HOW does one pronounce 'Tir Tairngire??' I don't think I've heard it the same way twice. It's giving me heartburn.

TEAR (As in crying) TEAR(as in "tearing" paper)N GIE AR

There's a thread or six in the forum about how to pronounce it correctly.

I tend to fall back on "Faries of the American Northwest" or "Oregon"

If you use the Gaelic pronunciation, I believe that it's SHEER sharn-GEAR.

I always liked Ameri-Tir and Euro-Tir. Much easier to say.

I quite often use 'American Ponce Land' or 'Irish Ponce Land', but should I be bothered to try the real thing I usually use Tir T-air-n-g-ire.

Prolly way off, but who gives a frag? :o)

I ran it through a text to speach program (not exactly the most accurate method), and it came up with this:

Tir = "T-ier"
Tairngire = "Tan-GUY-er"

LordHaHa

I'm afraid I can't be definitive, because I've never heard the word "Tairngire" actually used, but I do speak Gaelic as it is taught in schools in Ireland pretty well, and I'm about 95% confident that it's pronounced Tear Tarn-grr-uh.

"ai" is a diphthong which is pronounced either like the 'a' in ban or the 'i' in fire. Preceding an r, it would almost definitely be pronounced the former way.

'G's are always hard 'g's, unless they're followed by a 'h'*, in which case, the 'gh' is a soft guttural sound.

Lone 'i's are always pronounced like the 'i's in bit.

And the normal process of speech makes a final 'e' sound like uh.

Tír na nÓg would be pronounced Tear na nogue (rhymes with the Pogues).

Dexy's got it pretty right. It more or less means "The land of promise" in Irish Gaelic.

Pronounce: Cheer thar -ing-irreh.
(th as in 'there', 'they', with the 'i' in 'ing' only long enough to let you pronounce the 'ng')

More or less. It depends on the dialect of Irish Gaelic you want to use...because they pronounce things very differently.

If it makes any of you feel better, most Irish gamers can't pronounce it worth a damn either. It's like naming a country in old Anglo-Saxon because it's "Cool, man". Grrrrrrrr.

I am a Mutant-talk-monkey.

Tir Tangire? I always liked "gay elf land" myself.

I call Aztlan, Mexico.

And how do you pronounce Salish Sidhe?
I mean, seriously.
It looks gaelic (the second part) but obviously couldn't be.

I pronounce it Teer Tayrn Geer. Salish Sidhe would be Salish Shee in pronounciation wouldn't it?

"Sidhe" is the usual gaelic word. "Salish" is the name of North American Native culture.

Okay, if you really want, to know, it comes from "Salst", which means "person" in Okanagan, one of the languages of the Salish group. I guess an explorer pointed a finger toward some Okanagan guy wanting to know what was the name of their tribe. Since the previous questions were about the word for a fish, a tree or whatever, the guy simply answered he was a person.

That's not unusual. Most tribal group names merely mean 'the people', because obviously all those foreigners aren't real people. Heck - many modern nation states still have that world view.

Like those cannibals who call each other "people" and everyone else "the edible ones".

On that note , does anyone have any good ideas for a name for a Troll country.
Thrash metal / ballad is the anthem ! Im kinda looking for a SR/ED crossover with some kewlness thrown in . I know im asking a lot

Just to chime in on the name game. 'Manitou' as in Algonkian-Manitou Council is the Algonkian name for spirit. Which is also where the the province Manitoba gets its name. This is what my ling professor told me. He studies Salishian and Algonkian languages.

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I and my characters just call it Elfopolis.

From what I've heard, Trogs are about the only race that never had their own language or culture, so they'd have to make something completely new.

If a certain dragon is to be believed, it was destroyed by a plague of the infamous "hell-cows."

Isn't the Black Forest/Schwartzwald some sort of Troll Empire now?

Yup, the Black Forest Troll Kingdom (Trollkönigreich Schwarzwald), it's part of the Allied German States (AGS). Although there have been some recent changes since the King up and vanished a year or so ago.