Nope my friendit looks good on paper but you wont get far. Once you are inside the system, and a bank at that as in your example you will probably face systems with matrix attributes of 8 at least and a very passive system (at least on the surface)

First they will have IC that scans, let's assume 8 of them with Analyze, Track and a few others. They will make ONE opposed roll each against ALL your agents.

EACH of your agents will make a roll with their stealth+pilot. if ANY of them are found out they WILL send a trace so I hope you are ready to spoof all of your commlinks at once.

And with 30+ agents some of them WILL be found out, and the alert will be sounded.

Sure, you will be unbeatable inside the node, but you will be traced, and you can bet that you will have the corporations after you. You might have cash, but where will you hide them?

The tactic you described works, but it would be very much like robbing a 7-11 with a minor army - people WILL notice, people WILL talk.

So yes, as a oneshot it will work, but you wont get away with it because it is not how shadowrunners work, you DONT want to be noticed.

so yea, aaaw CRAP!

Hrm. The commlinks could be mailed all over the globe and logged into remotely.

No worries, THAT I do know. But any GM worth his salt will not let you get close to the bank. There will probably be layers of systems and a lot more security than just it being in space, perhaps even manual confirmation of any datapackage sent from earth and suchlike.

The security and safety of that station would be up to the GM, and you would probably have to have access to 1 of the perhaps 20 computer terminals with any kind of access to that system, or something that links to another piece of the security.

Trust me, I WORK in a bank, there is never ONE system, and you would need a six month campaign just to know how to FIND the system for ZO.

Still, as a purely technical example it WOULD work, but it is not the work of a runner, more of a rampant matrix army.

No. It requires preprogrammed orders. Which you can easily do with Pilot programs.

No. I'm suggesting a "branch structure"-- a network, not a tier system. No one would be more or less further away from anyone else, if it was matrixed out properly. Besides which, you don't have to waste actions when your signals hop from node to node; each commlink hosting the extra agents would be acting as a node.

That doesn't matter, since you can't even start with an agent above 4. You can get away with this by running multiple agents on multiple commlinks. Heck, my assumption was that programs loaded into an Agent count against the commlink's System/Response, and you can still hit impossible levels.

Unfortunately, you don't-- which makes it exactly as you said later, what's the point of more expensive commlinks?

You only need to buy a program once. That makes this trick dirt-cheap.

Oddly enough, tracking 10 hidden signals is much tougher than finding one. If you know what you're looking for, you only need 4 successes on an EW+Scan test. However, if you're trying to locate hidden nodes among other signals, the threshold goes up to 15.

A rating 4 agent can be loaded with Stealth, Exploit, Attack, and whichever other program you think'll be useful.

Let's go with 10 commlinks, each packing four Rating-4 Agents, and each commlink subscribed to your main commlink. Assuming that each one is packing Exploit 4, you can *buy* 80 successes right off the top. If the GM disallows autosuccesses, then we're looking at an average of over 100 successes.

What about critical fumbles? Well, the odds of a critical fumble on 8 dice are 256 in 1,679,616. So, the odds are that you'll bolo in one out of every 6500+ rolls. We're not going to be making anywhere near that number of tests, so we're not at all likely to have the threshold go up.

Kremlin went over most of the rest.

Okay then, let's even assume a rating 10 OMG system. We're talking Z-O, here, so we can go super-mega-uber on this one. Using the burly-man army described above, let's assume that you get a poor deviation, and only get 80 successes for extra dice. That, plus your skill 5 and Exploit 5, gives you 90 dice to attack the front door with. Once again, we have so many dice, we could just buy enough successes to enter; if we roll, we're looking at an average of 30 successes. You only need 16 to enter with admin access, so you're going to make it easily.

Now, you're inside with Z-O with admin access. You shut off the alert, then open the gates, and have all your agents come pouring inside. Now, they're preprogrammed to upload out of their personas, and start running on the Z-O node; your admin codes authorize them as legit searchbots, or something. Assuming that Z-O is running no other programs at all, it's Response has just dropped by 4 points, to a 6. That means all the IC has also dropped in effectiveness. At best, Z-O can only have 9 pieces of IC active, so your orders are for half the agents to attack the IC. 9 pieces of rating 6 IC vs 20 rating 4 agents? No contest, the agents are going to win. 10 of the remaining agents are going to be uploading copies of themselves as fast as possible, further reducing the Response rating, and thus the System and IC ratings as well. Even better, odds are that the Z-O IC is packing more than 4 programs; they'll probably be packing more than 6, possibly even a full 8. Once you've forced the Z-O Response to beneath their number of programs, the IC's rating will drop by another point. Before long, the IC's Track programs are going to be reduced to a point where you'll no longer have to be worried about them.

Now in come the security deckers. Well, unfortunately for them, you and the last 10 agents have been busy erasing all the other security and admin accounts, so they're going to have no advantages over you. You can even turn the remaining IC onto them. But best of all, you've still got hordes of agents running around the system, all flagged as legit programs. Eventually they'll all drop to rating zero, as you force enough copies of them onto Z-O to crash it, but in the meanwhile you'll have a disgusting numerical advantage, even assuming that you don't go for a Teamwork test at any time. You'll own the system, and thus the world.

Now, this is Zurich Orbital, the super-nasty holy grail of Shadowrun. An AAA megacorp isn't even going to be close to that nasty on all but it's most hypersecure systems. Assuming we repeat the Burly Man attack, but against a Rating 5 Firewall + Rating 5 Analyze system, the odds are somewhat in your favor that you won't be detected.

You forgot to crack your reality filter. You reality filter needs to be totally cracked to try this, or almost any other idea posted in this thread.