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grendel
The system attempts to discern patterns of activity which indicate something out of the ordinary is going on: odd shadows moving, figures whose faces are obscured, weapons, gunfire, things of that nature. The easiest way to defeat the system is to look like you belong in the area. Some of the more sensitive pattern recognition even attempt to match the faces on the surveillance cameras with employee database photos, but you don't think that's the case with this system.
Morgannah
Ahh crap.

Thanks for the info, Grendel!

*wanders away cursing softly under her breath*
Slipshade
WinterRat1 - I will be away from the boards until next week.

Slip
WinterRat1
Hey Everyone,

Just a brief announcement, tax season is obviously over, and I'm working on getting the tattered shards of my life back together. I will be catching up with posts ASAP over the next few days. I have to deal with various other matters that have been on hold during tax season that probably shouldn't have been that need to take priority, but by Sunday I should be totally up to speed, and making progress on various dumpshock related issues as well! smile.gif

So just as a checklist, I owe posts for the following people:

Scrapheap
Sedna (via Dragon).
Karma awards for my players

Slipshade did you respond yet? I don't think I saw you in response to my latest post, correct me if I'm wrong. Salvation players, is there anything you need from me that I missed? Just checking, thanks everyone for your patience, and I'll get up and running ASAP, finally!
The_Eyes
Diamond is, of course, is from here. It sounded like something he would say. biggrin.gif

I fully intend on getting all of the Infiltration Challenge people shadowtalking, so be warned. smile.gif
Sedna
I was hoping that was it! spin.gif But when are we going to see Eyes ("Blondie"?) posting again in SL?

(I'll let the Other Thread ride until Sunday, just in case anyone comes up with anything additional or seriously innovative: and then since you're pretty much there, I'll do that final summary. I don't think I've said this openly yet, but that Other Thread does lie in the backstory of this world (date tba, but a few years before the "present time"; just in case anyone wants to make contacts in common or otherwise know of that run ...? grinbig.gif )
WinterRat1
Karma Awards for my Players (2 weeks worth; note this is only from the 5th-19th):

Sedna: 1/week + 1/week GM = 4
Paul: 1/week = 2
Digital: 1/week = 2
Scrapheap: 1/week +2 quality = 4
Slipshade: 1/week+1 quality = 3
WinterRat1
double post
The_Eyes
QUOTE (Sedna)
I was hoping that was it!  spin.gif  But when are we going to see Eyes ("Blondie"?) posting again in SL?
Hey that's a good point; I have been forgetting to have Eyes posting up articles (and good guess, btw! though I guess it wasn't as hard a guess as I thought/was hoping. grinbig.gif) It's tough thinking up ideas for random articles that would be of interest to him. Where do you come up with your ideas? I'm pretty sure that last one was from one of those random essay generators, but what about the others?

QUOTE
(I'll let the Other Thread ride until Sunday, just in case anyone comes up with anything additional or seriously innovative: and then since you're pretty much there, I'll do that final summary.  I don't think I've said this openly yet, but that Other Thread does lie in the backstory of this world (date tba, but a few years before the "present time"; just in case anyone wants to make contacts in common or otherwise know of that run ...?  grinbig.gif )

Ooh, I could take Solitaire as a contact? Hey Grendel, I know I promised not to ask about changing my charsheet again... biggrin.gif
The_Eyes
double post
Sedna
QUOTE
I'm pretty sure that last one was from one of those random essay generators, but what about the others?

That one was somewhere between a light edit of some existing material and a cold write (I've never used an essay generator) -- and the idea for that particular one actually wasn't mine vegm.gif [/teamwork]

If you're serious about Solitaire, I'll let you and grendel sort that one out. After all, The_Eyes, you know as much about her as I do biggrin.gif

Was going to add this into the other post yesterday as another piece of backstory but then Dumpshock died on me: as long as I'm dating things, I may as well revise-date the old Warehouse Run to start on Monday, December 18, 2062. That better matches Dragon's active storyline (the carry-over character).
Slipshade
WinterRat1 - Nope no reply yet. Probably not until next week. Work is to busy right now.

Slip
Sedna
Kibbitzing is welcome smile.gif
Morgannah
Stealth test to sneak across the parking lot:
2.3.4.8.13. (8 if task pool from the cerebral booster applies to Stealth tests)

Perception test to scan the parking lot:
1.2.3.5.5.5.5.11.

I've edited my double post from this morning to reflect a stepup in the timeline. smile.gif
Sedna
Once I stopped staring at the sheer amount of posting and started reading, I was laughing so hard all the way through that, grendel and Morgannah!
The_Eyes
Indeed. Those two are insane, in the best way possible. Makes my inability to follow straight lines seem even more stupid by comparison. nyahnyah.gif

(Oh, and the Cerebral Booster's task pool applies to all INT-linked skills, rather like the Encephalon's. I so wish I had gotten one for my char; so many things I wish I had gotten for my char. nyahnyah.gif)
Sedna
I'm so feeling like I'm in an episode of True Lies notworthy.gif

I had reason to check up on surgery times recently -- with a reasonable BD roll an encephalon is not beyond the realms of the reasonable, even LitS time-wise. But there will -- and should! -- always be more things we want for our PCs biggrin.gif
The_Eyes
Yeah, but who has the time? I've got to be programming pretty much non-stop to even stay a mediocre decker as compared to the Otaku, who can raise his skill-based channels even more quickly than normal. And that assumes I can find a good team of people to program with, and somehow avoid the Bug rules... ugh. No, I don't think I'll ever have time for 'ware again. I'll be happy if I ever get around to buying a decent MPCP so I'm not forced to take that awful, awful double time on search tests.

Besides, I've got a good game of subjective chess going at the moment. biggrin.gif
Morgannah
*bows* Thank you, thank you. smile.gif I live to entertain, you know. wink.gif It's even better when I get to have fun too.

Thanks for the heads-up on the task pool, Eyes, I wasn't sure since the wording in M&M isn't exactly clear. As for more ware, though, I'm absolutely chomping at the bit to get pheremones for Cosmo; she could be recovering for a month, game time, and I'd still consider it a fair trade. biggrin.gif

No one ever said that there was anything wrong with being a little insane. grinbig.gif
WinterRat1
Remember, recovering does not equal bed-ridden. Sure there's a lot of things you can't do, but that's when we can explore the more interesting elements of your character. Elements that aren't linked to running around blowing things up or risking one's neck on a daily basis. smile.gif
Morgannah
QUOTE (WinterRat1)
Remember, recovering does not equal bed-ridden.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

And yes, I know I'm going to hell. I hear it's nice there this time of year.... devil.gif
Slipshade
I got to post again...Yay!
WinterRat1
BTW Slip, you have 9 boxes of stun and 2 physical currently.
Slipshade
Just had to bring me right back down didn't you WinterRat1. nyahnyah.gif
bclements
grendel and Ecclesiastes:

Sorry for the lack of posting for the past few days. Work has been very hectic, but should calm down by Saturday evening.
grendel
No worries.
The_Eyes
Reference. biggrin.gif
Moirdryd
Question, has the DS site being on and off lately or am i just having difficulties my end, havent been able to get on untill today for the past week? or am i just hitting it during maintenence hours or something silly atm?

Jon / Knight
The_Eyes
Moirdryd: Reference. nyahnyah.gif Basically hiccups in the new server.
bclements
Sedna: zurramato is spanish (mexican, acutually) slang for "dumbass". I've only heard it in a perjoritive context, although like most spanish slang it tends to have a non-pejoritive literal translation. Seemed approprate, given the rest of Shadowland's response for that poster and my character's background.
The_Eyes
Question: what actually counts as trainning time? Specifically I'm looking at social skills, which are a bit hard to just "train" in a vacum, or by studying books or whatever.

On another note, I am so not cut out to play an investigator. smile.gif This whole sequence has felt like wandering through a maze with no walls, no structure, and no indication of where the endpoint is, or if one even exists. It's extremely frustrating to a linear mind like mine. I have a sinking feeling I'm not going to ever actually make any real headway until grendel gets so sick of my confused nattering that he either bodily forces Eyes into the answer or just has him killed. nyahnyah.gif
Cedric Rolfsson
For all of you GM types out there I have a suggestion/request for information on Shadowland.

I am interested in the local political scene, I think it is ripe territory for shadowrunning for any and all runners. It would seem to me that political information, like who is running for what office, when the elections are, which party is backing which canidate, which canidate is rumored to be in the pocket of X-corp or the Y syndicate would be of great interest for shadowfolk. As far as I can tell though no one has explored that at all yet.

I just think that would provide all kinds of nifty story hooks, and if people were interested in organizing their own operations that would be a decent starting place. It would also allow GMs to provide relatively easy runs, which could easily spin into all sorts of interesting areas.

Anyway, I was hoping someone could explore that area of the Dumpshock universe and post some information on the Shadowland network.
The_Eyes
Hey, you want to do it? I think it's been sufficiently proven that I'm barely creative enough to handle my own character, and most of the GMs are already busy; you want to give it a try? I'm dead certain you won't find too many objections. smile.gif
grendel
For the time being, treat all skill training time as the same. If that changes, expect an update as required.

Also, I have only ever once killed a character out of hand, and that only because I knew the player was planning on making a new character. So Eyes has little to fear about that.
Cedric Rolfsson
Is anyone but me interested in the political landscape as possible shadow running territory? If no one is interested but me then I won't clutter up your forum with poli-talk but if anyone else is interested let me know and I'd be willing to whip something up.
The_Eyes
QUOTE (grendel)
For the time being, treat all skill training time as the same.  If that changes, expect an update as required.

Well, I more meant: what do you usually do when trainning up something like a social skill and, perhaps more appropriately, can you be doing anything else *while* you're trainning a skill, particularly social ones? For instance, I'm thinking of spending some karma to pick up my Negotiations skill; can any of the four hours Eyes spent hanging out at the bar "yesterday" count towards the trainning time, or does the time specifically have to be dedicated to trainning the skill?

QUOTE
Also, I have only ever once killed a character out of hand, and that only because I knew the player was planning on making a new character.  So Eyes has little to fear about that.

Of course I was being facetious. I hope noone here is taking the comments with smilies in them seriously or anything. smile.gif
Sedna
Patience! It's Monday, it's been a downloaded-upon kind of week (and it hasn't really started yet), many of us aren't really awake yet (I know I'm not), some of us are happy to have electricity at all, and I'm behind on everything -- but it's good to know at least some of us are on top of things smile.gif

You should know our policy on these things by now, Cedric: if there's an aspect of the world you want to explore, go for it! Write your character in those directions! Start writing political columns on Shadowland! You've got the same knowledge of what's canon-happening in early January 2063 as we do. The only restrictions we place, here, is to clear it with your GM before you write in any events that might reach out and affect another player -- unless they occur as a direct result of what Erebus does, of course smile.gif

bclements: thanks! (and my glossary of useful Aztlaner Spanish terms grows a little).

Sunday karma (April 18-24):

bandit: (+1 GM bonus) = 1
WinterRat: (1 (+1 GM bonus) = 2
grendel
QUOTE (The_Eyes)
Well, I more meant: what do you usually do when trainning up something like a social skill and, perhaps more appropriately, can you be doing anything else *while* you're trainning a skill, particularly social ones? For instance, I'm thinking of spending some karma to pick up my Negotiations skill; can any of the four hours Eyes spent hanging out at the bar "yesterday" count towards the trainning time, or does the time specifically have to be dedicated to trainning the skill?

Yes, skill training time is considered exclusive. The logic behind establishing a maximum amount of time able to train (or work or program) in a day is so that a shadowrunner will still have time to take care of all of the other miscellaneous details in his or her life.
banditf50
Hey everyone . . . I am back! Thesis-free and back in one piece, ready to pick things back up around LiTS. Just a couple random notes as I get caught up with the events that I have missed around the boards.

1. Sedna and Dragon, I think that recent post should cover the information that Virgil knows that no one else present at the meetings knows. Unless his words spawn further disussion things are ready for leaving the clinic.

2. Moirdryd and Cedric, I will be putting up posts and/or reponses to PM's and emails for the two of you later today. Thanks for bearing with me, and outstanding job Cedric!
WinterRat1
Sedna, if you could post something (even small) to let us know if any of the NPCs has anything to say in response to Bandit's post, as soon as I know no one else has anything to add/we are ready to move on, I'll have Dragon lead the team to Jonah's last known location, as per Virgil's mind probe of Cindy. Sound good to you?
Sedna
Will do. Give me a few hours though -- those e-mails and the Infiltration Challenge had to take priority, and I only had a few minutes so far. Will be today, though.
banditf50
Man it feels great to be back in the thick of it all smile.gif
grendel
Karma awards for my players:

Shadowrunner13: 1 pt (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th)
Ecclesiastes: 1 pt (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th)
Bastard: 1 pt (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th)
Bclements: 1 pt (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th)
The Eyes: 1 pt (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th)
Morgannah: 2 pts (Apr. 20th - Apr. 26th) [includes karma for Socialite post]
Ecclesiastes
Grendel, here is the roll you asked for...

Demolitions (defaulting to Intel, -2 TN for Microscopic Vision): 17 10 08 08 04 04 04 03 02 02
Sedna
bandit, WinterRat, I'll need surprise rolls from you.
banditf50
Surprise roll for Virgil

reaction: 14 04 03 02
WinterRat1
Dragon's surprise roll

11 09 05 05 05 04 04 (ah, good roll, might need it here)

Does Perceptive or any sensory 'ware modify the TN at all?

Otherwise, assuming standard TN of 4: 7 successes

Also, I figured it was reasonable to say Dragon would've checked his weapons as a matter of course upon having them returned to him. The actions he took were things I felt he could do in a very brief amount of time before (a potential) ambush. If you feel otherwise Sedna, let me know and I'll edit to adjust.
grendel
QUOTE (Ecclesiastes)
Grendel, here is the roll you asked for...

Demolitions (defaulting to Intel, -2 TN for Microscopic Vision): 17 10 08 08 04 04 04 03 02 02

I should have gone with my original thought and had you roll intelligence. There are no linked skills to demolition, so in order to default you must go to the attribute. Don't worry about a reroll, it was my mistake.
Ecclesiastes
Actually, that was Intel. Hence it saying "defaulting to Intel". smile.gif

I checked the defaulting table in SR3 and saw that I couldn't default to electronics.
grendel
Probably smart if I read before I posted, eh?
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