Basically, any time you are in VR and do not use the proper action to change modes before going back to the real world, you get dump shock.

No, they are watching the perimeter, that is correct. But you had to run through their field-of-vision to get to the car.

Also, the car has sensors as well.

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I meant, how would the sim module be able to send you the shock, if there is no cable attached.

Either way, dumpshock is 6S/P and resisted still, so that wouldn't fry him.

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You aren't sending dump shock - it's just an effect of suddenly having chaotic input directly into your brain.

Refering to this part here (from the SR5 core book):

"When you’re disconnected from the Matrix while in VR without gracefully switching to AR first, you suffer a nasty shock as your sim module kicks out."

But really, it's just rambling. Was mostly wondering how dumpshock happens, and what would happen, if your DNI suddenly disappeared (like, when you become a turtle).

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Doesn't Mindlink require a voluntary target?

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Hacking: 16d6t5 6

Yes, but I assume, he won't resist communication

He does not know what you are doing.

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Small note - of an inconsequential nature - that turtles are reptiles, not amphibians. Bobby's an expert zoologist so I figure he would know.

Yeah, good catch - reptile disfunction on my part

I don't think you need to know how the spell works - I imagine it's like a phone call - if you don't want to talk, you can hang up.

Ok, sure. We can do it that way.

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Was just going to say... the problem with that Mindlink spell is, that the rest isn't really able to take part much. So, thumbs up!

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Hi folks, obviously I've not managed to get myself to engage with the game in ages. Please assume that Tamarind saw someone from her past life, got spooked and ran off with her drones . (Obviously if I return I won't take any rewards from this run).

When this run wraps up I'll be back in touch and we can figure out if I think I can return to consistency and if you all want to take a chance on me doi5so.

Beta, good to hear from you. Always nice to know that folks are still alive and kicking.

I'm slowing down due to the US holidays. (Will be especially slow this week since I won't be at my computer at work.)

I don't think that is even remotely necessary.

We can just keep Tamarind around and in the background (driving the car, providing drone overwatch).

Hope you are feeling better soon!

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Did we resovle hacking the deck to poke in? I rolled hacking and edit file I think.

Not yet. I thought, I give you guys a bit of time to have a chance to join in with Bobby's questioning of the decker (see Jack's last IC post).

But I will move on later today.

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i don't see realistically how we can providing he is a turtle and Bobby is communicating through mind link.

As I said, see Jack's last IC post.

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Okay, back in the saddle. Thanks for your patience.

Holidays were good. I found them restful and restorative, which isn't always the case. Now just have to make it three weeks until Christmas break.

I'm not normally into murder hoboing, but for some reason this hacker really got on my nerves.

The question is: Will we get into trouble by vanishing the guy or by leaving him alive to come after us?


Also his approach means, that the traffic cameras should have picked up the real escape vehicle.

Maybe they did...

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@Tecumseh

Technically, the guy forfeited his life in his very first answer when he said, he had no part in the abduction
Sending a ransom note is very much part of that.

I would say that he's technically correct that he didn't have anything to do with the abduction; the ransom note turns out to be a separate element that is piggybacking on the extraction.

Mato is detached enough that he doesn't really care about the fate of the decker. He's more concerned about Bobby going full Dark Side. A little Dark Side is an asset, but too much becomes a liability.

As for the traffic cameras, yes, but the issue with that was always the brute force needed to hack and scour them all. And even if we identify it, how are we going to track it down? It appears we're not on the clock as far as ransom is concerned, but we need to move quickly before the trail goes cold. We might be up for a bar brawl after all.

My main concern is securing the deck for AM - it's a neat upgrade and I'd hate for this guy to trace us back through his old hardware.

Yes, no objections there. Although AM always seemed emotionally attached to her Erika - perhaps due to the sacrifices she had to make to acquire it - so I would wonder if a purely mechanical upgrade would appeal to her or not.

@Gilga: The Hardpan observation was already mentioned here:

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=1369221

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Maybe those things also have a way to "reset to factory settings".

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Well, sure, but canonically the "factory settings" would have the manufacturer as the owner until someone buys the device and ownership is transferred.

I don't mind the concept of Ownership and trying to discourage players from looting everything in sight, but how ownership works - both mechanically and narratively - is just so underbaked. I wonder if it got any better in 6E.

Oh, I see. I havn't really looked into that in detail.

Looks like this is the way then...



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That's what Bobby would have gone for - Using analyse device to gain enough bonus dice to crack the ownership

@gilga

Are you sure about that? That guy nearly fucked over a (relatively) innocent person - also his gear is worth over 100.000 Nuyen. That's pretty substantial considering we might miss our payday due to his interference.

Well let's be open to the possibility that AM's IC opinion may not perfectly align with Gilga's OOC opinion.

I would say that the decker's actions have been nothing personal (in terms of SIS). It would be poor form to execute anyone and everyone who inconveniences us, or who has a toy that we want.

Execution is already off the table - we are now talking about robbing him or letting him off without any repercussions.

Because if we are not taking his gear, Bobby will destroy it.

Wellsince SIS is a visible buissness with SINner employees... I dont think we want the notoriety of stealing gear or destroying it for that manner.

If we're trying to avoid this guy having a 10-year vendetta against us, like he does against Falcone, then not destroying the gear would be the way to go.

If there's a concern about him being an immediate complication due to his gear, then let's brick it with Matrix damage. The book's description of Matrix damage is fairly dramatic, but the mechanics of the rules make it relatively easy to repair. So we'd covering our departure, but not severely inconveniencing him. The broken window on the Phoenix might be a bigger hassle to fix.

Him warning the Black Cats is another problem - but yeah bricking his gear is the way to go.

Hmm...

If AM's concern is that the decker might come after you legally, if you take his deck away, what is the difference in destroying it for that purpose?

Might as well keep it.

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AM has offered to turn the decker and deck to Hafiz so that they can take legal action against a man that harmed them. I think her last suggestion is compatible with her idea of not getting us in troubles. It took me (as a player) a few days to have the attention to think what makes sense as we moved from murder to theft to vandalism.

AM brings up a point that I was thinking about over the weekend, which was, "Have the parameters of the job changed?"

The original task was to find the target and bring him back unharmed. Okay, that's still on the To Do list.

But one of Falcone's primary motivations was the ransom note that said that the victim would be executed and the results publicized if the ransom were not paid. That would obviously be a detriment to Falcone's reputation, so much so that he hired us to neutralize the threat. Now, that threat has been eliminated. So while the extraction is still embarrassing, it doesn't seem to be the existential threat that Falcone initially feared.

I'll be curious to hear what Hafiz and Falcone have to say.

AM thinks in similar lines, I mean I am not sure we have any lead how to find these cats right now.

The Hardpan is our lead right now. It's hard to imagine it resulting in anything but a bar brawl, but that's the job.

GM, do you need anything from us before we proceed? I think we're waiting on a response from Hafiz and/or Falcone before heading to the Hardpan.

Mato references AM's backstory. I don't know for sure that she's shared that with the rest of the team - I think she omits the Big Regret about her boyfriend - but I'm presuming it has come up over the last few months of working and living together.

If that's not the case, just let me know and I'll edit the reference. Mato's suggestion will be the same regardless.

I think AM shared her backstory with Mato, and I feel like I should buy that big regret given how much she changed since the beginning of the story and gained confidence and made peace with who she is.

I was thinking Physical Mask instead of Fashion, as Fashion would only affect AM's clothes. But thinking about it further, Fashion + Makeover would largely accomplish the same things, and perhaps be better as Permanent spells rather than a Sustained one.

Happy Holidays, everyone

Hope you guys had some nice holidays.

AM is going inside trying to get the attention of the owner.

Is Mato still going to the bar? With Bobby accompanying him?

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Yes, all three are going in together