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JonathanC
QUOTE (ChaLk)
Just putting in my 2 cents....
I feel that the three books are while perhaps not the strongest work from the author, they are a decent (and much needed) addition to the SR library. A lot of people have noted that they're effectively a good introduction for people who don't know the game and in that I believe they succeed admirably. The feel and some of the mechanics/background of the game are dealt with here in these three novels much better than in some of the shadowrun novels I've read (some of which have been pretty poor). Let me put it this way, I'm fairly regularly wanting to introduce new people to shadowrun, and this is a pretty good way to do it. That said, not perfect by any means.
I also think that looking at these three books more as one book split into three parts is a better way to think of it. In fact I'm pretty certain that many of the issues (character depth, etc) would be solved had these books been compressed into one volume.
In all, i'm pretty happy to see new Shadowrun novels coming and want to see more.
(that said, no more Kellan Colt books, at least for a while okay, there's many amazing possibilities for characters so let's explore those a while shall we). indifferent.gif

I want a Jackie Ozone book. Or maybe G-Dogg. nyahnyah.gif
JM Hardy
QUOTE (JonathanC)
I want a Jackie Ozone book. Or maybe G-Dogg.  nyahnyah.gif

Then I should point out that Jackie Ozone plays a pretty significant role in Drops of Corruption. She's not the main character, but she's prominent. Kellen Colt does not appear; G-Dogg has a cameo.

Jason H.
BookWyrm
Well, I'm back from ICON25, and I finally met Steve Kenson. Nice guy. At his panel on gaming in general, he answered the question about what was with his new SR books, and we were right. The contracts had been signed & an outline of the story for all 3 books was already completed before WizKids dropped SR Duels from their line. The books were pretty much in limbo until recently, and FanPro went ahead with it. Steve can explain it better, but he's not going to be back here (in NY or the boards) anytime soon. He's got his obligations at Green Ronin.

But it was good to finally meet him. I had worked with him through an APAzine years ago, when SR2 & 3 were new. We'd e-mailed back & forth sporatically, mostly on helping me clarify some stuff from MitS.

I don't consider myself a fan (as the term is derived from the root word 'fanatic') of anything. My interests vary. I feel Steve did a good job on these novels, as he's done in the past. Not everyone will be happy, but that's what happens when anything is published.
Adam
QUOTE
The books were pretty much in limbo until recently, and FanPro went ahead with it.

WizKids. FanPro didn't have anything to do with the novels.
JonathanC
QUOTE (JM Hardy)
QUOTE (JonathanC)
I want a Jackie Ozone book. Or maybe G-Dogg.  nyahnyah.gif

Then I should point out that Jackie Ozone plays a pretty significant role in Drops of Corruption. She's not the main character, but she's prominent. Kellen Colt does not appear; G-Dogg has a cameo.

Jason H.

Is that book out yet?


Also, re: Steve Kenson, the irony here is that I knew him from his Green Ronin work before I knew he did anything with Shadowrun...I'm a big fan of his Mutants and Masterminds/Freedom City line. And yes, given the sheer amount of time he spends answering official rules questions over on the M&M boards, I'm shocked he has time to travel, let alone post on other boards. eek.gif
ATimson
QUOTE (JonathanC)
Is that book out yet?

Nope. It's officially a May book, but it should start showing up in late April.
JonathanC
Ah, cool.

**Spoiler Warning**









Speaking of the Kenson books though, has anyone else got an idea of why Jackie Ozone's Cross Technology Johnson wanted to get those bio-weapons into the hands of a Toxic Shaman? I mean, the guy was pretty crazy, so there was no telling where he might strike with it. Seems rather irresponsible, and possibly likely to blow back on them. I don't think this was ever addressed in Poison Agendas or Fallen Angels.
Paul
Steve has answered all of my PM's, and I've seen him and a few other freelancers poke around here.

I'll give the FL people credit man-no matter what my opinion of their work, they always give me and others (as far as I know) time of day.
BookWyrm
Drops of Corruption is out. Check your local Borders or Barnes & Noble bookstore.
Garland
The thing that irked me about Poison Agendas is that the only piece of cyberware in it was a pair of cheap cybereyes on an unimportant character who gets killed. If I didn't already know anything about SR, I simply wouldn't know that cyberware is a big part of the setting.

Too much magic all around. The team was mostly awakened, the threat was awakened... the mundane (I assume he's mundane) dwarf was just sort of there, dressed in his dwarf getup with an axe. Way too one-sided with regards to the setting.
SL James
I'm shocked.
Bigity
QUOTE (Cheops)
Just got it on Monday and finished it this morning. Very short read. Wasn't too bad. Definitely went back to the punkish roots of cyberpunk. A good primer manual for getting people interested in general. Not worth the $10+sales tax canadian that I spent but Chapters has very loose return policies so I'm not overly concerned.

What I don't get is why it is set in SR3? Maybe this is why I work in baseball and not game development but it seems like you'd want your supporting products to support your main product. I.e. the new edition you just released. The world presented in this book and the world presented in SR4 are different enough to cause problems. I was expecting a book that'd give an idea of the flavor that FanPro was going with for AR but alas! Not so. Instead it's set sometime in early 2060 (not 2053 like the back of the book says unless Fuchi happened to suddenly collapse earlier than in the rpg). Probably has to do with the fact that it was released so fast that the author didn't have time to work with the new material. Oh well...mine is going back and will more than likely be sent back to the publisher.

Don't get me wrong...it's a good read if you set aside a whole afternoon or day to read it. I'd recomend getting it from the library however.

It sucked, period. What a crap piece of literature to attempt to reuse material that already failed (Duels).

I won't be buying any more Shadowrun novels, barring a couple of authors that can write interesting stuff. Sorry Kenson, nothing personal, but I felt it was horrible.
ATimson
QUOTE (Bigity)
It sucked, period. What a crap piece of literature to attempt to reuse material that already failed (Duels).

I'd like to point out that the novels were originally written to accompany Duels, back before the failure; future novels weren't written then, as Jason Hardy said above, but were written as SR3 novels within the last year.
Bigity
Yup I did just read that and was incorrect, about that part. It's all personal opinion though (what I said).
BookWyrm
I'd like to take a moment to post ths quote, from a freind's dad;

"There is no such things as a Bad Book, you learn something from everyone. It may be poorly written, but it was published and you are reading it, so find something to enjoy and learn in it."
SL James
Or don't read it in the first place.
fistandantilus4.0
"but then ya' won't learn nothin'!"
BookWyrm
OK, I finally finished Drops of Corruption today. Yes, it's been a while, a few stopgaps had to be taken (thanks Real Life!---NOT), but I thouroughly enjoyed this novel. Much kudos to JM Hardy. smokin.gif
JM Hardy
QUOTE (BookWyrm)
OK, I finally finished Drops of Corruption today. Yes, it's been a while, a few stopgaps had to be taken (thanks Real Life!---NOT), but I thouroughly enjoyed this novel. Much kudos to JM Hardy. smokin.gif

Thanks, BookWyrm! Avoid real life!
SL James
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
"but then ya' won't learn nothin'!"

Yes. But I hardly see the value in paying to learn the lesson of, "don't write like this, or demons will eat your children."
BookWyrm
Each book you read is different. If you took the word of someone who hates the particular book you're interested in, you loose your own perspective. Lots of people don't care to read the Harry Potter boks (like myself), but those who read them, praise them.

Read the book, form your own opinion.
Adam
So, James should read this novel even though he doesn't want to, but you don't have to read Harry Potter? :rollseyes:
SL James
I've also read enough Kenson's fiction that I really don't see the point in having to read more. It's not like I never picked up Ragnarock or Technobabel or ... Crossroads. It's just that I couldn't finish them. But it's not like the time I nearly threw a paperback copy of USS Seawolf as far as I could within the bookstore because it offended my literary and virtually all of my other senses and sensibilities because it was SO awful. I just put Kenson's books back on the shelf and made a face. But at least I tried.
toturi
I like the trilogy. Given the fact that it is supposed to be a SR3 book and is based on Duels, I can understand the material and the limitations that the author had to work with. It is simple, enjoyable light reading.

When you read a book, you are entering the author(and his editor)'s view of the world. If you are willing to discard what you "know" of the game world and its rules, it becomes much more enjoyable.
SL James
I've had enough of his world.

I was telling a friend who's going to Gencon to send Kenson my regards if he passes the GR booth. Because in my mind, the better he does witn M&M and True20, the further away he'll ever be again from Shadowrun.
winterhawk11
According to Amazon, Aftershock (novel #5 in the series) came out yesterday. Time for me to wander down to Barnes and Noble and see if they have it yet...
BookWyrm
QUOTE (Adam)
So, James should read this novel even though he doesn't want to, but you don't have to read Harry Potter? :rollseyes:

I'm saying he should make his own decision.
BookWyrm
QUOTE (winterhawk11)
According to Amazon, Aftershock (novel #5 in the series) came out yesterday. Time for me to wander down to Barnes and Noble and see if they have it yet...

Barnes & Noble has the entry for A Fistful of Data by Stephen Dedman, but no cover graphic.....unless you picked up the recent Previews catalog & looked in the Gaming section. biggrin.gif
BookWyrm
OK, after finally getting the latest novel Aftershock finished, I'll post my review here.

Short & sweet: 4.5 out of 5.

Long version: This novel DOES take place in the SR4 timeline, so we get all the lingo & tech we've been waiting for since the release of SR4, & the writers do a bang-up job of telling a story. Well worth the $6.99 + tax.
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