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hobgoblin
QUOTE (Grinder)
[QUOTE=hobgoblin,Aug 1 2006, 08:04 PM] [QUOTE=Grinder,Aug 1 2006, 07:41 PM] [QUOTE=SL James,Aug 1 2006, 05:54 PM] Ah, there are other, far worse pics. I like the plant image, it reminded me a little of Jeff Laubensteins works. [/QUOTE]
Well, it's okay... (If anything, I'm more concerned with Plant Spirits than the picture). It's just that... Eh. The image I'm referring to is so weirdly proportioned that it may work for a spirit, but otherwise I could probably do without his art (also after scanning his website). [/QUOTE]
Proportions are not so important by spirits. They're magic thus not really bound to physics or shape. Ehr, you know what I mean biggrin.gif [/QUOTE]
heh, i guess that makes lara croft a spirit of "man" silly.gif
[/QUOTE]
Actually more a "phantasy" of a frustrated Nerd. rotfl.gif

Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? silly.gif

heh, i ran into a statue of "the goddess buffy" in anarchy online ones...
SL James
I'm suddenly reminded of some article I read about the deification of Superman.
Dread Polack
I liked most of the artwork in previous editions (mullets aside).

As far as the new art goes, I like the plant spirit. Not sure what everyone's complaining about. I think it's better than the one above it, the "Magical groups" piece. It's a solid piece, but I'm kinda picky about my style of line-art.

The cover is a pretty solid piece too. It doesn't look like something out of my own campaign, and the males are a little "pretty" for my style, but it's a good pic.

I'm really looking forward to the book. I've been playing a bear shaman in my campaign for a couple months now, and I'm particularly interested in some more detail on exactly things like foci are supposed to work. More spells and other options are good, but I think the magic rules could use a little clarification. Some flavor text would be nice too. The magic rules don't talk much about how magic looks, sounds, smells, tastes, and feels, for instance. Also, some guidance on how spirits act and interact with people. These are things I think myself and most players are capable of handling on their own, but some guidance would be nice.

Dread Polack
Samaels Ghost
QUOTE
The magic rules don't talk much about how magic looks, sounds, smells, tastes, and feels, for instance.


Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook.
Dr. Dodge
cover art kinda reminds me of doomtrooper/mutant chronicles
stevebugge
QUOTE (Grinder)
[QUOTE=hobgoblin,Aug 1 2006, 08:04 PM] [QUOTE=Grinder,Aug 1 2006, 07:41 PM] [QUOTE=SL James,Aug 1 2006, 05:54 PM] Ah, there are other, far worse pics. I like the plant image, it reminded me a little of Jeff Laubensteins works. [/QUOTE]
Well, it's okay... (If anything, I'm more concerned with Plant Spirits than the picture). It's just that... Eh. The image I'm referring to is so weirdly proportioned that it may work for a spirit, but otherwise I could probably do without his art (also after scanning his website). [/QUOTE]
Proportions are not so important by spirits. They're magic thus not really bound to physics or shape. Ehr, you know what I mean biggrin.gif [/QUOTE]
heh, i guess that makes lara croft a spirit of "man" silly.gif
[/QUOTE]
Actually more a "phantasy" of a frustrated Nerd. rotfl.gif

Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? silly.gif

Don't forget William Shatner
SL James
QUOTE (Dread Polack)
As far as the new art goes, I like the plant spirit. Not sure what everyone's complaining about. I think it's better than the one above it, the "Magical groups" piece. It's a solid piece, but I'm kinda picky about my style of line-art.

I'm not complaining about the plant spirit picture. I'm complaining about the artists' previous SR contributions and how much I wouldn't like to see that in this or future books when it comes to images of less abstract things like, you know, people.
hobgoblin
QUOTE
Don't forget William Shatner


or maybe chuck norris?
stevebugge
QUOTE (hobgoblin)
QUOTE
Don't forget William Shatner


or maybe chuck norris?

I thought that he ended up being Damien Knight
SL James
Damien Knight doesn't have a beard.

...I don't think.
stevebugge
I can't say I've ever seen a very complete description of Knight, much less a picture.
SL James
He's in Stranger Souls (I think that's the one. Or Clockwork Asylum). Sadly, his capitalist nature prevents him from doing the Right thing and gunning down Ryan Mercury.
Samaels Ghost
Chuck Norris as Damien Knight is more believeable than Fastjack being Knight. Wasn't Knight an officier involved with Echo Mirage?
hobgoblin
QUOTE ("SL James")
Damien Knight doesn't have a beard.

ever heard about shaving?
stevebugge
QUOTE (SL James @ Aug 1 2006, 02:12 PM)
He's in Stranger Souls (I think that's the one. Or Clockwork Asylum). Sadly, his capitalist nature prevents him from doing the Right thing and gunning down Ryan Mercury.

Of course that might be proof Knight isn't actually Chuck Norris or Mary Sue Mercury might have gotten a M-F#*! Round House Kick to the head!


MOST of the references an hints in Canon material actually point to Knight being Maj. David Gavillan, Chuck Norris as Knight is just a much more amusing concept to me.
SL James
Gavilan could have been so badass the USAF would overlook his beard... because he was Chuck Norris.

It's the least they could do considering he led a Delta team to rescue American hostages in Lebanon and then took down a hugely powerful Colombian drug lord, plus ... there is the matter of single-handedly stopping a communist mercenary (Even weirded that Commie Nazis, which kinda sorta exist) invasion of the United States.
Ancient History
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae.
SL James
Oh, now you're just making shit up.
stevebugge
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM)
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae.

pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?

You know we've managed to completely derail this thread, then again I guess there are only so many times it can be said that the Street Magic art looks pretty good.
SL James
Boobies!

Now we've totally derailed this thread.
Brahm
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Aug 1 2006, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM)
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae.

pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?

No, just tiny boils on your neck from ingrown hair caused by people with tightly curly-haired beards shaving too closely. Common among people with African ancestory.
hobgoblin
boobies have a habbit of derailing any thread...
Brahm
But I forgive them, and then give them a hug.
stevebugge
QUOTE (Brahm)
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Aug 1 2006, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM)
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae.

pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?

No, just tiny boils on your neck from ingrown hair caused by people with tightly curly haired beards shaving too closely. Common among people with African ancestory.

So it is actually a real condition then?

I guess I took this post

QUOTE
SL James Posted on Aug 1 2006, 02:33 PM
  Oh, now you're just making shit up. 


a little too literally.
JongWK
EDIT: Er, wrong thread. embarrassed.gif
Grinder
QUOTE (hobgoblin)
QUOTE ("SL James")
Damien Knight doesn't have a beard.

ever heard about shaving?

Chuck Norris would never shave his face! eek.gif
Grinder
QUOTE (stevebugge)
Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? silly.gif [/QUOTE]
Don't forget William Shatner

I was talking about the cool ones. biggrin.gif
Skarn Ka
QUOTE (stevebugge)
I can't say I've ever seen a very complete description of Knight, much less a picture.


Actually, there is a description - although I can't remember how complete it is - in Schockwellen... grinbig.gif
Brahm
I think First Run has a drawing of him, though it isn't particularly well detailed. I think it is Miles Lanier, not Villiers, that has a fairly detailed drawing in SF.
SL James
Nope. It's Villiers watching his beloved Yankees getting their asses handed to them.
Brahm
QUOTE (SL James)
Nope. It's Villiers watching his beloved Yankees getting their asses handed to them.

Is there any offical confirmation of that? I guess he does have a lot of empty shot glasses beside him for being Lanier in that scene, but I assumed it was just a littered bar scene and such.

At first I thought it might be Villiers. But he just struck me as a lot more like Lanier pictured in First Run, and then there was a comment on DSF somewhere too that it was Lanier. But I forget who the author or the exact context of that comment was.
SL James
As far as I could tell, if it was Lanier that would mean Villiers was passed out on the floor. smile.gif
Brahm
QUOTE (SL James)
As far as I could tell, if it was Lanier that would mean Villiers was passed out on the floor. smile.gif

Or sitting at the bar off-picture. I think in the narrative he sits down at the bar to talk to Richard, I'll pull out SF and check again.

P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny. smile.gif
Brahm
Ah, hadn't connected this detail before.

QUOTE
Lanier put his elbow on the bar and stroked his well groomed beard...


The picture is of a bare chinned man. So yup, that's Richard Villers (page 11 of System Failure for those folks who are just joining us).
SL James
QUOTE (Brahm @ Aug 2 2006, 09:33 AM)
P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny. smile.gif

Second baddest-ass mundane. Damien Knight is still his better. Hell, his ex-wife is cooler (to me) than he is.
Brahm
QUOTE (SL James)
QUOTE (Brahm @ Aug 2 2006, 09:33 AM)
P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny. smile.gif

Second baddest-ass mundane. Damien Knight is still his better. Hell, his ex-wife is cooler (to me) than he is.

Just surviving his ex-wife earns him the nod from me. biggrin.gif But I concede the possibility of DK being #1.

I think until we can get them into a room together for a kegger to see which one drops first it is inconclusive. smile.gif
SL James
hahaha. Spot on. I have a special place in my heart for badass women named Samantha.

But, yeah. That would be awesome. Break it down in keg-stands, chugging contests, and ... what the hell... a belching contest as the tie-breaker. I mean, come on. They have to have some class, and beer pong just won't do.
Neverborn
IM pretty excited now
Dread Polack
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook.

Exactly my point. They leave it completely open. Like I said, I am capable of figuring this stuff out on my own, but I think it would be a better book if they at least gave some guidelines/advice on the subject.

Dread Polack
Demonseed Elite
More Street Magic previews, including something I wrote. wink.gif
the_dunner
Table of contents and a preview of the traditions have been posted.
stevebugge
QUOTE (the_dunner)
Table of contents and a preview of the traditions have been posted.

And I have to say it looks pretty good smile.gif
Ophis
yep i have to concur. I'll stop looking now as I'm covering the keyboard with drool...
Ancient History
QUOTE (Ophis)
yep i have to concur. I'll stop looking now as I'm covering the keyboard with drool...

Got to the list of sidebars, did ye? biggrin.gif
Brahm
<moved to the appropriate thread>
Protagonist
Looks pretty sweet!
Synner
QUOTE (Dread Polack @ Aug 2 2006, 06:50 PM)
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook.

Exactly my point. They leave it completely open. Like I said, I am capable of figuring this stuff out on my own, but I think it would be a better book if they at least gave some guidelines/advice on the subject.

I'm not sure it's exactly what you're wishing for but the list of sidebars on the new preview includes "Magical Goods Form and Function" and "Spirit Appearance." I also believe the fiction in Street Magic will also have something to contribute.
Grinder
The previews look very good, I really look forward to "On Location" smile.gif
Rotbart van Dainig
QUOTE (Writing:)
Lars Blumenstein, Rob Boyle, Robert Derie, Robyn King-Nitschke, Jason Levine, Jon Szeto, Peter Taylor, Frank Trollman

Looks like some of Frank's proposals made it - congrats!
Grinder
He was one of the more vocal posters here, right?
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