hobgoblin
Aug 1 2006, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (Grinder) |
[QUOTE=hobgoblin,Aug 1 2006, 08:04 PM] [QUOTE=Grinder,Aug 1 2006, 07:41 PM] [QUOTE=SL James,Aug 1 2006, 05:54 PM] Ah, there are other, far worse pics. I like the plant image, it reminded me a little of Jeff Laubensteins works. [/QUOTE] Well, it's okay... (If anything, I'm more concerned with Plant Spirits than the picture). It's just that... Eh. The image I'm referring to is so weirdly proportioned that it may work for a spirit, but otherwise I could probably do without his art (also after scanning his website). [/QUOTE] Proportions are not so important by spirits. They're magic thus not really bound to physics or shape. Ehr, you know what I mean [/QUOTE] heh, i guess that makes lara croft a spirit of "man"  [/QUOTE] Actually more a "phantasy" of a frustrated Nerd.
Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? |
heh, i ran into a statue of "the goddess buffy" in anarchy online ones...
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 08:43 PM
I'm suddenly reminded of some article I read about the deification of Superman.
Dread Polack
Aug 1 2006, 09:38 PM
I liked most of the artwork in previous editions (mullets aside).
As far as the new art goes, I like the plant spirit. Not sure what everyone's complaining about. I think it's better than the one above it, the "Magical groups" piece. It's a solid piece, but I'm kinda picky about my style of line-art.
The cover is a pretty solid piece too. It doesn't look like something out of my own campaign, and the males are a little "pretty" for my style, but it's a good pic.
I'm really looking forward to the book. I've been playing a bear shaman in my campaign for a couple months now, and I'm particularly interested in some more detail on exactly things like foci are supposed to work. More spells and other options are good, but I think the magic rules could use a little clarification. Some flavor text would be nice too. The magic rules don't talk much about how magic looks, sounds, smells, tastes, and feels, for instance. Also, some guidance on how spirits act and interact with people. These are things I think myself and most players are capable of handling on their own, but some guidance would be nice.
Dread Polack
Samaels Ghost
Aug 1 2006, 09:41 PM
QUOTE |
The magic rules don't talk much about how magic looks, sounds, smells, tastes, and feels, for instance. |
Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook.
Dr. Dodge
Aug 1 2006, 09:44 PM
cover art kinda reminds me of doomtrooper/mutant chronicles
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (Grinder) |
[QUOTE=hobgoblin,Aug 1 2006, 08:04 PM] [QUOTE=Grinder,Aug 1 2006, 07:41 PM] [QUOTE=SL James,Aug 1 2006, 05:54 PM] Ah, there are other, far worse pics. I like the plant image, it reminded me a little of Jeff Laubensteins works. [/QUOTE] Well, it's okay... (If anything, I'm more concerned with Plant Spirits than the picture). It's just that... Eh. The image I'm referring to is so weirdly proportioned that it may work for a spirit, but otherwise I could probably do without his art (also after scanning his website). [/QUOTE] Proportions are not so important by spirits. They're magic thus not really bound to physics or shape. Ehr, you know what I mean [/QUOTE] heh, i guess that makes lara croft a spirit of "man"  [/QUOTE] Actually more a "phantasy" of a frustrated Nerd.
Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? |
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (Dread Polack) |
As far as the new art goes, I like the plant spirit. Not sure what everyone's complaining about. I think it's better than the one above it, the "Magical groups" piece. It's a solid piece, but I'm kinda picky about my style of line-art. |
I'm not complaining about the plant spirit picture. I'm complaining about the artists' previous SR contributions and how much I wouldn't like to see that in this or future books when it comes to images of less abstract things like, you know, people.
hobgoblin
Aug 1 2006, 09:53 PM
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Don't forget William Shatner |
or maybe chuck norris?
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (hobgoblin) |
QUOTE | Don't forget William Shatner |
or maybe chuck norris?
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I thought that he ended up being Damien Knight
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 10:08 PM
Damien Knight doesn't have a beard.
...I don't think.
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 10:10 PM
I can't say I've ever seen a very complete description of Knight, much less a picture.
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 10:12 PM
He's in Stranger Souls (I think that's the one. Or Clockwork Asylum). Sadly, his capitalist nature prevents him from doing the Right thing and gunning down Ryan Mercury.
Samaels Ghost
Aug 1 2006, 10:17 PM
Chuck Norris as Damien Knight is more believeable than Fastjack being Knight. Wasn't Knight an officier involved with Echo Mirage?
hobgoblin
Aug 1 2006, 10:18 PM
QUOTE ("SL James") |
Damien Knight doesn't have a beard. |
ever heard about shaving?
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 10:21 PM
QUOTE (SL James @ Aug 1 2006, 02:12 PM) |
He's in Stranger Souls (I think that's the one. Or Clockwork Asylum). Sadly, his capitalist nature prevents him from doing the Right thing and gunning down Ryan Mercury. |
Of course that might be proof Knight isn't actually Chuck Norris or Mary Sue Mercury might have gotten a M-F#*! Round House Kick to the head!
MOST of the references an hints in Canon material actually point to Knight being Maj. David Gavillan, Chuck Norris as Knight is just a much more amusing concept to me.
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 10:24 PM
Gavilan could have been so badass the USAF would overlook his beard... because he was Chuck Norris.
It's the least they could do considering he led a Delta team to rescue American hostages in Lebanon and then took down a hugely powerful Colombian drug lord, plus ... there is the matter of single-handedly stopping a communist mercenary (Even weirded that Commie Nazis, which kinda sorta exist) invasion of the United States.
Ancient History
Aug 1 2006, 10:32 PM
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae.
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 10:33 PM
Oh, now you're just making shit up.
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM) |
You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae. |
pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?
You know we've managed to completely derail this thread, then again I guess there are only so many times it can be said that the Street Magic art looks pretty good.
SL James
Aug 1 2006, 10:39 PM
Boobies!
Now we've totally derailed this thread.
Brahm
Aug 1 2006, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Aug 1 2006, 05:35 PM) |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM) | You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae. |
pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?
|
No, just tiny boils on your neck
from ingrown hair caused by people with tightly curly-haired beards shaving too closely. Common among people with African ancestory.
hobgoblin
Aug 1 2006, 10:44 PM
boobies have a habbit of derailing any thread...
Brahm
Aug 1 2006, 10:47 PM
But I forgive them, and then give them a hug.
stevebugge
Aug 1 2006, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (Brahm) |
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Aug 1 2006, 05:35 PM) | QUOTE (Ancient History @ Aug 1 2006, 02:32 PM) | You miss the obvious: David Gavilan was an African-Canadamerican. He received a dispensation from shaving his beard because he suffered from pseudofolliculitis barbae. |
pseudofolliculitis barbae. Isn't that a condition where you grown Cthulu like tentacles from your chin?
|
No, just tiny boils on your neck from ingrown hair caused by people with tightly curly haired beards shaving too closely. Common among people with African ancestory. |
So it is actually a real condition then?
I guess I took this post
QUOTE |
SL James Posted on Aug 1 2006, 02:33 PM Oh, now you're just making shit up.
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a little too literally.
JongWK
Aug 1 2006, 10:52 PM
EDIT: Er, wrong thread.
Grinder
Aug 1 2006, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (hobgoblin) |
QUOTE ("SL James") | Damien Knight doesn't have a beard. |
ever heard about shaving?
|
Chuck Norris would never shave his face!
Grinder
Aug 1 2006, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (stevebugge) |
Hm, after Elvis, Drop Bears and Knight Rider, could there be a Lara Croft Totem? [/QUOTE] Don't forget William Shatner |
I was talking about the cool ones.
Skarn Ka
Aug 2 2006, 08:28 AM
QUOTE (stevebugge) |
I can't say I've ever seen a very complete description of Knight, much less a picture. |
Actually, there is a description - although I can't remember how complete it is - in Schockwellen...
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 01:29 PM
I think First Run has a drawing of him, though it isn't particularly well detailed. I think it is Miles Lanier, not Villiers, that has a fairly detailed drawing in SF.
SL James
Aug 2 2006, 02:07 PM
Nope. It's Villiers watching his beloved Yankees getting their asses handed to them.
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (SL James) |
Nope. It's Villiers watching his beloved Yankees getting their asses handed to them. |
Is there any offical confirmation of that? I guess he does have a lot of empty shot glasses beside him for being Lanier in that scene, but I assumed it was just a littered bar scene and such.
At first I thought it might be Villiers. But he just struck me as a lot more like Lanier pictured in First Run, and then there was a comment on DSF somewhere too that it was Lanier. But I forget who the author or the exact context of that comment was.
SL James
Aug 2 2006, 03:23 PM
As far as I could tell, if it was Lanier that would mean Villiers was passed out on the floor.
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (SL James) |
As far as I could tell, if it was Lanier that would mean Villiers was passed out on the floor. |
Or sitting at the bar off-picture. I think in the narrative he sits down at the bar to talk to Richard, I'll pull out SF and check again.
P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny.
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 03:38 PM
Ah, hadn't connected this detail before.
QUOTE |
Lanier put his elbow on the bar and stroked his well groomed beard... |
The picture is of a bare chinned man. So yup, that's Richard Villers (page 11 of System Failure for those folks who are just joining us).
SL James
Aug 2 2006, 03:45 PM
QUOTE (Brahm @ Aug 2 2006, 09:33 AM) |
P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny. |
Second baddest-ass mundane. Damien Knight is still his better. Hell, his ex-wife is cooler (to me) than he is.
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (SL James) |
QUOTE (Brahm @ Aug 2 2006, 09:33 AM) | P.S. The idea of Villiers, baddest ass mundane in the world, passed out on the floor in a puddle of his own vomit is pretty funny. |
Second baddest-ass mundane. Damien Knight is still his better. Hell, his ex-wife is cooler (to me) than he is.
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Just
surviving his ex-wife earns him the nod from me.

But I concede the possibility of DK being #1.
I think until we can get them into a room together for a kegger to see which one drops first it is inconclusive.
SL James
Aug 2 2006, 03:58 PM
hahaha. Spot on. I have a special place in my heart for badass women named Samantha.
But, yeah. That would be awesome. Break it down in keg-stands, chugging contests, and ... what the hell... a belching contest as the tie-breaker. I mean, come on. They have to have some class, and beer pong just won't do.
Neverborn
Aug 2 2006, 05:01 PM
IM pretty excited now
Dread Polack
Aug 2 2006, 06:50 PM
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost) |
Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook. |
Exactly my point. They leave it completely open. Like I said, I am capable of figuring this stuff out on my own, but I think it would be a better book if they at least gave some guidelines/advice on the subject.
Dread Polack
Demonseed Elite
Aug 2 2006, 09:52 PM
More Street Magic previews, including something I wrote.
the_dunner
Aug 2 2006, 09:52 PM
Table of contents and a preview of the traditions have been posted.
stevebugge
Aug 2 2006, 10:35 PM
QUOTE (the_dunner) |
Table of contents and a preview of the traditions have been posted. |
And I have to say it looks pretty good
Ophis
Aug 2 2006, 11:06 PM
yep i have to concur. I'll stop looking now as I'm covering the keyboard with drool...
Ancient History
Aug 2 2006, 11:10 PM
QUOTE (Ophis) |
yep i have to concur. I'll stop looking now as I'm covering the keyboard with drool... |
Got to the list of sidebars, did ye?
Brahm
Aug 2 2006, 11:10 PM
<moved to the appropriate thread>
Protagonist
Aug 2 2006, 11:52 PM
Looks pretty sweet!
Synner
Aug 3 2006, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (Dread Polack @ Aug 2 2006, 06:50 PM) |
QUOTE (Samaels Ghost) | Doesn't it say that appearance depends on your tradition or outlook. |
Exactly my point. They leave it completely open. Like I said, I am capable of figuring this stuff out on my own, but I think it would be a better book if they at least gave some guidelines/advice on the subject.
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I'm not sure it's exactly what you're wishing for but the list of sidebars on the new
preview includes "Magical Goods Form and Function" and "Spirit Appearance." I also believe the fiction in
Street Magic will also have something to contribute.
Grinder
Aug 3 2006, 10:39 AM
The previews look very good, I really look forward to "On Location"
Rotbart van Dainig
Aug 3 2006, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (Writing:) |
Lars Blumenstein, Rob Boyle, Robert Derie, Robyn King-Nitschke, Jason Levine, Jon Szeto, Peter Taylor, Frank Trollman |
Looks like some of Frank's proposals made it - congrats!
Grinder
Aug 3 2006, 11:34 AM
He was one of the more vocal posters here, right?
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