support any heavy weapon fromt he roof. Body 3 Armor 3, acc 120.

I'll get more in debth with Chauncy on the specs seeing as hes the one thats gonna really know the most about them. Ill post a full prep on all the vehicles you will have here ASAP which shouldnt take long just need to find my Rigger 3 book and get some time =P been a busy 4 days for me which is sucky.
Shaudes29
Wear did the extra 25k coem from? My understanding form teh meet

25K up front for talking the job/each
50K for run eexpenses/each
5k for showing up to the meet that was or was not inadition to what we get paid if we agreed to the run./each


So Mr. white recived 25k income
50k run expenses (eq bught and used is Mr. warfileds after run is over)
5k for showing up to meet? in adition to the 25K right? So i would be 30K richer and an expenc acount of 50K
Sandoval Smith
Gremish, do they tell us how long the actual race segments are? I was envisioning that it'd be a transcontinental road race, which meant we might spend long periods of time in civilization, and also long periods where it was just us, and the road, and was gearing my purchases towards that assumption. If I don't need to have a 55 gallon water drum, and things like that, I'd like to know, so I'd have extra nuyen to put towards the vehicles.
Mr Crisp
So D-trip is going to sleaze his way around as much as possible. His main concern is finding an offical map or at least rumors of possible locations that the race will take place in. Possibly creating rumors in an attempt to get others to divulge some knowledge.

It's great having all that cred but knowing what to spend it on is difficult, so D-Trip will try to gather info on what other teams may be taking.

Negotiation 5
14, 4, 4, 2, 1

Etiquette/ Street 3/ 5
11, 5, 5, 2, 1

or if i need just vanilla Etiquette 3
3, 3, 1
Gremish
OK, Sand u are correct, you get rumors of trans continental with time in Civ and time outside... large amounts of time. As for anything else like maps and such its very hush hush but with your amazing Ett/ Negotiations you here a bit from a copr exec judge dude that you just met last night in a bar that says.

"Yeah looks like thier going all out this year.... Nearly every major country is involved with some aspect of the race.... problem is they only give you a piece of the map at each check point so you cant skip anything... But for a little "help" i might be able to get you that first piece if you know what i mean chummer."

He sits back sipping his drink and waiting for your reply.

(ALSO POSTING THIS IG)
Sandoval Smith
Gremish, when are you going to give us a list of specific vehicles? I'd really like to get to work on them, and although there is only one type of ATV, I need some model and page references for the rest.

For the group: everyone with a datajack, purchase a datajack port for your vehicle. It'll give you a slight advantage to your driving. Also get a set of runflat tires. They're armored 5/3 in case anyone starts trying to blow them out.

I'd also recommend people picking up a few rocket and missile launchers if you have the launch weapons skill (if we mount them on the vehicles, then gunnery works too). We can get Great Dragon AGTMs (very big, tripod mounted) or Spikes (one use, but portable and can load AV rockets). There are a couple other rocket launchers we can use, but none of them carry AV rounds.
Shaudes29
Mr. White

begins looking for the following shamonic spell formulas. he figures thay will be indispensable on teh trip.

Create Food Force 2
Create Watter Force 2
Stablelize Force 6 (w/ fetish requiement)

These are the most IMPORTENT things he needs to round off his magic support for the group. Befor the race begins will thear be any karma awards and an opurtunity for him to learn teh 1st too spells?
Gremish
Sandoval the reason i havent posted them yet is my freaking rigger 3 and SR3 books are at a friends house cause he "barrowed them " without asking me =( So i need you to do me a favor.... all vehicles are as described mid range stuff plz pick out ones you see fit to the group cause thats what Warfield would ahve done anyway.... sry for the delay i been searching for them for days now only to find out they werent here.... as for the weekend i was gone with work from friday to sunday ngith and i just got up =P ill post asap
Sandoval Smith
ATVs:
Thundercloud Pinto ATV
Thundercloud Pinto ATV Troll Mod

Bikes:
BMW Blitzen
Harley Davidson Electroglide

There is no R3 listing for actual tanks, especially not at body 4, or armor 4, so I picked the LAV 93 Devil Rat as the closest thing.

Again, no specific entry for hummer. The GMC MPUV is a combat modified SUV though. If that's too much, then we can start with the N-H Brumby, and add four points of armor.

Helicopter: Either a N. Wasp PRC-42B (one person attack copter), or a Hughes WK-2 Stallion, depending on which type you had in mind. Both start out unarmed and unarmored.

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Looks like D-Trip might be already lining us up for a warm up run...

Gremish, could we say that Chauncy managed to sell off his Tsarina, and I could get back the 15k I sank into modding it? I purchased it at chargen because I thought I'd need something less conspicous than the Big Dog for daily driving, and being a little two seated grocery getter doesn't do it any good in this game.
Mr Crisp
Ok, so i need to know a few things about the 'Camp' we are staying in; are we allowed outside the camp? If not can i get a description of the perimeter and any patrols?

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Like i said before Sandoval, use my share of the money wiselly for what you think we need. It's ok to forget about the Viking if you just want to soup up the Blitzen or the Electroglide.
Whizbang
Feel free to toss in what I have left over from my spending as well...no need to let expense money go to waste smile.gif

Or I could just hang onto my spare change for when we learn what the first challenge is, incase we need to obtain any non-vehicle gear we haven't already gotten.
Gremish
Sounds good Sand.... for the chopper, its buitl for troop transport but can have weapons attached. Pick whichever u need. for the Vehicle .... its your choice. Anything not over 100k is fine. And yeah u can sell pretty much anyhting here... its like a bazaar. But plz roll a neg check or Ett CHA depending what ya got... to see if you get full price ect.
Sandoval Smith
That'd be the Hughes Stallion then. Only thing is, it goes for 257,500. The only helicopters that go for less than 100k are one seater autogyros.

Could people also list how much cash they have left over, and what vehicle they want? Also tell me if you have a datajack or not. Since it's expensive, how many of these vehicles do we want to get rigger adapted? Since Chauncy can only drive one at a time, aside from Big Dog, I was just thinking of adapting just the chopper.

Crisp: Oops, I meant to say 'Viking.' When I made that post, I misremembered the Blitzen as being the will troll sized bike. I'll fix that.

Pick your vehicles, tell me how much you have to spend. What's left over I'll put towards the chopper and the tank.

Vehicles:

ATVs:
Thundercloud Pinto ATV: 31,250
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
Engine Customization 2: 3500
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Winch (200 kg capacity): 100
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
Sensors 4: 12500
Power Amplifier 3: 750
Electronics Port: 1000
Radio 3: 1500
Pintle Mount: 50
+Ammo Bin (.2 CF): 50
+AK-97: 1,400
+ Gas Vent 4: 1000
+ 500 rnds Regular: 1000


Jeep Rover ATV Troll Mod - Mr. White 30,302 (50,000 contributed)
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Pintle Mount: 50
Ammo Bin: 50
Enfield AS7 (troll mod) 1,250
+200 regular: 4600
+40 rnds Bola: 1048

Bikes:
Harley Davidson Electro Glide - Ghost: 22,300 (50,000 contributed)
Datajack: 5,000
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Runflats: 600 (+1 spare)
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
Ares Alpha (firm point): 2,000
-3000 Regular: 5,000
-50 HE Grenades 1,500
-20 AP Grenades 600
-(in the ammo bin)

Honda Viking - Mr. Crisp 35,150 (80,000 contributed)
Runflats: 600 (+1 spare)
Datajack: 5,000
Autonav 3: 7,500
Anti-theft system 4(electro-shock) 4,000
Personal Armor 4: 1,600 (+4 Ballistic, NOT vehicle armor)
2 x Pintle Mount: 100
Ammo Bin: 50
Ares MP-LMG: 5,500 (pintle mount)
+1000 x Regular (ammo bin): 2000
2 x M79B1 LAW (must first be put on a pintle mount): 3500
+ 2 x rockets: 3000
2 x Spike(must first be put on a pintle mount): 4000
+2 x AV rockets: 8000

'Tank': 39,250 cost
LAV 93 Devil Rat
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
Anti-theft system 6 (electro-shock) 5,000
Reinforced Bench Seat: 750
Great Dragon ATGM: 2,400 (turret)
+5 ATGM Missiles: 10,000 (ammo bin)
Colt M22A2: 3,200 (turret)
+1000 rnds Regular: 2,000
+ 500 rnds ExEx 7,500 (ammo bin)
+10 Dual Charge: White Phosphorus/Smoke Grenade: 1,200
+10 IPE HE Grenades: 3,600

Combat 'hummer': 29,200
GMC MPUV
Runflats: 1,200 (+two spares)
Datajack: 5,000
Anti-theft system 6 (electro-shock) 5,000
4 points Armor: 5,000
Winch (2000 kg capacity): 1,000
Mini Remote Turret: 6,000
+Ingram Valiant: 3,000
+1500 rnds regular: 3,000

Helicopter: Doc Wagon WK-2 Stallion 108,950 cost
Rigger Adaptation: 5,600
3 points Armor: 3,750
Drop Tanks: 8000
Winch (2000 kg capacity): 1000
Spotlights: 600
Mini Remote Turret: 6000
+Ingram Valiant: 3000
+1500 rnds regular: 3000

Chauncy: 24,877

30,369

Selling the Tsarina for 15k
Etiquette / Street: 3/5: 6,5,4
Negotiations: 3: 6,5,3
using D&D roller, the only one I can use at work.
Tashio
Ghost has a datajack. She has at least 50k left, so if you want to put that forward for mods to the chopper would be good.
Sandoval Smith
I will just be updating my previous post for vehicle infor, instead of making new ones each time. FYI.
Whizbang
No datajack here. I was planning on tossing those free points in build/repair anyways, and just being a backup mechanic, at least for the cars.
Shaudes29
Mr. Whites 50k is avalabel for teh vehicels, No data jack, he can be a backup pilot for the choper rottery 3 pilot skill.
Whizbang
Hmm...reading over the latest discussion on conjurers makes me wonder if I blew alot of points on starting elementals...especially now that we have 3 weeks to kill... oh well...what's done is done.
Sandoval Smith
Whizbang, could you please tell me how much cash you have? I've tried tracking this through the posts, but with the number of players we have, it's a real headache making sure I've got the right number for everyone.

Also, everybody, tell me which vehicle is 'yours.' Big Dog needs needs one other person to man the turret, and I can install a motorcycle sidecar with a gun, and some other toys on one of the choppers, if you want to take that route. I'm giving Mr. White the Troll modded ATV, since IIRC, he's the only other troll in the party.
Tashio
Ghost will take the chopper. 50k for the chopper, I may have more left over will let you know tonight. Has datajack.

Rotor Craft 6, working out where to shave off to pick up gunnery.
Mr Crisp
Do you know how much money i have Sand? I haven't spent anything from what i got from Warfield, only Starting cred from CharGen. Go for it!
If we have enough people, and the money, chuck that side-car onto the Viking. D-trip will be happy for the company, even though the characters can talk through radio head sets.

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The biz with the Johnson, just need the last bit of info Grems; where to pick up Fires End; and how much it costs. I'm hoping the disguise i mentioned could either be pulled off by Ghost, or withthe help of Mr. Whites physical mask spell. Unless it's just a bad idea.
Sandoval Smith
Tashio, Ghost has the Electroglide, and I've got it kitted out It comes standard with an Electronics Port/Radio, External fixed firm point (+ammo bin), and turbocharging 3. I'll take care of Mr. White's Jeep Rover, and D-trip's Viking tomorrow, plus whoever else gets back to me.

Mr. Crisp, if you haven't spent anything you've gotten since that meet with Warfield, you have 80,000 nuyen in the pot for your vehicle.
Tashio
ElectroGlide that what we ended up with? No Hughes?
Gremish
Ok guys ive run into a problem the past few days and this is why this all is taking so long so im gonna see if you cna help me out. I have a file thats a map of the 6th world. i was planning on editing it and puting it online so that you all could go and download it. Thus far i have been unable to find a way to edit it. Its a PDF file in adobe acrobat.

I cannot edit it with Adobe and it wont let me open it with an other program. At this point im out of ideas.... ive spend endless hours trying and if you guys have no idea then im just gonna post t and do a text write out of where you are going ect so that we can get this thing rolling.

Thanks for your patients.

Gremish
Shaudes29
send it to me and ill see if i get get it converted to a format you can use. how big is it?
Shaudes29
is it requierd that i maintain line of sight on a person that i cast the physical mast spell on?

Can i cast it on then and then let them wonder off out of my site and teh spell still be efective?
Whizbang
I have 73180 left (no I couldn't think of much to spend it on). My char's personal vehicle is a for the most part unmodified EuroWestwind 2000...doubt it would be much use, as it's more of a street car. As with the switch to B/R, I only have 2 points in car, and my only combat skill is unarmed. Might be better if I just rode with someone else...
Sandoval Smith
Whizbang I'd suggest trying to sell the Westwind (can you ever have too much money? Don't answer that). With a Car 2, I'd defintely suggest you filling in as a backup driver.

Remember that Gremish gave us 6 extra skill points. As I've said before, gunnery covers most vehicle mounted weapons. Since vehicle combat is pretty much going to be a given, any firearm skill is going to be a good investment. Also, like I said before, several of our vehicles will need more than one person in them.

Tashio, note that the Electroglide is listed under "Bikes." The Hughes is listed at the bottom under "Helicopter."
Whizbang
Spent the 6 point on car b/r...of course, that might have been more useful if all our vehicles were cars...
Sandoval Smith
Then I'd suggest reassigning at least a couple of those to a combat skill.

Gremish: I can modify either the "tank" or the helicopter to carry a mobile medical unit. I'll ask around on the street to find out which would be better to kit out like that (whether it'd be better to have an "ambulance" we can drive around with all the time, or if turning the Hughes into a "rescue chopper" is the best idea).
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