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MK Ultra
Hope you get better, soon! It´s a nightmare to keep the authorities guessing what one´s face looks like wink.gif
Everybody (including myself) saying Symbiotes are not worth the money and Essence are not thinking in character nyahnyah.gif

EDIT: So, DireRadiant, you think they botched it and made him suffer from the Jack-Itch negative quality?
DireRadiant
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
EDIT: So, DireRadiant, you think they botched it and made him suffer from the Jack-Itch negative quality?

My opinion of the clinics in Chiba has taken a hit. I had thought they were the best delta clinics around.
MK Ultra
You are soooooo pre-crash ;p
adamu
QUOTE (BlackHat)


Did think of something else though. if it is hard for him to speak, there isn't really any reason he needs to - Fortunato could read his mind and answer for him. Adam isn't about to suggest it, but if he has trouble speaking, that might be how we have to solve it.

I think this is a great idea - the thing is, you guys have made the rolls, made some strong choices, and done plenty of RP. I am ready to give you a resolution on the whole interrogation, etc.
But you each have quite a string of questions, and for this guy speaking is excruciating pain - there is no way he is going to spit out coherent responses in the time frame you are working with.

So here is the deal - you guys IC something where you pitch him on questions which he should just think the answers to clearly in his head, and once you do I can give you whatever answers he gives (not saying they are true or correct, although the Mind Probe and pragma's skill will offer insight there). You'll need to make sure he gets to SPEAK with his wife at some point, or it won't work. Fort has enough successes to know the right timing, so whatever you IC it as will be fine.

As for the forgive and forget thing (and I don't know whether you guys want to pitch that first or second, up to you all), Smith (should I keep calling him that? is that his street name? what should I use when writing 3rd person omniscient?) got good enough rolls to convince him to at least sort of believe he has a way to live, convinced enough he'll play along. So when you are ready to do this you can handle his responses to your pitch with the mind probe.

Let's just try to do one thing at a time (interrogation / forgiveness pitch). Just kick off one or the other with as far as you can get IC.

The hospital staff will not willingly let you take the elf. They are basically waiting for you all to leave so they can have their way with him.

Okay, that pretty much occupies Fort and Smith for the rest of this five-minute block.
Sledge is up to her elbows in her own project for the duration.
Angel is committed to chilling in the van for the rest of the time.

Just need to know how Cerberus and Rocky are spending the next couple or three minutes....

BlackHat
As for the streetname. The way I have been treating it (mostly) is:

"Adam" when Adam is himself (away from work, at school, thinking about things like a human being, recalling something about his past, etc)

"Smith" when writing about Adam as a negotiator type (mobster, criminal-for-hire, thinking about Louie or his commitments to the mob on this job, his driving need for fast cash, etc)

by various aliases when he is taking up such a guise, as part of a job (IC example would be when he was pretending to be the Japanese replacement guard)

and "Johnson" when writing about Adam as a Johnson, which is his "guise" on this particular job (spending his employeers money to hire shadowrunners, getting this particular job done, etc)

Course, that might be a lot of aliases for you to juggle depending on the context of the third-person-omniscient post - so either Smith or Johnson is probably fine. Currently, at this moment on this particular mission, Smith is the Johnson, but I figure that could change down the road (especially if we do freelance stuff while Franco doesn't have work for us). In that case, if the real Johnson starts calling himself Johnson, Smith will probably have to go back to having people refer to him as Smith. But, if they want to hire the team, and would like to keep their identities a secret, even from the team (which Adam can understand), he'd be mroe than happy to hear their pitch, and approach the team as Johnson once again.
BlackHat
Will IC from work in a bit. wink.gif
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
As for the streetname. The way I have been treating it (mostly) is:

Sugar Lips!

This could turn into a long running forum game, Street Name that character!
BlackHat
Does anyone know how long stim-patches last?
DireRadiant
Stimulant Patch: This patch allows a user to ignore
the injury modifiers of Stun damage; treat it as High Pain
Tolerance (p. 78) equal to patch’s rating. This effect lasts for
rating x 10 minutes—after that period of time, she receives
one additional point of Stun damage. While a stimulant
patch is in effect, the character is unable to rest.
BlackHat
Just making sure the guy would stay awake long enough to answer everything and still get his call. It sound like he'll be awake for ~20-30 minutes, and thats plenty of time. He'll be useless to us in this condition, but assuming there is room in the van, I say we help him out of here.
JDragon
Rocky, will continue to hang just inside the front door keeping an eye out for anymore visitors.

If any one needs help with anything he'll help out best he can.

JD

PS. Glad to see your back Adamu
Abbandon
Welcome back and happy healing.

Cerberus is just floating around waiting to get word that they are leaving. I guess theoretically he will follow rocky. I imagine Rocky and Cerberus would start trading stories about getting ambushed at home. But we dont have to IC that or anything.


adamu
QUOTE (Abbandon)
I imagine Rocky and Cerberus would start trading stories about getting ambushed at home. But we dont have to IC that or anything.

No, you certainly don't...but you are certainly free and welcome to....


BlackHat and pragma - Sorry - long work day - answers to interrogation tomorrow.
adamu
Okay - have been really torn on how to give you the answers to the interrogation thing.
Had decided on a really cool IC post from Fort's POV in which his ears hear Smith's insistent questioning and at the same time I describe in very visceral, image-filled terms the first thoughts that pop into Crew-Cut's head - back and forth, back and forth (don't worry - I would have made sure you got what info could be gotten - not a device to rip you off of the info you've earned). And then into Fort's own questioning.

But after I hit "add reply" and my fingers were poised on the keyboard, I realized I'd be putting way too many words in PC mouths and thoughts in PC heads, something I have to really hold myself back from sometimes!

So I am going to give it to you OOC after all.

But please, you don't have to repeat it all back IC, but at least some sort of quick summation of the info gained, the experience, etc.
Lately, I have been handing out a lof of info OOC in different stories that just isn't finding its way into the IC storyline, leaving big gaps. Sorry about the anality - again to stress - I am NOT asking that it all be recited back - just a few IC words indicating the gist of what was obtained, and showing that Fort somehow relays it all to Smith.

Maybe pragma could cover that, and then BH could do an IC post of the "pitch" to the guy to let him live...

Okay - questions -

Asked who they were hired to kill, several still images of Cerberus pop into his head. Immediately pressed on whether there were other targets, thoughts of a large bounty on "the other troll" and the "pink-haired elf girl" flash across the greed centers of the guy's brain. Images of all three targets are peppered with an awareness that they are all organized crime "players."

Asked about Louie's whereabouts, the guy thinks of an AR meeting with Louie and Angelo (the face of the guy from the drone video feed talking to the Bigio face in the limo). No idea where they might be.
Asked about payment - professional pride at knowledge that he's graduated from back-alley meets with treacherous Johnsons - Y100,000 is in escrow with a neutral fixer (name: Tuttle) in Denver. Confirmation of kill to be made by agents sent by Tuttle, details TBA.

Now the tough part - Everything about BurnsHouses. Thing is, the guy apparently has known and worked with Birnhauser for a long time, several years at least. They are runner compadres. In response to your questions, surface thoughts include manly warrior-brother type affection, some fear, appreciation of power.

Note also, that whereas he wasn't even trying to hold back with the other stuff, he tries now - but Fort's skill is enough to keep pulling the desired info up to the surface enough for you to get what you immediately want.
Thing is, there is just so much from years of knowing the guy.
But you definitely can get an address in Auburn, along with knowledge that there are booby traps, but he doesn't know what.
You get that Crew-Cut (street name and self-identifier: Rosso) and Eightball (now deceased rigger) were probably Burns' best friends. That Burns also had numerous shadow connections throughout N. America (including being on very good terms with the good Dr. Cline that just patched Fort up). That he did not work exclusively with Rosso and Eightball - they occasionally hired on specialists, and Burns as a mage was also busy hiring himself out to others as a specialist. That his current girlfriend is named Samantha. You get a mental image of a human woman with a blond bob - Rosso has a lot of vivid memories of a buxom, athletic body and friendly attitude, but he knows nothing else about her.

At that point it is approaching the five minute mark.
I am open to follow up questions on details of the info you got, and naturally if you stay with the guy and he lives, there may be opportunity for other questioning.
DireRadiant
Odds on Crew Cut and Fortunato becoming bosom buds... kinda low. No matter how much Adam Sugar lips Smith Johnson works at it.
BlackHat
MUCH better than if Rosso had died and Burnshouses was the one being interrogated.
Pretty much no chance of them working together.
BlackHat
I'll let Pragma post first about how he wants to get the information to Johnson mid-interrogation. Personally, I'd be okay even if Johnson wasn't getting the answers yet and we went over them later. Its not like knowing any of that is going to teleport us out of this building. biggrin.gif Might be good to get any reaction from Fort about the sudden extra baggage we mgiht have...

Then I'll post something about the job offer again (I'm assuming he is willing to play along)... and we can move on to the part where we desperately try to escape before the hammer comes down.
Konsaki
Aren't you two psychopaths done torturing that poor murderer yet? nyahnyah.gif
pragma
I've got a big post brewing and will probably throw it up tomorrow or late tonight.

QUOTE (DR)
Odds on Crew Cut and Fortunato becoming bosom buds... kinda low. No matter how much Adam Sugar lips Smith Johnson works at it.


True.

QUOTE (BH)
MUCH better than if Rosso had died and Burnshouses was the one being interrogated.  Pretty much no chance of them working together.


VERY true. Fort probably would have killed Burns on the spot, the only thing holding him back from doing so would be his desire to torture the guy to death. Neither of which would have improved his employability. So as much as he as a character is unhappy about that, I'm pretty pleased how it worked out as a player.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (pragma)
I've got a big post brewing and will probably throw it up tomorrow or late tonight.

Need more time to digest?
pragma
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (pragma)
I've got a big post brewing and will probably throw it up tomorrow or late tonight.

Need more time to digest?

My delicate stomach has trouble with these difficult interactions ...
adamu
Cool post pragma.

So that means BlackHat is up with his pitch. Best keep it snappy - the doctor and his people are obviously getting ants in their pants (although no actual physically threatening posture is being taken by any of them).

Now, from the sound of things, it seems as though you guys are planning on acquiescing with the doc's demand that you clear out in the stated five minutes. If that is indeed what you are going to do, it's time for people to start posting that way - if you are going to the vehicles or anything else, now is the time to IC that - DireRadiant has already started in that direction.
DireRadiant
Now if only we had a plan of some kind....
BlackHat
Well, I actually already threw out the pitch in a previous post, but I will maybe repost it and take the reigns a little bit and suggest that Rosso is willing to take his chances with us. biggrin.gif

As for the vehicles, I have a little bit of a plan, but she ain't much - and I don't think anyone will like it. Might post as much IC.
DireRadiant
The point the drone's LMG at the limo plan?

It's not that I don't have ideas, nor that Sledge hasn't got ideas, it's just that IC the team doesn't have a plan all together as a team.

And we had at least 5 minutes... smile.gif
Konsaki
This is the 'teams' first mission and not all of us are true runner types. Growing pains.
adamu
And I think it is great how everyone is role-playing that so well.

That said, if you are so inclined, OOC discussion of planning is not totally frowned upon - although a quick and dirty plan seems more in keeping with the IC situation....

Whatever - all on you guys for the moment.
BlackHat
Posted. Johnson's isn't hoping to cause everyone to stop and debate (if that happens, he'll probably insist we move, even without a great plan)... but if anyone has any other ideas, or wants to take a chance on the alternate plan, now's the time to say so. biggrin.gif
DireRadiant
I think our five minutes are up at 8:10:35 according to the countdown sledge was given?
adamu
Yeah, you are definitely a bit over - but like I said, the doc and his nurses don't really have any way (that you can see) to physically eject you. They seem pleased that you all appear to be on your way out fairly quickly.

BlackHat - just right on Rosso. I will let pragma or anyone else know if they perceive him getting up to anything hinky. Otherwise, just IC his zombie-like ass around where you like - he is REALLY out of it...
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Johnson's isn't hoping to cause everyone to stop and debate

I've noticed the rest of the team is somewhat laconic, so no worries there.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
Yeah, you are definitely a bit over - but like I said, the doc and his nurses don't really have any way (that you can see) to physically eject you. They seem pleased that you all appear to be on your way out fairly quickly.

Ok, even if no one else is sticking to the countdown, Sledge would, safety habit. Which would imply she would be out the elevator and on her bike a while before Adam Sugar Lips Johnson Smith says his piece.

Not a super big deal generally, but I do need to know if Pragma wants Fortunato on the bike or stuffed into the van with a pair of trolls, a waifish elf chick and sugar lips.
Konsaki
I'm writing up a post for Caittie covering the past 2-3 minutes of time. It's going to boil down to her being mostly out of it, just like the Crewcut guy, only she doesnt have two men badgering her to keep her fully awake.
The back door to the van is still open though and the drone is continuing with it's last commands of rotation and stopping to look at the limo.
BlackHat
QUOTE (adamu)
Yeah, you are definitely a bit over - but like I said, the doc and his nurses don't really have any way (that you can see) to physically eject you. They seem pleased that you all appear to be on your way out fairly quickly.

Yeah, I hoped it wouldn't take that long... but Johnson is a bit long-winded. wink.gif
Abbandon
I wasnt being lazy i was just staying out of the way of the main characters right now. I didnt wanna clutter up the IC with cerberus picking his nose waiting for the timer to run down hehe.
Konsaki
@Abbandon
Edit out your line about Caittie glaring at Cerberus. She is currently half asleep leaning her head against the wall of the van, though she seems vaguely aware that someone else is in the van with her now.
Abbandon
Done. I just wanted to acknowledge that Cerberus had seen some of her glances.
Konsaki
Cool, thanks.
adamu
Okay, things moving along more or less smoothly - Angel and Cerb in the van (Abbandon, can you add Kyle to your IC post? I think he's sticking with, unless you have some other idea...).
Sledge on the bike, I think. With?????
Two plans suggested by Smith. Looks like you guys are leaning toward making the break for it with all the vehicles?

That's the info I have.

This scene has dragged on for a while now.
So I may or may not be back online in a few hours, but that doesn't matter.

What does matter is that when I get online on MY Monday morning, I am going to IC a departure from the clinic - if one isn't already up.

So anyone that doesn't want to leave, or doesn't want to go with the plan as led by Smith/Sledge, chime in by then.

Of course, if you guys get IC-departed before I am online next, then things will just move that much faster.

Not trying to be pushy - have appreciated everyone's regular posting - but not going to let us get caught in one of these group-indecision-paralysis quagmires.
pragma
Spell defense is going to be assigned to the van and every friendly fort can see by default until we're clear of the area. He's going to be distracted IC as a result, but I don't want to get jumped by a powerball.

Perceiving and looking around, let me know if I need a test. Included assensing and perception just in case:

Int + perception - 2 wounds + 3 actively searching: # dice: 8 :: 5 5 6 1 4 4 5 4 -- 4 successes

Int + assensing -2 wounds: # dice: 6 :: 2 4 2 5 2 2 -- 1 success
Konsaki
@Pragma

I think you goofed up on your time hack. 15 minutes to get from the entrance of the building to the van is a little much, especially since we are on a time crunch. I'm pretty sure Johnson/Rocky would help you some.
adamu
pragma - your spell defense and alert status noted.

JDragon - on Rocky's reply to Fort - I'll admit I don't have time to backtrack through the thread and see where you got which boxes of damage and what got healed when - I'll trust you to figure it out. But the thing to remember is, Fort can't heal you past the point you were wounded after the last time he healed you. Which is to say, if you had X boxes of damage left after the last time he healed you, and you are at or below that level now, he can't help you.

I honestly can't remember your wound status, so it's on you.

IC-wise - obviously Rocky wouldn't know about all this. Just let us know OOC what's up, and then if Fort goes through the motions of another heal spell that can't possibly work, we'll make it drain-free (pure fluff).

So overall I just need confirmation that Rocky is going in the van and what Smith is doing (driving the van?).

Also, someone be thinking about OOCing me with as much detail as you can about exactly what y'all are doing once you are all mounted up.
pragma
QUOTE (Konsaki)
@Pragma

I think you goofed up on your time hack. 15 minutes to get from the entrance of the building to the van is a little much, especially since we are on a time crunch. I'm pretty sure Johnson/Rocky would help you some.

Whoops, taken care of.
Abbandon
I added Kyle, Konsaki may want to back edit Caittie's post to a little.

@pragma Are you reluctant to heal cerberus because of the -5 modifier due to his cyber?? I guess it is hard to heal him magically lol. I was like what the hell is so difficult!! Heal me!! Im almost dead and you keep worrying about whether Rocky has a paper cut. I guess I will have to be patient.

Maybe Caittie can heal me since im more machine than man hehehe.
BlackHat
AFAIK, the plan is that everyone except Sledge will be in the van (trogs only fit into the van, Cattie is almost passed out, Kyle rides with Cerberus, Fort stays with Rosso, and we want Rosso in the van). That's actually a lot of people (considering the trogs size) and so, if they don't all fit, we might want someone to ride in Sledge's side-cart, or even riding on the back. Also, there is something to be said for splitting the enemies attention up - and I think if Sledge is riding solo, she would be a very small target (considering the people they are after are assumed to be in the van).

Anyways, after the seating is all set, I think the plan is basically to gun it. Johnson will drive (idealy, using his trodes, to go VR, and use his command program to drive the thing like a videogame). I expect the ride to be pretty reckless. Especially if he detaches himself from the situation, and see it more like driving a car around in GTA6 or something. His idea will probably be to take a bunch of chances and hope his luck holds out longer than his persuers. I could see it happen like a lot of movie car chase scenes - driving through red lights, whipping around corners, going the wrong way down the street, or driving on the sidewalk... whatever, its not like its my van.

if we can manage to lose everyone (or think we did), we can drop Rosso off at his wife's house (or some safehouse or street clinic of his or soemthing if he'd rather) . Actually, if he has a different black clinic he frequents that might be great, because we sort of need a second chance at getting patched up and making friends with a street doc.

Anwyays, after that, we COULD blitz Franco's resturant and hope to catch him there... but most of us are barely conscous, or we could rest off some of our stun damage, and do our best to heal the physical damage and blitz it in a few hours (by then, all those cars might be back, and more goons would be waiting for Franco's next order).

What would be great would be if while all those goons are roaming the streets looking for us, we circle around and take out the boss - since at the moment, we don't think they know that that is our goal. (They just assume Rocky, Cerb, and Angel are trying to get away or something).

As for the bike, Sledge could probably get away - but I don't think that really helps the mission at all. What might be great would be if she went ahead of the van and maybe sent directions, gave us traffic updates, what have you - information the mobsters following us probably wont have. Angel could cause a ruckus with that drone - probably even snipe Angelo if he goes to get back in his limo (but Johnson won't suggest it, since taking out any other important mobsters wasn't part of his orders). Course, that makes the drone sort of a large target, and woudl draw a LOT more attention to the chase. She could also probably hack the local Grid systems and change traffic in our favor, etc.

Someone could ride shotgun (literally) on either vehicle and take shots at them as we drive, since they will certainly be shooting at us.

Again, I am imagining sort of a violent car chase. The reality is, we're going to be driving through a not-totally-awful part of the city at a little after 8 (while everyone is on their way to work)... so traffic will be bad, and we probably can't be too open with violence. (if they shoot first, we might as well shoot back). Otherwise, I expect even the mob will try to avoid gunning down a van in plain sight of the public... so we really just need to drive away and lose them in traffic.

*shrugs* that's my OOC thoughts on the plan.
JDragon
Sorry, been a little out of it the last few days.

Rocky will wait till everyone loads up and follow the crowd, loading into the van as the group is ready to leave.

As for healing I'll take a look, and get some info up. I think all he will be able to heal is the damage from the gun fight and carry over from the spell.

Edit - Update..

Did a quick scan, Rocky was down 1P after the first healing before the clinic. Took 3p from getting shot twice and 1p overflow from the spell. So that leaves 4p that can be healed by Fort.

JD
JDragon
Having caught up finally, As Rocky said he's not at a 100% but doing well enough to be ok for a little while.

Plus hes used to being beat and is still feeling at least some of the effects of the pain pills. (even if the in game effects are gone)

But as soon as we get away getting some of the recent damage healed will not be a bad thing.


BTW
Next weekend, 16th - 19th I'll be at a local gaming convention and will have very limited time & internet access if any. Should be able to get back to the game on tuesday night the 20th. I'll be around and posting till Thursday night or Friday morning.

JD
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Also, there is something to be said for splitting the enemies attention up - and I think if Sledge is riding solo, she would be a very small target (considering the people they are after are assumed to be in the van).

This is assuming Fishbreathe's goons even know Sledge is part of the trog elf menage a trois.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
As for the bike, Sledge could probably get away - but I don't think that really helps the mission at all. What might be great would be if she went ahead of the van and maybe sent directions, gave us traffic updates, what have you - information the mobsters following us probably wont have. Angel could cause a ruckus with that drone - probably even snipe Angelo if he goes to get back in his limo (but Johnson won't suggest it, since taking out any other important mobsters wasn't part of his orders). Course, that makes the drone sort of a large target, and woudl draw a LOT more attention to the chase. She could also probably hack the local Grid systems and change traffic in our favor, etc.

The team has a lot more capabilities for this then sending Sledge out ahead...
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
As for the bike, Sledge could probably get away - but I don't think that really helps the mission at all.

That's what you think.

I think Sledge being alive increases the chances of Fishbreath dying soon tremendously.
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