From the SR website:
Full Version: Runner Havens on its way
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| Runner Havens at Origins The printing presses did their mechanical magic, and today boxes of Runner Havens arrived at our door, so we’ll have them available for sale at Origins, and it will be everyone’s first chance to see the book! We’ll let you know when it will be on store shelves, and the eBook version will also be available in early July. |
YAY!
Now, we wait for the others.
Now, we wait for the others.
| QUOTE (Shadowmeet) |
| YAY! Now, we wait for the others. |
Never satisfied...
Is this for SR4?
Yes 
Whoot! Thanks for the heads up Jong.
| QUOTE (Geekkake) | ||
Never satisfied... |
Satisfaction breeds laziness. Laziness breeds stagnation. Stagnation breeds death.
Heh.
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Satisfaction breeds laziness. Laziness breeds stagnation. Stagnation breeds death. Heh. |
No, in my experience stagnation breeds mosquitos
| QUOTE (stevebugge @ Jun 28 2006, 05:03 PM) | ||||||
No, in my experience stagnation breeds mosquitos |
Okay, then the mosquitos become carriers for malaria or some other disease, and they pass it on to you, and then you are unlucky enough to not have any medicine, and then you die?
Mosquitos breed malaria, malaria breeds death. 
EDIT: Aagh! Beaten to the punch!
EDIT: Aagh! Beaten to the punch!
So the general public wont get it 'til 2 months after origins.
Hmmm, early July in pdf. Seems more like 2 weeks to me.
Unless you're waiting for the Dead Tree edition
Well, given that Origins starts tomorrow...
... that means RH's release date was correct! *shock*
... that means RH's release date was correct! *shock*
Now, we wait.
Well with how books have been announced and how books have actually been delivered I believe I have the right to be skeptical about the release dates and when the books actually show up.
Wow! Should it happen that the English original of a SR4 book will be available before the German translation? 
| QUOTE (Casper @ Jun 29 2006, 12:11 PM) |
| Well with how books have been announced and how books have actually been delivered I believe I have the right to be skeptical about the release dates and when the books actually show up. |
The book has been delivered from the printer to the publisher. The publisher, FanPro, will be taking a bunch to Origins so it will definitely be on sale at the con. Meanwhile the distributors should be getting their mitts in the next few days and from there its shipped to the stores that have preorders and orders... at that point its no longer up to FanPro (or even the distributor). If you want to make sure you get it on time, drop in your FLGS and give them a heads up the book is coming out (in case they missed the solicitation) or better yet place an order.
[edited to fix the FGLS/FLGS typo]
No small amount of anticipation from this corner of the globe!
Sooo....any posters here at Origins that picked up this books?
| QUOTE (Brahm) |
| Sooo....any posters here at Origins that picked up this books? |
If I were at Origins, I doubt I'd stop to chat on the net. lol
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| Is this for SR4? |
Barring something incredibly odd happening, I don't think we'll ever see a new book for any editions prior to SR4.
FGLS?
I believe it's a typo for FLGS: Favorite Local Game Store.
The 'F' used to be for 'Friendly', but stores have gotten surly lately
It might also be an acronym for "4th Edition Core Rulebook." It's would be as intuitively obvious as BBB.
Hardcopy before pdf? Hm.
Looking forward to it, but looking forward to the rulebooks more: Arsenal, Augmentation and Street Magic.
Looking forward to it, but looking forward to the rulebooks more: Arsenal, Augmentation and Street Magic.
It used to be Friendly Neighborhood Gaming Store (FNGS) until the military types pointed out what FNGs were.
| QUOTE (Shrike30) |
| It used to be Friendly Neighborhood Gaming Store (FNGS) until the military types pointed out what FNGs were. |
Military?
Former Navy Guy/Gal?
Florida National Guard?
Fuckin' New Guy/Gal?
Fucking New Guy.
So nice to see that our german version of the book hast fourty additional sites,
| QUOTE (Grim) |
| So nice to see that our german version of the book hast fourty additional sites, |
Care to clarify? As far as I know what's been announced is that the German version of Runner Havens will include Seattle, Hong Kong, Cape Town, Caracas, Hamburg and Istanbul. My information -and I should note I have very good sources- is that the only difference between the German and English editions is that Hamburg will get a full blown chapter (like Seattle and HK in the English version) instead of the overview it gets in the US release.
Do they lose any material? Because if not I can't help wondering why they get more material than us?!
Because a) they get to pay more and b) the size of the local market and number of German language buyers demands a fully developed core setting for their backyard. If there was a British license you'd probably be getting Merseysprawl, France might consider adding Marseille, etc.
The first German setting/campaign book Munich Noir is already available and it contains a wealth of material on the city of Munich and a rather twisted local plot featuring a long-time nemesis in the German setting targeting the city's elite. As with all German-only material it is targeted at the local players and includes very little of relevance to the wider SR setting - but maybe one of the German fans can jump in and do a review to bear me out.
The first German setting/campaign book Munich Noir is already available and it contains a wealth of material on the city of Munich and a rather twisted local plot featuring a long-time nemesis in the German setting targeting the city's elite. As with all German-only material it is targeted at the local players and includes very little of relevance to the wider SR setting - but maybe one of the German fans can jump in and do a review to bear me out.
Oooh. Let it be Beloit...
How much for a British License?
All us Brits could have a collection...
All us Brits could have a collection...
| QUOTE (Synner) |
| My information -and I should note I have very good sources- is that the only difference between the German and English editions is that Hamburg will get a full blown chapter (like Seattle and HK in the English version) instead of the overview it gets in the US release. |
According to the Schattenstädte preview available here the TOC of the German version looks like this:
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| 5 - 61 : Hong Kong 62 - 120: Seattle 121 - 168: Hamburg 169 - 180: Cape Town, Caracas, Istanbul 181+ : Game Master infos |
(PS: I think Grim wanted to say "forty additional pages" but fell into a "false friends" translation trap... Eng "site" = Ger "Ort", Ger "Seite" = Eng "page".)
A bit off topic, but when is the GM Screen supposed to be in print?
The hardcopy of the GM's screen will be out soon. It's available as a paid PDF on the main FanPro/SR website.
Yep, sorry for my misspelling. Hamburg is of course a very important city for us german runners. Very gritty, very dark. It`s a shame that the original version won`t have this content.
| QUOTE (Synner @ Jun 30 2006, 03:36 AM) |
| Because a) they get to pay more ... |
*grumble*
I'd pay more.
| QUOTE (Grim @ Jul 4 2006, 01:23 AM) |
| Hamburg is of course a very important city for us german runners. Very gritty, very dark. |
..and the first place in SR having water defy gravity.
I picked it up, I've had time to read a whopping 12 pages. It might be a little early for me to offer any comments positive or negative.
*grumbles*
Good lord, man. You're killing me.
Good lord, man. You're killing me.
| QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) | ||
..and the first place in SR having water defy gravity. |
So it's like a pasty-white version of California?
OK, so when is a PDF version going to be available for purchase?
I wants it, and I wants it now!!!!!
I wants it, and I wants it now!!!!!
The funny is that people from hamburg itself wrote this chapter
| QUOTE (Grim) |
| The funny is that people from hamburg itself wrote this chapter |
Actually this is incorrect. As far as I know LabRat and co. don't live in Hamburg.
Also the English language version does contain the core Hamburg content, it was actually written before the German one was.
The Chapter for Hamburg is from a team called "sons of stoertebeker" and there are from hamburg.
Hamburgers are delicious.
Ich bin ein Berliner! I am a donut!
Ich bin ein Berliner! I am a donut!
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