yah im binding them using the binding mats


Will one elemental be enough or can we delay departure till the evening at least?

Cogar - I have no idea what sort of deal Patch and Avenger are going to come up with, or what time Raven can cast off, or what sort of boat he has, but in my personal OOC opinion -
* Your spirits will be worth their weight (?) in gold down in CFS
* It might be pretty hard to set up a magical lodge, depending on the boat
* The point Ginger and I made about getting on the boat ASAP was to prioritize that over everything we couldn't do in Seattle. Seems to me like the binding is better done in Seattle than down in CalFree. Anyway, it's only four more hours than Sebastian and Al are already ahead of Avenger and Patch.

Who knows? Maybe this Raven guy can't take off before eight hours anyway.

So my one vote out of five is to go ahead and take the four hours to bind the second spirit.

And don't forget to send my Y50 - I am totally tapped!!! (-:

Yeah, that's very true. But you could break it up, like you wanted, use the services of the first one, so it's gone, and then summon the other and use it's services. You'd just be useing them 1 at a time.

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I didn't see that this had gone over to the 11th page until after I posted. But you could still do that, or bind one, and just have it hangin' out, and have the other, unbound, and use it for what ever on the boat. That way you have one bound spirit, to hold in reserve, in case you really need it, and then you can just summon up other spirits as needed.
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Rokur, and Gingerkid

Try giving him the coin, if you've still got it. Unless you really intend to pay the man.

I don't have the coin on me... Patch does... or at least I assume that's what was in the pouch.

And I was setting him up teamwork man! teamwork! offer a semi-low but fair sounding logical price... but then show him a coin that he might think is worth much more than what we're offering and voila! free trip! can't just show all your aces from the door!

cmon! poker face!

lol, that's true.

Remind me never to play poker with you, lol.

No joke, unless I become a super powerful hacker/technomancer and can filter the output of thier eyes live, so they don't see my cards of better yet, different cards.

Hey - as long as we are on this digression -
Al certainly learned a lot about playing cards in the Shadowrunner League (believe me, the people he's been bamboozling at the poker table for the past 20 years did NOT have Sebastian's analytical capabilities). So he will have to specify some precautions in the future.
But as a general 6th world note - can we agree that by the 2050s the cards themselves are laminated in such a way that they cannot be seen THROUGH with any sort of cybereyes?

I would say so. And in casinos now the cards are probably placed under a high powered EMP to kill any stealth chips that may be implanted on the cards, and broadcasting what it is on a certain frequency.

I'd even go as far as to say they have a polorized coating that prevents people from reading the cards out of the reflections of other people's eyes. Beacuse a dealer checking his hand jsut right and John Q. Cheater zooms in on his eyes, and bam, he knows exactly when to fold or raise.

Of course that's not to say lower quality cards don't exist.....

I think that people would wear matte(non-reflective sunglasses instead of having special cards. That seems more like a player's responability to me then the house's

Well I was thinking in terms of Dealers.

But that's neither here nore there since by 2070, I'd imagine all major casinos like the Tangires, or Ceaser's Palace, would have no doubt switched to AR cards instead of real decks of cards.

That might be true for the old retired types - witness how content they are just to push a button on their beloved slot machines now, rather than actually have to pull the crank.
But for REAL gamblers - don't underestimate the tremendous power of superstition. Also the tactile pleasure they receive from expertly handling the cards. Not to mention the idea that the 'cards don't lie' - too good/bad luck in an AR game will just get people screaming 'hack.'
So I definitely think you are right - for the tourists. But the real gamblers have been using the same cards for hundreds of years despite even today's innovations, and I think they'll keep doing so.

Anyway, just a fun side topic while we wait for other things to move along.

Whoa, hate to be a naysayer two posts in a row, but I don't see anything about Smartlinks being able to track a target that the user can't keep track of with their own eyes. And even if it could, what if line of sight is broken, as when the shuffler holds two halves of the deck in his hands - he can easily fully screen them for a moment or two - once LOS is gone, how will the smartlink distinguish which card is which?
So, I guess you are using the SL for the weapon up your sleeve? Or if you have SL capability, can you route the sensor functions directly to your eyes?
Al will give the cards a good shuffle, making sure to break LOS for the whole deck, and lower his eyes while he does so. And Al won't try to keep track of the Ace himself, so he won't be able to give it away with a tell.

I'll roll my card tricks knowledge skill to make sure I know just how to really fully randomize the deck, and seriously lose a 'tracked' card among all the others.
Attribute + skill = seven dice
6 5 1 6 4 4 1 = 3 hits

Then I will do the shuffle, using Palming/Legerdemain
Attribute + skill + specialization + special bonus die (see sheet) = 6 dice

6 1 5 1 2 3 = 2 hits

Adam, for the OOC record, thats just Sebastian's sense of humor acting up, he doesn't really have anything with the smartlink. Likewise Sebastian's againt going to stand down from his bluff.

Dude, I totally took you seriously. Sorry. I was, like, scouring the new SR4 smartlink rules - I can't say I've got them down very well yet - thinking you had worked out yet another cool and unique application for your cyberware. Definitely our first taste of humor from Sebastian! (In character, anyway. The sum effect from the outside looking in has been hilarious.) Right on.

Thanks. I don't know how you want to work drawing the card. They way its set up right now there is a 9.6% chance of drawing ace, or the ace being within 2 of the card that I drew. We could randomly generate a number between 1 and 10, and if its 10 I get the ace (about the same odds). Or one of us could draw the card from a well shuffled deck.
Any thoughts?

How about you roll, your intuition+logic against a threshold of 3 or 4.

Thats 6 dice (3 each)


2 hits

Oh, I was thinking sebastian roll that, to see if he can follow the card. Al's card trick roll and shuffle roll, were fine. But again since it's not really a plot point I'm not really worried about how it's handled. You guys can handle your bet however you feel it will work best, I was just making a suggestion.

Anyway, just double checkng, nobody is waiting on me for anything are they?

nope. Waiting for patch and avie and gore

well avie's waiting on patch to make the next play...

Well, his last post was time-date stamped May 24, about 8:30 am. That's over four full days ago in RL.
Now, there is going to come a day when I can't post for a few cycles, and I will hope people will be patient with me - that's a big part of why we are playing this medium - all busy with RL stuff and so on.
But I hope that if I ever am gone for that long, that people will just step over my actions and keep things moving. And if that is absolutely impossible, I hope Kiedo will step in and play my character for me.
You know, just enough so that other people aren't waiting on me. And only if I really am not heard of for two days or more.
That's just for me, though.

DV - as for our little wager - personally, I don't think all the intuition and logic in the world will help you track the card in those circumstances (and if you could, you got the same number of successes as me on the GM-suggested test, which gets us nowhere).
Since you are right that you have roughly a 1 in 10 chance, why don't you just grab a d10 or d20 and roll it. We'll go by whatever you get.

To be completely accurate you'd need a 52 sided die, since your looking for one specific card, The Ace of Spades, from my understanding. Which means a 1 in 52 chance of getting it right.

But I try my best not to take over my player's characters, because I don't know them as well as you do, and don't think I can be true to them. Now if I have advanced notice, then that's another story, but just from a few days of not posting, nah, not really.

Besides it's memorial day weekend, party weekend.

Well, I did say that if the Ace was within two cards of the one I picked. Ergo I technically get 5 cards, just all drawn from the same place.
that said....
The moment of Truth

I need a 10

Lol, looks like you'll be buyin' for the rest of the run.

On the bright side, there aren't going to be alot of bars in the coming portion and in the "climax".

Kiedo - more GM torture - You said any RL stuff I found applied, so I can do a lot by myself. Unfortunately, I cannot get a satellite image that zooms down to the structural level for the coordinate you gave us. Is this also Al's plight, or can he get something better? Or is there something better that would actually take some die rolling and all that?

Also - some things that should be very easy to find, but I can't get in RL -
- I have the general weather conditions for Scott Valley, but Al would like to get the weather forecast for that area for the next week 11/6-13/70.

- How about current news reports on hostilities in the region? How hot or cold is the war there right now? Any news on where particular battles are being fought?

More to come....

Okay - few more questions - is there still great big microwave tower roughly at the coordinates we were given for Jewel?

How up to date is the info on Hestaby and her personal domain - right in the middle of the war zone (and next to or on top of the coordinates) - how up to date is the info in Dragons of the Sixth World? Are those Shadowland posts back up? Are the time-date stamps on the posts still in 2063, or have they been updated?

When Al digs up this Pythian Cave place at the coordinates - in RL it talks about various Americanized gnostic groups using it for rituals - when Al looks it up in 2070, does he find any more recent references, or do the references all stop in the 19th and 20th century?

Thanks, Adam.

I can't find any structure level zooms of within 7 miles of the coordinates myself, I've been relying on Google Earth heavily for my planning of the run, and it's very fuzzy until you move about 7 miles north north west. I'd of course by making any information up that I give you for the exact site. So I guess Al can't get anything better than I can get with Google Earth.

Forecast for the week of 11.6.70 to 11.13.70 are as follows, normal yearly tempuratures, little percipitation until the latter part of the week were a snow storm is expected. Thursday through Monday, partly cloudy scattered snow, expected snowfall 1-4 centimeters. Tuesday through Thursday, Snow storm expected snowfall 15-30 centimeters, a red alert has been issued for Scott Valley and the surrounding areas to stay indoors.

War Report, the war has hit a cold spot due to the oncoming storm, with the Tir Military pulling back to north of the former Oregon line, and the CFS Military camping out in Mount Shasta. Little conflict is forecast between the two waring countries until the pass of the blizzard.

The tower is still there, but decommissioned.

Crappit, I forgot that Hestaby controlled about 60% of the conflict zone, but looking over DOTSW the info is as up to date as I care to have it.

I knew I shouldn't have told you it was okay for Al to know anything you could find. Oh well, the cave's history of Occult use stops Abruptly when Hestaby claims the reigion. But until then various groups use and control it.

Dude, thanks. I just edited the big info dump I wrote last night to reflect your answers to my queries.

So - 11/6/70 is a Wednesday?

Actually it's a thursday.

Still thinking about what Al said, but Sebastian wants reall quickly spoof a comm ID and profile, and use it to order a portable satalight, som moduel and trodes to be delivered asap.
they are not controlled items, so I don't think it requires a roll to find.

To mask account:
spoof6+hacking3

6 hits total, that should hold. and yes, I am paying with my own money, I'm just making it look like it came from someone else bank account, and someone elses ID.
I'll have it devlivered to our current location, asap, and I'll pay extra for that.

Sattelite Linkup: 500
Sim Module (I guess that what you ment by "som moduel"):100
trodes: 50 :nuynen:
Delivery Fee: 10% (65 )
Grand Total: 715

ETA: 15 minutes, from Sine Electronics.

As I said you don't have to roll for anything under a certain availability (12 or less, 10R or less, and 8F or less), it speeds things up.

Your welcome to do the IC for the delivery guy.

damn! 15 minute order to delivery! wow! now THAT's service!!!

I'm going to use the 15 minuets till it arrives scouting for imformation on the terrain and trying to construct a 3 dimesional layout of the area that the target was last seen in. I beleive that this would be Edit, however I have not idea how I would go about rolling this....

la la la la...... <<plays theme from jeapordy>> Humm humm

Arg... I forgot I was taking a trip to New York for the long weekend. I will catch up reading and post later this morning hopefully. Sorry about the delay.

bump.

Keido, what do I roll for createing a 3D virtual replication of the terran that the target is in?

Err..umm edit. You'll need to use browse to collect the appropriate data. Analyze to figure out where each piece goes, and edit to put it all together.

It's complicated, but what your doing is.

ok. Thread a Browse.

Resonace+software+fullsubmersion=9
3 2 4 6 3
3 1 3 2

So thats 1 hit.

Soak drain DV 1
6 5 6 5 2
2 4 6 3
soaked NP

browse1+full submersion 2=3

thats 18 hits in the whole 15 minuets. Since I assume its not exact I will take an extra minuet to work on this. (thats a total of 40 IPs)

So, I will assume I need an equal number of analyse successes.

Computer 1+analyze 6+full subermsion 3=9


Total of 21 hits.

Now, for editing. I assume I need twice as many hits, since this is the most complicated part. So lets say some 42 hits.
I'm going to spend 1 IP to thread my edits.
Total dice pool of Edit 6+ Threading 5-Sustained 2+ computer 1+ full subermersion 2=12

Thats 45 hits and 4 combat turns left. Any more successes needed?

Well, Actually I was thinking you only needed to roll once for each test. I had a plan for the map, but I'll have to adapt that now, it's my fault for not being specific enough. Sooo, this is what I'm going to do. To make the map you've created more than a bit of roleplaying fluff, I'm going to introduce some house rules to make it functional, this will also apply to mapsofts.

Using Maps
When a character uses a map to aid in navigation they add half the rating, rounded up, of the map to thier dice pool when rolling a navigation test. A three dimensional map adds it's full rating, but cannot be printed and must be accessed by commlink or technomancer. When using a 3 dimensional map, no bonus is awarded for running in hot sim mode.


Now you've rolled 18 hits for browse, 21 hits for analyze, and 45 hits for edit, I was going to just average the three round up and call that the map rating but that would give you a rating 28 map, and that's not realistic. So for sake of sanity we'll call your shiney new map, rating 6.

Just because I like having the two threads next to each other.

Hey, just in case anyone else is as anally dysfunctional as myself - I just wanted to note that I went back and very slightly modified my May 24 1031 am IC post to reflect the fact that by the time Al sent a message at mid-day, he would have already received the evening meet time details from Avenger and Patch.

ok cool well then gear list for Avenger:
shopping at a local store: All items will be brought in backpack if gotten:
Self inflating Tent, 30 days ration bars, Cold weather sleeping bag.

Worn:
Ares Predator IVs worn in Hidden gun arm slides (both arms) loaded regular ammo, bringing 4 extra clips regular ammo, two extra clips EX EX ammo.
HK227S in shoulder strap holsters underneath the jacket of his cham suit. loaded regular ammo, bringing 4 extra clips regular ammo, two extra clips EX EX ammo.
Chameleon suit + Helmet (with special earbud function... or just earbuds on).
Biomonitor on ankle attached to trauma patch to auto slap on when dying....
Flyspy in skin pocket.

Hiking Backpack: B+E toolkit with sequencer, lockpick set, and autopicker, GPS, Survival Kit, Glue Sprayer, Plasteel Restraint, the other SMG, about 100 extra regular rounds, and the rest of the gear just purchased.

Sorry to break this on you... but I won't be able to post after tonight until probably sunday night, so about 3 days of no posting. Sorry to do this to y'all and feel free to NPC my character however you see fit.

I probably won't have to much, and I'll reread the background in case I have to do more than just walk him on the boat.

I'll tell you what, leave me a list, in a PM of anything you want done on the boat before you make landfall, that way depending on how far we get in your absence I won't have to "wing it" very much. Which serves the dual purpose of me not getting too of character with him and saving me some guess work.

Okay, to my earlier gear list, I add -
stocking cap
trode rig from Seb
hard copies of the maps I made

Now, Al is no hacker, but he knows his ways around computer hardware and software as well as anyone in 2070. Problem is, I don't. I am hopeless with computer in RL, but I don't want Al to come across that way, cuz he's not. So just to check if I've got this right - Al will use the trodes to access the map VR, but the sim module is on Sebastian's set up, and Al will essentially be accessing Seb"s PAN when he checks the map?

Okay - cleaning the rifle, per Kiedo"s earlier post.
Attribute + skill + specialization = 8 dice Need 8 successes, one hour interval
first hour - 6 5 4 3 3 1 3 1
second hour - 5 1 5 1 5 4 3 3
third hour - 2 2 5 3 6 3 4 1
fourth hour - 2 1 5 4 4 1 4 2 = 8 successes

At the sporting goods store Patch will pick up another waterproof bag that can hold two medkits and ration bars. He will also pick up a utility type belt, something with a couple of pouches that can hold his GPS, flashlight, and micro flare launcher.

At the liquor store he will pick up a 50 bottle of scotch.

This is what patch will be carrying.

In bag #1: AK97 rolled up in thermal blanket (clip has regular ammo in it). In ziplock type bag; 2 clips filled with regular ammo, 3 clips filled with gel rounds, one clip with 30 explosive rounds. Magnesium torches, light sticks, items in the BBB for the survival kit minus half the ration bars, micro-flares, duct tape, rope (hooked to outside), 200 in cash, and his helmet (hooked to the outside)

In bag #2: Patch's medkit. The medkit he will get on the boat. Half the ration bars from the survival kit. If it will fit, electronics kit.

In his belt: GPS, flashlight, microflare launcher loaded with one flare.

On his person: Comlink, contacts, earbud, 100 in cash, and the armor jacket he will get on the boat.

during my absence I suddenly remembered that I had taking fadeing from my various threadings, enough to give me a -1 penality for my map rolling. I still don't think this will have effected it enough to make it no longer be a rating 6, considering the number of extra hits I got.
That said, I will use this time trying to heal the stun damage, i.e. resting.
Thats 4 hours so 4 (body 5+ willpower 3) rolls

7 hits
and Sebastian is all better.