Yet another reason to take those spells.

source for which?

Usually being the mage in question. At that point ether or not I am covered in blood is the least of my concerns.

Edward

Prior use of Prime Material. I've done some digging, and I can't find a reference other than D&D.

~J

The Physical Dimension where the Solar system, earth, seattle exists in all it different timeline permutations is the "Prime Material Plane" but an Iron round still has the ability to kill a shadowrunner, thought not through allergy.

Thank you James, I do appreciate the help. Although I do still encourage constructive criticism, helps me give the board the definition it really needs.

And since I do often use Rifts ( areas where the "barrier" that keeps all other planes has been Fractured ) I'll help get this thread back on track.

If you find yourself in another Plane/Dimension
1. Always carry a ranged weapon, slingshots can be easily made and Ammo for them is always CHEAP. For your Gunpowder might not always go off while the Hometeam is sniping at you.
2. If you've never seen it befor, keep your distance until you've clarified how Nasty or Nice it is.
3. If it's Nasty start loading up on Iron rounds (already covered), if your gunpowder is ineffective, EJECT THE CLIP and start peckin away at it with your Slingshot.
4. If it's not from your plane of existence please don't try to Deck into it, it might have the ability to Deck into you, besides you may know all the programing languages developed at home, but the best you can really hope for is to be speaking greek to each other.
5. When in rome, do as the Romans.
6. If you take it home with you, tell no one where you got it, this will help your reputation.
7. If you think Your Technology gives you an advantage over them, keep in mind they outnumber you.
8. Rats, if raised correctly, will make the cleanest, smartest, and most affecitionate pets, easily kept in a pocket, which is really nice when you run out of the food you brought with you. Thier sense of smell will usually keep them from eating anything poisonous, and if they can eat it, so can you, no matter how ugly and unappetizing it looks.
9. Locate a source of fresh water Immediately.
10. Pissing off the local government is definitely a no no, last thing we need is another Planes War.

I was referring to the iron vs fey creatures actually. No clue on the "prime".
Sorry for the confusion.

Actually there are a few Fantasy authors who use Iron as an extremely deadly poison for Fey, Charles De Lint for example. I simply use it because besides Deities and Rats I refuse to have a creature (<{["IN MY GAME"]}>) that cannot be killed.

As far as I know (and I do know), Ed Greenwood was not yet involved even peripherally with D&D when the phrase 'Prime Material Plane' was first used by TSR. If you'd have said Gygax, then your argument would have had more merit.

In at least Celtic Folklore the fey are very vulnerable to iron. The fey, and the Tuatha De Dannan to be exact, are thought to have ruled Ireland until the Celts invaded, bringing iron with them. Authors like De Lint (and excellent writer by the way) are simply drawing from older sources.

As far as iron affecting any creature from a different plane, silver and/or salt are often better bets in what mythology/folklore/BS reading I've done.

Given that its been over fifteen years and I've done a lot of partying in that time, it could very well have been Gygax. But like I said, I don't have the memory or the collection to give a full quote. Whether you believe me or not is up to you.

Such as throwing spilled salt over your left shoulder to ward off evil spirits. Yay for superstition!

Gygax's D&D magic was supposed to be based off of real world magic. AD&D 1st edition actually has sketches of "magic circles". So he probably got the idea from SOMEWHERE. Not really a reference, just what I remember about it.


I love how we ramble off on totally different topics!

One man's superstition is anothers religion. Look at the new age movement.

-fistandantilus3.0


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