Sledge
Combat turn 4
IP 1
Sledge will roar loudly and beat her chest ala Queen of the Jungle! And point to the door.
Intimidation 4 + Cha 3 + Edge 4 = 11 (Opposed by Intiimidation + Wil)
4 = hits 1 2 5 3 6 4 1 1 5 1 1 5
Standard Parry
Rea 6 + Hammer 6 = 12
1 hit = 2 1 2 5 1 4 2 3 1 2 2 4
Body 6 (Impact armor 6)
2 hit = 3 3 5 2 2 5
IP 2
Assuming idiot ape doesn't leave... and Sledge is still on her feet. Time to apply modern technology!
Taser, as club 8S(e)
Agi 5 + Clubs 4 - Off Hand 2 = 7
4 hits (Wow) = 1 6 4 4 5 6 5
Standard Parry
Rea 6 + Hammer 6 = 12
2 hits = 1 6 4 4 4 5 1 3 3 3 1 3
Body 6 (Impact armor 6)
2 hits = 2 5 2 6 1 4
If we get to combat turn 5 with this ape... it's Hammer time!
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Adamu
I'll be trying to get an IC post up today for the first combat turn or so.
But don't let that stop you from posting as well.
I'll be trying to get an IC post up today for the first combat turn or so.
But don't let that stop you from posting as well.
BlackHat
Umm, I guess you'll need an initiative roll.
Umm, I guess you'll need an initiative roll.
I rolled earlier and got an 8. Since I only had one IP, I said I was going to do nothing until someone got attacked. If you want me to reroll I can, though.
To clarify, since I am in AR my initiative doesn't change. I assume we're in the 2nd IP for the 1st round of combat? or is it a new round and I should reroll...
Probably of note is the fact that I have been using "Mr. Smith's" shitty metalink with "Edit" as the only program running.
For the third or fourth time, I need to remember to swap commlinks between "Smith" and "Adam" after this mission (or, perhaps after my metalink gets dumped from the network).
There isn't much I can do with an edit program in combat, so I guess this is as good a time as any to ask how you rule the defaulting rules for matrix actions... can one attempt to attack (or encrypt, or databomb, or whatever) without the program by defaulting to logic -1? or would it be computer/hacking -1 since hte program replaces the attribute in this silly subsystem?
Or can it not be done at all, and you just can't attack without an attack program running on your com?
Probably of note is the fact that I have been using "Mr. Smith's" shitty metalink with "Edit" as the only program running.
For the third or fourth time, I need to remember to swap commlinks between "Smith" and "Adam" after this mission (or, perhaps after my metalink gets dumped from the network). There isn't much I can do with an edit program in combat, so I guess this is as good a time as any to ask how you rule the defaulting rules for matrix actions... can one attempt to attack (or encrypt, or databomb, or whatever) without the program by defaulting to logic -1? or would it be computer/hacking -1 since hte program replaces the attribute in this silly subsystem?
Or can it not be done at all, and you just can't attack without an attack program running on your com?
DireRadiant
Dude, I sure as hell didn't expect that!
To speed things up, have rolled some dice for you -
You didn't give me an initiative, so I rolled it and the ape won.
He scored mucho hits.
I fail to see why, with Impact of 6 and Body of 6 you rolled 6 dice instead of 12. So I rolled 6 for you, and you also got mucho hits. But that is a strong monkey, and you take 3 boxes stun.
Then, what can I say? Your intimidation works. Fortune favors the bold. He growls, backs off, and turns to follow his buddies.
Go ahead and IC if you want.
Dude, I sure as hell didn't expect that!
To speed things up, have rolled some dice for you -
You didn't give me an initiative, so I rolled it and the ape won.
He scored mucho hits.
I fail to see why, with Impact of 6 and Body of 6 you rolled 6 dice instead of 12. So I rolled 6 for you, and you also got mucho hits. But that is a strong monkey, and you take 3 boxes stun.
Then, what can I say? Your intimidation works. Fortune favors the bold. He growls, backs off, and turns to follow his buddies.
Go ahead and IC if you want.
@BlackHat
Heh, you are helping the fight by just being there though. Taking one off the hacker is cool, and all you have to do is reboot your commlink to be at full health. Rebooting should only take a few turns too.
The problem is that you wont be able to talk to Sledge or Cal during the reboot.
Heh, you are helping the fight by just being there though. Taking one off the hacker is cool, and all you have to do is reboot your commlink to be at full health. Rebooting should only take a few turns too.
The problem is that you wont be able to talk to Sledge or Cal during the reboot.
BlackHat
Sorry, you can keep the 8. I hadn't noticed it much since I didn't expect you to get into combat.
Your first IP of your first combat turn began when I asked for initiative. I'll get you in sync with Sledge if it starts to matter.
Reviewing the rules, you would use your cybercombat skill (or Logic -1 if you don't have that skill, since it is defaultable) + your program rating, which is 0. Of course, the damage of your attack is your program rating, so without a program you would start at 0, but net successes could count as damage.
Sorry, you can keep the 8. I hadn't noticed it much since I didn't expect you to get into combat.
Your first IP of your first combat turn began when I asked for initiative. I'll get you in sync with Sledge if it starts to matter.
Reviewing the rules, you would use your cybercombat skill (or Logic -1 if you don't have that skill, since it is defaultable) + your program rating, which is 0. Of course, the damage of your attack is your program rating, so without a program you would start at 0, but net successes could count as damage.
I dont think that Cybercombat is a defaultable skill, or else you would just have hackers with 6Log defaulting all the time and just saying 'foo on buying skills'.
Believe me, my matrix rules are so weak I check the RAW before making a single keystroke of GM ruling. Check it yourself. Defaultable.
No BBB here, so I'll take your word on it, you being GM and all.
Yeah, that was the reason I have asked. By RAW, you can default to cybercombat, and I think even hacking and computers (which usually require programs)... but the book never explains exactly how that is done... and people have postulated that a high-logic character can kick a pretty good amount of ass online through sheer-will.. .especially considering that in my case, I am using a metalink, and any programs I MIGHT have running would only be running at rating 1, anyways.
of course, the way adamu ruled it, Its JUST cybercombat... so no logic involved. Your hackers can say foo on buying programs, but they NEED skill then, and having a high logic won't help them overcome anything.
In any case, if adamu changes his mind about the ruling anytime, I'll let it go, but for the time being, to keep things rolling, I think I am going to cybercombat it up.
Edit: previous post SPOILERED, to keep from clogging up the board - its irrelivent. See next post.
of course, the way adamu ruled it, Its JUST cybercombat... so no logic involved. Your hackers can say foo on buying programs, but they NEED skill then, and having a high logic won't help them overcome anything.
In any case, if adamu changes his mind about the ruling anytime, I'll let it go, but for the time being, to keep things rolling, I think I am going to cybercombat it up.
Edit: previous post SPOILERED, to keep from clogging up the board - its irrelivent. See next post.
[ Spoiler ]
Been thinking about this... and I think I was totally going in the wrong direction with the defaulting rules.
Think about it... if cybercombat says "defaultable" that means you can default on cybercombat if you have no SKILL... not no PROGRAM.
So, if you ahd an attack 5 program, I imagine you could make a feeble attack with it at rating 4 (program rating -1 for defaulting)... but after more thought, I don't see any reason why you should be able to take an attack action without an attack program running.
So, to clear up my previous aciton. IF, as admin, I can command them from whatever prompt I have available to me (like, turn the server off of alert status) I will. OTHERWISE, I'll use a simple action to unload Edit (after sending the message to Sledge), and do nothing for my remaining simple action (since I have no program running I can't very well do anything at all on the matrix).
Unless someone else can point me to something in the BBB saying you can do things in the matrix without programs (without being a TM). I was fairly certain there was some debate over this in the past, but after some thought, I think it was just debate over what you default to (attribute or program rating) when you lack a skill.
Think about it... if cybercombat says "defaultable" that means you can default on cybercombat if you have no SKILL... not no PROGRAM.
So, if you ahd an attack 5 program, I imagine you could make a feeble attack with it at rating 4 (program rating -1 for defaulting)... but after more thought, I don't see any reason why you should be able to take an attack action without an attack program running.
So, to clear up my previous aciton. IF, as admin, I can command them from whatever prompt I have available to me (like, turn the server off of alert status) I will. OTHERWISE, I'll use a simple action to unload Edit (after sending the message to Sledge), and do nothing for my remaining simple action (since I have no program running I can't very well do anything at all on the matrix).
Unless someone else can point me to something in the BBB saying you can do things in the matrix without programs (without being a TM). I was fairly certain there was some debate over this in the past, but after some thought, I think it was just debate over what you default to (attribute or program rating) when you lack a skill.
Only relevant rule I could find from work without a BBB.
On Page223. Under "Using Hacking Skill"
On Page223. Under "Using Hacking Skill"
| QUOTE |
| "When you are directly interacting with a device, make Hacking Tests using Hacking skill + Logic. If you are utilizing a hacking program, makes tests using Hacking skill + program rating." |
Some threas in the SR4 area have taken this to mean that you can hack without programs since it says IF, and because there are no other hacking tests that don't have associated programs.
Iffy logic, at best. Others have pointed out that no where in the rules does it say that you cannot do those things without the correct program, but I similarly think that the lack of a rule does not imply its opposite.
So, willing to go with it either way. I'm hoping that without a program I can still use the built-in Admin GUI... failing that, I might fire off a bunch of random code and see if I get lucky (above spoiler'd post). Though, if in light of fact that defaulting lets you get around lack of a skill (not lack of an attribute, and theoretically, a program), I would be fine with a ruling that a hacker without the proper tools, cannot hack. Of course, that means I won't be doing much to save the mystery hacker tonight.
To everyone else, I'll promise to switch to using my rating 5 commlink ASAP, and hopefully be a bit more useful.| QUOTE (adamu) |
| DireRadiant You didn't give me an initiative, so I rolled it and the ape won. I fail to see why, with Impact of 6 and Body of 6 you rolled 6 dice instead of 12. So I rolled 6 for you, and you also got mucho hits. But that is a strong monkey, and you take 3 boxes stun. |
Oops on the init, I thought I had rolled it, but obviously screwed that up. Probabaly forgot to do the cut and paste of the results.
As for the armor thing, that was my version mix up. Thought armor DV subtracted directly instead fo being dice to roll for effectiveness. Bad of me.
Compile R6 Data Sprite = 9 dice
6,5,1,2,6,4,1,4,2 - 3 hits
Sprite resist - 6 dice
1,5,2,3,6,3 - 2 hits
Fading resist - 11 dice [4s]
1,4,3,5,2,3,6,2,1,4,5 - 3 hits [1 stun left over]
I'm sending the sprite out to perform a data search on 'Louie Finnegan'.
6,5,1,2,6,4,1,4,2 - 3 hits
Sprite resist - 6 dice
1,5,2,3,6,3 - 2 hits
Fading resist - 11 dice [4s]
1,4,3,5,2,3,6,2,1,4,5 - 3 hits [1 stun left over]
I'm sending the sprite out to perform a data search on 'Louie Finnegan'.
Gotta love that mobsters use their real IDs, so their personal info is all over the place.
Course, with his reputation, I'll bet everyone is afraid to write anything bad about him.
Course, with his reputation, I'll bet everyone is afraid to write anything bad about him.
Cerberus
Man I had another post eaten by the disappearing ISP. No i wasnt using stupid notepad lol.
Cerberus does not own any form of eyewear that would let him see messages...yet. I have been saying i want a pair....Heh now that i think about it maybe i can steal some off any mobsters i can.
Im gonna use paint to draw up the floor plans to his apartment as i see them adamu and then try to send them to you. It would take me longer to post it and link to it so I will try this first.
You want my initiative and combat rolls?? I imagine my gyro harness is OFF. I forgot about it while i was changing clothes and i didnt put it back on so i will just say that it got stuffed in my bag
Man I had another post eaten by the disappearing ISP. No i wasnt using stupid notepad lol.
Cerberus does not own any form of eyewear that would let him see messages...yet. I have been saying i want a pair....Heh now that i think about it maybe i can steal some off any mobsters i can.
Im gonna use paint to draw up the floor plans to his apartment as i see them adamu and then try to send them to you. It would take me longer to post it and link to it so I will try this first.
You want my initiative and combat rolls?? I imagine my gyro harness is OFF. I forgot about it while i was changing clothes and i didnt put it back on so i will just say that it got stuffed in my bag
Ok i guess i can upload it faster since i couldnt email ya.
This is a crappy paint pic of what i think cerberus's apartment looks like for my scene lol.
http://www.geocities.com/abbandon_unleashe...d/apartment.bmp
PS: I hope everyone who was able to got out and voted today!!! Otherwise you deserve to by deported to china or iran where people dont have the right to vote.
This is a crappy paint pic of what i think cerberus's apartment looks like for my scene lol.
http://www.geocities.com/abbandon_unleashe...d/apartment.bmp
PS: I hope everyone who was able to got out and voted today!!! Otherwise you deserve to by deported to china or iran where people dont have the right to vote.
Rocky
To start with Rocky will just find the best cover he can where he will be able to watch the car as well as be aware of his surroundings.
He will keep his focus on the car, but every 20 seconds or so scan the area to make sure no one is sneaking up on him.
He'll give the car about 10 minutes to see if maybe they are just waiting for someone else, which will give him time to think.
JD
To start with Rocky will just find the best cover he can where he will be able to watch the car as well as be aware of his surroundings.
He will keep his focus on the car, but every 20 seconds or so scan the area to make sure no one is sneaking up on him.
He'll give the car about 10 minutes to see if maybe they are just waiting for someone else, which will give him time to think.
JD
Abbandon
Edited the text message thing. I knew for a fact your comm wasn't connected to any of your cyber, so not your cybereyes or ears, but looking at your sheet I saw that you'd paid Y50 for your shades, which I thought equalled the base Y25 for the shades, plus the Y25 for an imagelink. No worries, my mistaken assumption.
Sweet work on the map. Let's say that square is six meters on a side, shall we? Are maps like that something most any regular person can do, and I am just the freak? Or are you, like, really good at that stuff?
Maps like that could really be helpful for the game....
You won't need initiative until such time as you make contact. Of course, per your IC post, they are already right outside your door. So if you do something proactively, you will need initiative and a surprise test.
If you just lay in wait, you'll be on delay, but still roll both the initiative and surprise test for such time as contact is made.
If you want to do up a bunch of actions it would save us time - but since if you lay in wait you won't know exactly what you'll be responding to....
Edited the text message thing. I knew for a fact your comm wasn't connected to any of your cyber, so not your cybereyes or ears, but looking at your sheet I saw that you'd paid Y50 for your shades, which I thought equalled the base Y25 for the shades, plus the Y25 for an imagelink. No worries, my mistaken assumption.
Sweet work on the map. Let's say that square is six meters on a side, shall we? Are maps like that something most any regular person can do, and I am just the freak? Or are you, like, really good at that stuff?
Maps like that could really be helpful for the game....
You won't need initiative until such time as you make contact. Of course, per your IC post, they are already right outside your door. So if you do something proactively, you will need initiative and a surprise test.
If you just lay in wait, you'll be on delay, but still roll both the initiative and surprise test for such time as contact is made.
If you want to do up a bunch of actions it would save us time - but since if you lay in wait you won't know exactly what you'll be responding to....
| QUOTE (BlackHat) |
| Others have pointed out that no where in the rules does it say that you cannot do those things without the correct program, |
Actually, it sorta does. Check out top of page 208, right column. Says you don't use atts at all, only programs. So that is a direct contradiction of p. 223.
But I have given up on the hacking rules making any sense at all.
At this point, I am not so much concerned with making them seem logical, but just following the RAW as best I can.
In any case, you certainly do have programs - namely, your Response, System, Firewall, and Signal (well, two soft and two hardware features). These represent your icon.
As a rule of thumb, when I can't figure out the matrix rule for something, I am inclined simply to use meat rules, since AR/VR is now supposed to be more analogous to the meat world.
Since p. 223 is specifically about Hacking skill, not Cybercombat, I am going with the p. 208 reading, which says that for cybercombat you, without a combat program, would roll only your cybercombat skill - so for you that's 2 dice. Base DV 0.
Anyway, all this is academic since based on your initiative of 8, which is applicable from the moment you arrive on the scene and see what there is to see, you lose initiative. The Gundam-looking thing is all over you. Trust me when I say that he does have plenty of combat programs. In cybercombat you resist with Response + Firewall - you can use Edge if you want.
Not really worth the effort. Sticking around for round-two isn't going to shift the tide of battle one way or another. If I live this attack, I can fire off my message. If not, I'll spend my round using a complex action to reboot my commlink, and fire off the text-message warning next round, then think about switching commlinks to help out online. But, with this metalink, I am pretty much f-ed.
So, since he's firing missles at me, I guess its time for me to resist. Response+Firewall = 2 so: 6,1 = 1 hit, but half of my dice are ones, so its really a glitch - and not a critical one (so no restoration of edge). Hm, let you have fun with that one, as I think I'll need the remainder of my edge to get my ass outta here.
Damage Resistance is System + Armor so 1 die = 4... 0 hits, and no glitches.
My metalink's condition monitor has 9 boxes... and I assume I failed to avoid the attack, or to resist any damage... but at least its not the hacker getting hit, eh?
Sticking around for round-two isn't going to shift the tide of battle one way or another. If I live this attack, I can fire off my message. If not, I'll spend my round using a complex action to reboot my commlink, and fire off the text-message warning next round, then think about switching commlinks to help out online. But, with this metalink, I am pretty much f-ed. So, since he's firing missles at me, I guess its time for me to resist. Response+Firewall = 2 so: 6,1 = 1 hit, but half of my dice are ones, so its really a glitch - and not a critical one (so no restoration of edge). Hm, let you have fun with that one, as I think I'll need the remainder of my edge to get my ass outta here.
Damage Resistance is System + Armor so 1 die = 4... 0 hits, and no glitches.
My metalink's condition monitor has 9 boxes... and I assume I failed to avoid the attack, or to resist any damage... but at least its not the hacker getting hit, eh?
@Blackhat
You might want to roll 2 more resist tests, it has 2 more IP to tear your puny system into the ground.
You might want to roll 2 more resist tests, it has 2 more IP to tear your puny system into the ground.
Cerberus
I can see!!!! You know what you are right! I do have glasses and a glove and yea they would be image linked. I didnt scroll down my sheet far enough to see that stuff. it was stupid of me to squish it all together like that. I was looking where I had my clothes and armor and stuff. Lets just leave things the way they are for right now but I will remember I have hose things and include them in future posts. Guess it kind makes up for my magically appearing hockey bag.
About my map. Its really a piece of crap but you can go ahead and think its great lol. Every computer has the basic paint program. Start -> programs -> accessories -> paint. All i did to make it was use a bunch of rectangle templates that you just drag to adjust the size and a circle template for the red dot and a pencil for the lines pointing to stuff. There is also a button to insert text.
The hardest part was going to my email account and opening up my web builder and uploading the file. I used yahoo which lets you have 15mb for webspace. After it was loaded I just went to my file manager and there is a view link to see the image and it already had its own address and everything.
Play around with your paint program.
I can see!!!! You know what you are right! I do have glasses and a glove and yea they would be image linked. I didnt scroll down my sheet far enough to see that stuff. it was stupid of me to squish it all together like that. I was looking where I had my clothes and armor and stuff. Lets just leave things the way they are for right now but I will remember I have hose things and include them in future posts. Guess it kind makes up for my magically appearing hockey bag.
About my map. Its really a piece of crap but you can go ahead and think its great lol. Every computer has the basic paint program. Start -> programs -> accessories -> paint. All i did to make it was use a bunch of rectangle templates that you just drag to adjust the size and a circle template for the red dot and a pencil for the lines pointing to stuff. There is also a button to insert text.
The hardest part was going to my email account and opening up my web builder and uploading the file. I used yahoo which lets you have 15mb for webspace. After it was loaded I just went to my file manager and there is a view link to see the image and it already had its own address and everything.
Play around with your paint program.
Cerberus
Assuming Cerberus has the drop on the bad guys they open the door (or blast open the door if they know he is there), the room is dark so they begin to walk into his apartment looking for him and thats when he opens up on them after the 3rd guy is in the entrance.
If the bad guys come in firing grenades and shit then Cerberus will just go on full defense and try to take cover for the 1st and 2nd IP. I'd need more details for his 3rd IP.
Suprise init = 11 + 6 for ambushing
2, 4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 6, 3, 6, 2, 3, 2, 6, 1, 6, 5, 4, 1 = 5 hit SOB
Normal init = 11
5, 2, 1, 5, 5, 4, 1, 4, 6, 4, 3, = 4 hits
Final Init = 15
1st IP
Simple action- Short narrow burst @ anyone I have LOS to and is suprised(47/50)
10 dice
5, 5, 1, 4, 4, 2, 5, 2, 1, 4 = 3 hits
base DV = 8P
simple action- short narrow burst @ second target(44/50)
10 - 2 for switched target
4, 1, 4, 1, 3, 1, 2, 3, = 0 hits
2nd IP
Simple action - short narrow burst against anyone still standing(like the third guy) or my nearest target who I have LOS to.(41/50)
10 dice
1, 5, 4, 6, 5, 4, 3, 6, 4, 5 = 5 hits
base DV = 8P
Simple action - short and narrow, switch target and do the same as above.(38/50)
10 - 2 for switched target
5, 6, 5, 3, 4, 1, 2, 2 = 3 hits
base DV = 8P
3rd IP If any of the guys at my front door are still alive i will continue to pump short narrow burst into them, if they are all down i will stick my IWK through the nearest window with just the gun barrel to see if the camera on my gun can see any of the guys across the street. If i can see the guys across the street I will try to shoot at them with short narrow bursts. (it has no vision mods at all)(35 & 32/50)
10 dice - ?? mods
5, 3, 5, 3, 3, 5, 4, 6, 3, 3 = 4 hits?
base DV = 8P
10 dice - switch target - ?? mods
2, 3, 4, 1, 1, 1, 6, 4 = 1 hit or possable glitch
base DV = 8P
Bullet dodging: reaction 5
#1 3, 2, 6, 1, 3 = 1 hit
#2 5, 6, 2, 6, = 3 hits
#3 5, 3, 6 = 2 hits
#4 6, 2 = 1 hit
#5 2 = no hit
Body soaks 6 body + 9 ballistic = 15
1, 1, 6, 4, 6, 4, 6, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 3, 5, 2 = 4 hits
1, 5, 2, 1, 4, 5, 4, 1, 4, 6, 3, 2, 6, 6, 3 = 5 hits
2, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 4, 6, 1, 6, 6, 3, 2, 4, 5 = 6 hits
4, 4, 1, 6, 4, 1, 6, 1, 3, 6, 6, 6, 2, 6, 6 = 7 hits
5, 6, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 2, 3, 4, 3, 6, 3, 4, 3 = 3 hits
Assuming Cerberus has the drop on the bad guys they open the door (or blast open the door if they know he is there), the room is dark so they begin to walk into his apartment looking for him and thats when he opens up on them after the 3rd guy is in the entrance.
If the bad guys come in firing grenades and shit then Cerberus will just go on full defense and try to take cover for the 1st and 2nd IP. I'd need more details for his 3rd IP.
Suprise init = 11 + 6 for ambushing
2, 4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3, 6, 3, 6, 2, 3, 2, 6, 1, 6, 5, 4, 1 = 5 hit SOB
Normal init = 11
5, 2, 1, 5, 5, 4, 1, 4, 6, 4, 3, = 4 hits
Final Init = 15
1st IP
Simple action- Short narrow burst @ anyone I have LOS to and is suprised(47/50)
10 dice
5, 5, 1, 4, 4, 2, 5, 2, 1, 4 = 3 hits
base DV = 8P
simple action- short narrow burst @ second target(44/50)
10 - 2 for switched target
4, 1, 4, 1, 3, 1, 2, 3, = 0 hits
2nd IP
Simple action - short narrow burst against anyone still standing(like the third guy) or my nearest target who I have LOS to.(41/50)
10 dice
1, 5, 4, 6, 5, 4, 3, 6, 4, 5 = 5 hits
base DV = 8P
Simple action - short and narrow, switch target and do the same as above.(38/50)
10 - 2 for switched target
5, 6, 5, 3, 4, 1, 2, 2 = 3 hits
base DV = 8P
3rd IP If any of the guys at my front door are still alive i will continue to pump short narrow burst into them, if they are all down i will stick my IWK through the nearest window with just the gun barrel to see if the camera on my gun can see any of the guys across the street. If i can see the guys across the street I will try to shoot at them with short narrow bursts. (it has no vision mods at all)(35 & 32/50)
10 dice - ?? mods
5, 3, 5, 3, 3, 5, 4, 6, 3, 3 = 4 hits?
base DV = 8P
10 dice - switch target - ?? mods
2, 3, 4, 1, 1, 1, 6, 4 = 1 hit or possable glitch
base DV = 8P
Bullet dodging: reaction 5
#1 3, 2, 6, 1, 3 = 1 hit
#2 5, 6, 2, 6, = 3 hits
#3 5, 3, 6 = 2 hits
#4 6, 2 = 1 hit
#5 2 = no hit
Body soaks 6 body + 9 ballistic = 15
1, 1, 6, 4, 6, 4, 6, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 3, 5, 2 = 4 hits
1, 5, 2, 1, 4, 5, 4, 1, 4, 6, 3, 2, 6, 6, 3 = 5 hits
2, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 4, 6, 1, 6, 6, 3, 2, 4, 5 = 6 hits
4, 4, 1, 6, 4, 1, 6, 1, 3, 6, 6, 6, 2, 6, 6 = 7 hits
5, 6, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 2, 3, 4, 3, 6, 3, 4, 3 = 3 hits
Looks like someones in for a world of hurt...
Konsaki
The rest of the data is all the boring stuff. You can get the 'license plate' of all his cars, including the big black SUV. His home address. His wife's name - no kids. Lots of fake/real tax info, accounting stuff - all probably thoroughly cooked since he's a real wiz with numbers. If you have some specific question about anything like that, let me know and I'll roll to see if it's there.
The rest of the data is all the boring stuff. You can get the 'license plate' of all his cars, including the big black SUV. His home address. His wife's name - no kids. Lots of fake/real tax info, accounting stuff - all probably thoroughly cooked since he's a real wiz with numbers. If you have some specific question about anything like that, let me know and I'll roll to see if it's there.
Thanks for the IC post.
Fleshes out my enemy more and gives me a few cards, though I need to think on this to see what value they have.
Fleshes out my enemy more and gives me a few cards, though I need to think on this to see what value they have.
| QUOTE (Konsaki) |
| @Blackhat You might want to roll 2 more resist tests, it has 2 more IP to tear your puny system into the ground. |
Actually, unless I missed something, everyone does their first IP, and then people with multiple passes continue (2nd ed was where you counted down from highest by tens, so that most sams went three times before the sec guards got to go once).
So what happens in the bad guy's attack? Well, I shit you not, he rolled a glitch and only one success. So he scores no damage.
Now it's glitch vs glitch - the bad guy's finger missiles jam up (program glitch - no pun intended), while Smith flinches in the meat, falling off the security stool onto the floor with Teru (simple action to get up, if and when you want to).
BlackHat, that makes it your action - let me know what you want to do.
And by the way -
House Rule Announcement
The idea of regaining an Edge point every time you Crit Glitch is one of the dumbest rules I have ever seen. You could always use the new point to negate the glitch, in which case there would be no Crit Glitches. Or else you are simply being rewarded for what is supposed to be A) a really shitty thing, and B) a deterrent from just doing everything with low skill scores.
So that rule does not exist in this campaign.
| QUOTE (adamu) |
| The idea of regaining an Edge point every time you Crit Glitch is one of the dumbest rules I have ever seen. You could always use the new point to negate the glitch, in which case there would be no Crit Glitches. Or else you are simply being rewarded for what is supposed to be A) a really shitty thing, and B) a deterrent from just doing everything with low skill scores. So that rule does not exist in this campaign. |
Lol, that's fine by me.
I think if you negate the critical glitch (like I did earlier) you wouldn't regain any edge because the critical glitch never happened. At least, the way I have ruled it in the past was that you only regain edge if you suffer some adverse effects of the glitch (similarly, on some rolls, critical glitching doesn't really do anything bad - so no karma)... and I think the basic idea is that karma rewards those who bad things randomly happen to with good things later on... but I agree, its sort of a silly rule.
As for my action, for the time being, I will get up off the floor. Then, as a free action, I will send the previous message to Sledge, then as another simple action I will unload "edit" from active memory.
Let me know if you would like me to post IC reguarding the last combat round, or this next one - maybe after it is resolved (though no rolls should be necessary on my end).
BlackHat
Well, since you are still there in AR, the avatar switches to a different attack program and on the third IP attacks you. He's not messing around this time, and even if you roll all hits, you are crashing. So you crash.
Yes, go ahead and IC all this.
Well, since you are still there in AR, the avatar switches to a different attack program and on the third IP attacks you. He's not messing around this time, and even if you roll all hits, you are crashing. So you crash.
Yes, go ahead and IC all this.
Also, I have some matrix security knowledge skill. Could a roll possibly tell me what sort of response an alert going off on this sort of system would bring (after the IC)?
Logic (3) + Matrix Security (2) = 5 dice
5,6,4,1,4 = 2 hits
My OOC estimation is that, I would doubt they would send guards here in the real world, since the attack is coming from the matrix - but assuming it calls up some matrix security (and they finish off our hacker) it will be a matter of seconds before they see us in the cameras and call for RL backup, right?
Logic (3) + Matrix Security (2) = 5 dice
5,6,4,1,4 = 2 hits
My OOC estimation is that, I would doubt they would send guards here in the real world, since the attack is coming from the matrix - but assuming it calls up some matrix security (and they finish off our hacker) it will be a matter of seconds before they see us in the cameras and call for RL backup, right?
BlackHat
1. You don't think those were IC - you think they were MCT counter-hackers.
2. Since the fight was taking place in the central node, your guess is that they won't be able to do anything at all with the system until they take the node from skinhead hacker.
Your knowledge doesn't really cover what the physical response might be out here in the sticks.
1. You don't think those were IC - you think they were MCT counter-hackers.
2. Since the fight was taking place in the central node, your guess is that they won't be able to do anything at all with the system until they take the node from skinhead hacker.
Your knowledge doesn't really cover what the physical response might be out here in the sticks.
kay, sounds good - making some minor edits then, but otherwise, about what I expected (aside from the IC = hackers thing, that's bad)
Abbandon
Okay, first off, you said you went to thermo once you plunged your room into darkness by killing the lights, but once the goons open your door, the hall light spills in, making it partial light, so that's -2 for thermo. But during the first IP you can just use a free action to switch to LL, so no worries.
Okay, you hear them mucking with your door for about five minutes, and then they open it, and they all come in looking for you just like you thought they might. They all have big dusters on, with Mossberg CMDTs and of course shades that are probably enhanced. But you totally get the jump on them - they assumed you are just some dumb troll who went home and went to sleep.
So you wait for all three to come in, and your first shot literally blows the guy's head off.
Next shot misses, of course.
Next shot kills next guy.
Fourth shot should have killed third guy, but somehow he is still standing.
Fifth shot finishes him.
Of course, in IC terms it is just like you are mowing them down in a continuous hail of bullets until they all fall - that was five shots/15 rounds in 2.5 seconds.
You are just getting to your gun-cam thing at the window when the wall you are up against explodes inward with automatic fire from the other building. You forgot your +2 dam resist from your bone lacing, but I rolled it for you. Even so, you take three boxes of stun damage.
You can IC that or wait, but I need initiative and all that for the next round.
Okay, first off, you said you went to thermo once you plunged your room into darkness by killing the lights, but once the goons open your door, the hall light spills in, making it partial light, so that's -2 for thermo. But during the first IP you can just use a free action to switch to LL, so no worries.
Okay, you hear them mucking with your door for about five minutes, and then they open it, and they all come in looking for you just like you thought they might. They all have big dusters on, with Mossberg CMDTs and of course shades that are probably enhanced. But you totally get the jump on them - they assumed you are just some dumb troll who went home and went to sleep.
So you wait for all three to come in, and your first shot literally blows the guy's head off.
Next shot misses, of course.
Next shot kills next guy.
Fourth shot should have killed third guy, but somehow he is still standing.
Fifth shot finishes him.
Of course, in IC terms it is just like you are mowing them down in a continuous hail of bullets until they all fall - that was five shots/15 rounds in 2.5 seconds.
You are just getting to your gun-cam thing at the window when the wall you are up against explodes inward with automatic fire from the other building. You forgot your +2 dam resist from your bone lacing, but I rolled it for you. Even so, you take three boxes of stun damage.
You can IC that or wait, but I need initiative and all that for the next round.
BlackHat
Sweet IC. If you are going to act, you can go ahead and IC, or OOC if you think it is needed, but not more than a few seconds - we gotta see what happens next with Sledge.
Sweet IC. If you are going to act, you can go ahead and IC, or OOC if you think it is needed, but not more than a few seconds - we gotta see what happens next with Sledge.
Adamu
Most important item... Does the darned music stop?
For the moment I'll assume it doesn't.
Most important item... Does the darned music stop?
For the moment I'll assume it doesn't.
Sprinting for vault door
Strength 6 + Running 2 - Stun 1 = 7
1 hit = 2 5 3 2 1 2 4
2 hits = 2 6 5 1 3 2 1
I think it takes two turns to cover the 50 meters at least. 25 m turn for orks p 138
Strength 6 + Running 2 - Stun 1 = 7
1 hit = 2 5 3 2 1 2 4
2 hits = 2 6 5 1 3 2 1
I think it takes two turns to cover the 50 meters at least. 25 m turn for orks p 138
| QUOTE (adamu) |
| BlackHat Sweet IC. If you are going to act, you can go ahead and IC, or OOC if you think it is needed, but not more than a few seconds - we gotta see what happens next with Sledge. |
I assumed my actions for the combat round were done... .and tha Sledge was about to enter a new combat round, but lemem catch up on the IC stuff and get back to this.
| QUOTE (DireRadiant) |
| I think it takes two turns to cover the 50 meters at least. 25 m turn for orks p 138 |
Okay, if Sledge is using up two turns (and not entering combat with the mystery monster) I'll post my intentions for the next few rounds as well.
One important question, was the van left open (when the hippies were pulling out all the explosives and junk, did they close it up). I assume I would have no idea how to tell if it was locked or not, but I wanna get Teru-san to safety and that's our safest bet ATM.
Rebooting my commlink (to get back on the matrix, at large) will take one round (complex action). I wanna get back online so Cal, Sledge, the Hacker, or Deerwalker could message me with the status or the new plan. After that, Mr. Smith will pocket Teru's gun and spare clips (on the desk), and then start hefting up his body.
I want to get back online, and help the hacker, since that's our best bet - but it really is only a matter of time before the hammer comes down on that node - and I can't stay logged in long enough to really lend a hand... Adam knows saving Teru's life, and getting his other allies out while they have the chance is probably a better use of his time/abilities.
Unless I hear otherwise from Sledge or Cal, Mr. Smith will assume the drek has officially hit the fan, and that it is now time to start moving out... he could care less if the building actually gets blown up, or if the escaped animals find their way down the elevator or not... he did his job, and now he'd rather abort than get arrested for trying to save a squirrel.
Hopefully the hacker has the good sense to log before he gets his brain fried.
Rocky
Ok, Will continue to the apartment trying to hide as best I can and keeping an eye out for anything else odd.
Rocky
Infiltration Test (Default)
Agility (4) - Withdrawl (2) - Default (1) = 1 die
1 = 0 Hits - Crit Glitch (WWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEE)
Perception Test
Intuition (3) + Perception (3) + Activly Looking (3) - Withdrawl (2) = 7 dice
6, 5, 1, 2, 4, 5, 5 = 4 Hits
EDIT - Opps forgot to actually roll for perception, had just cut and paste from earlier. New rolls there now.
JD
Ok, Will continue to the apartment trying to hide as best I can and keeping an eye out for anything else odd.
Rocky
Infiltration Test (Default)
Agility (4) - Withdrawl (2) - Default (1) = 1 die
1 = 0 Hits - Crit Glitch (WWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEE)
Perception Test
Intuition (3) + Perception (3) + Activly Looking (3) - Withdrawl (2) = 7 dice
6, 5, 1, 2, 4, 5, 5 = 4 Hits
EDIT - Opps forgot to actually roll for perception, had just cut and paste from earlier. New rolls there now.
JD
"I'm a big troll and I'm trying to hide here!!! Dont look at me! I'm invisible!!!", Rocky yells while holding a glowing neon sign that says 'I'm not here'.
| QUOTE (Konsaki) |
| "I'm a big troll and I'm trying to hide here!!! Dont look at me! I'm invisible!!!", Rocky yells while holding a glowing neon sign that says 'I'm not here'. :D |
Yeah I think that about covers it.
I didn't realize how bad a chance I had at doing that untill I started making the post, but wanted to stick with the plan.
JD
I give you props for still trying. Hopefully it isnt too disasterous.
DireRadiant
Looks like initiative and all that.
Looks like initiative and all that.
Cerberus
Yeah i would definately like to do the IC up to the wall exploding. Did I get hurt from debris or bullets or from falling?
Initiative: 11 dice
4, 4, 5, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 = small gltich
final initiative = 12
1st IP:
simple action - stand up and run to my bedroom doorway for partial cover
simple action - scanning for targetsw/ low light vision
Eyes = 11 - 2 for rain (If im not already i will be in low light vision i think.
6, 4, 4, 6, 6, 1, 6, 3, 6 = 5 hits
2nd IP:
simple action - short narrow burst at the guy who has the better angle on me
6 dice?? crap. 10- 1 for damage - 1 for shooting from cover - 2 from targets being in partial cover
3, 4, 3, 6, 3, 1 = 1 hit
simple action - short narrow bursts at the same guy if he hasnt been finished off.
6 dice
2, 5, 1, 6, 4, 3 = 2 hits
(what to do with this roll?? I wouldnt be switching targets any longer within the same IP so i guess just throw it out?
simple action - switch target and short narrow burst
6 - 2 for switching = 4 dice..
1, 4, 4, 6, = 1 hit )
3rd IP:
2 simple actions - short narrow bursts at the second target
6 dice
4, 6, 1, 3, 6, 4 = 2 hits
6, 5, 3, 2, 4, 4 = 2 hits
Bullet dodges:
5 dice
#1 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, = 0 hits
#2 3, 6, 1, 2, = 1 hits (4 dice)
#3 2, 1, 3, = 0 hits (3 dice)
#4 5, 5, = 2 hits (10 dice)
damage soaks: 16 dice! 17 - 1 for damage
6, 2, 2, 2, 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 4, 4, 3, 5, 5, 4, = 6 hits
1, 5, 5, 1, 5, 4, 5, 3, 4, 6, 1, 2, 6, 2, 1, 2 = 6 hits
6, 3, 4, 3, 2, 2, 5, 3, 5, 6, 4, 2, 6, 2, 2, 1 = 5 hits
4, 5, 4, 4, 1, 6, 6, 1, 6, 2, 5, 3, 3, 2, 1, 3 = 5 hits
Yeah i would definately like to do the IC up to the wall exploding. Did I get hurt from debris or bullets or from falling?
Initiative: 11 dice
4, 4, 5, 4, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 = small gltich
final initiative = 12
1st IP:
simple action - stand up and run to my bedroom doorway for partial cover
simple action - scanning for targetsw/ low light vision
Eyes = 11 - 2 for rain (If im not already i will be in low light vision i think.
6, 4, 4, 6, 6, 1, 6, 3, 6 = 5 hits
2nd IP:
simple action - short narrow burst at the guy who has the better angle on me
6 dice?? crap. 10- 1 for damage - 1 for shooting from cover - 2 from targets being in partial cover
3, 4, 3, 6, 3, 1 = 1 hit
simple action - short narrow bursts at the same guy if he hasnt been finished off.
6 dice
2, 5, 1, 6, 4, 3 = 2 hits
(what to do with this roll?? I wouldnt be switching targets any longer within the same IP so i guess just throw it out?
simple action - switch target and short narrow burst
6 - 2 for switching = 4 dice..
1, 4, 4, 6, = 1 hit )
3rd IP:
2 simple actions - short narrow bursts at the second target
6 dice
4, 6, 1, 3, 6, 4 = 2 hits
6, 5, 3, 2, 4, 4 = 2 hits
Bullet dodges:
5 dice
#1 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, = 0 hits
#2 3, 6, 1, 2, = 1 hits (4 dice)
#3 2, 1, 3, = 0 hits (3 dice)
#4 5, 5, = 2 hits (10 dice)
damage soaks: 16 dice! 17 - 1 for damage
6, 2, 2, 2, 4, 2, 5, 6, 3, 6, 4, 4, 3, 5, 5, 4, = 6 hits
1, 5, 5, 1, 5, 4, 5, 3, 4, 6, 1, 2, 6, 2, 1, 2 = 6 hits
6, 3, 4, 3, 2, 2, 5, 3, 5, 6, 4, 2, 6, 2, 2, 1 = 5 hits
4, 5, 4, 4, 1, 6, 6, 1, 6, 2, 5, 3, 3, 2, 1, 3 = 5 hits
Geez... at around that point i would had let the idiots die due to their own stupidity...
Comeon how stupid can you be about tigers and all that shit?
Comeon how stupid can you be about tigers and all that shit?
BlackHat
Okay, I assume the first thing you want to do is reboot. You can have that done and be just starting on something else by about the time Sledge faces off with Kitty.
The van doors were left wide open.
Teru's a little guy, but still weighs 70 kilos. Per Encumbrance on p. 300, there is no way you can carry him with 3 strength. But I make exceptions for short hops. If you can score enough successes per Carrying Capacity on p. 300, you can carry him to the van at half your walking speed (20 meters to cover). Otherwise, you will be stuck dragging him, and then trying to somehow work him up into the van, which is a project that will take longer than most of the other things that are going on.
Okay, I assume the first thing you want to do is reboot. You can have that done and be just starting on something else by about the time Sledge faces off with Kitty.
The van doors were left wide open.
Teru's a little guy, but still weighs 70 kilos. Per Encumbrance on p. 300, there is no way you can carry him with 3 strength. But I make exceptions for short hops. If you can score enough successes per Carrying Capacity on p. 300, you can carry him to the van at half your walking speed (20 meters to cover). Otherwise, you will be stuck dragging him, and then trying to somehow work him up into the van, which is a project that will take longer than most of the other things that are going on.
JDragon
Well, I guess you slipped and fell into a pile of garbage cans with a huge clatter and that disturbed a bunch of fornicating cats, and they starting yowling. But nothing happens, and you perceive no further threats. You can IC into your coffin hotel. But let's continue to keep things one step at a time.
Well, I guess you slipped and fell into a pile of garbage cans with a huge clatter and that disturbed a bunch of fornicating cats, and they starting yowling. But nothing happens, and you perceive no further threats. You can IC into your coffin hotel. But let's continue to keep things one step at a time.
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