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Bull
Removed that link. That was just disgusting, don't post stuff like that again.

Bull
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (Demerzel)
Unfortunately Fist that does not appear to be the case... I had hoped along with you that it was a placeholder image, like when they used the pic for the combat mage archetype in the Street Magic sell sheet.


*cries gently as he leaves the room*
odinson
How was that link even remotely disgusting. Are you in china where they have horrible restrictions on the interwebs and have missed out on all the goodness of shock sites? Have you never seen Tom Green? Do you not watch movies?

I seriously never understood why images like that would gross people out.
Demerzel
Boy, that's twice this week I made the Fisty of Doom cry...
Zolhex
QUOTE (Demerzel)
Boy, that's twice this week I made the Fisty of Doom cry...

You big bully stop that. grinbig.gif
fistandantilus4.0
I know, I know. I'd go hang my head in shame, but that would just perpetuate the cycle. Sometimes I feel like I'm just not as "Doomy" as I used to be.

QUOTE (odinson)
I seriously never understood why images like that would gross people out.

It's a cow, his name is Bull. How would you like it if you saw, say... Thor cut open with a little dwarf inside. wink.gif
odinson
I don't think a dwarf would fit in my cat.
FrankTrollman
QUOTE (odinson)
How was that link even remotely disgusting. Are you in china where they have horrible restrictions on the interwebs and have missed out on all the goodness of shock sites? Have you never seen Tom Green? Do you not watch movies?

I think that's the deal here. Some of the moderators actually expressed to me that they didn't know what a Goatse or Lemonparty even were. Those are of course the iconic websites that have become verbed.

To Goatse someone means to redirect them to a part of the internet that shows them something they wish they hadn't seen. And to Lemonparty someone means to change someone's homepage to something horrible while they aren't paying attention.

But if the moderators aren't familiar with the nouns let alone the verbs, then I could see why a naked man in a cow might shock them.

-Frank
Rotbart van Dainig
QUOTE (odinson)
I don't think a dwarf would fit in my cat.

That depends on the dwarf.
fistandantilus4.0
Just so we're clear, the one unfamiliar with the terms was me. The cow was gross, but shocked wasn't the word I would have used for myself.

What I expressed to Frank was mostly along the lines of consideration to others. I had an almost unfortuante incident a year or so ago, when I opened a link someone else had posted. When opened with one browser, it was the link he intended. But the pic on the site had been hacked ,so that when it opened with another browser, it showed a very close up shot of the unshaved female groin. Now, I was opening this pic at work, and if anyone had seen it, I'd have been fired.

Many people here view DS at work, and they'd likely have similar (although hopefully not too similar questions) asked of them had they opened Frank's pic at work and been seen at it.

For those interested . here's the Guidelines:
-No pornographic, sexually offensive, sexually explicit, or objectifying material. We'd like for our readers to be able to read the forums at work and share with friends without fear of retribution.

Second relevant Guideline :
-Failure to comply with these guidelines may result in the modification or deletion of your post(s) and/or thread(s) by an Administrator and/or Moderator.

So that's why Bull edited it.

We now return you to your normally scheduled complaining about cover art. Thank you, come again.
Hopefully no one considers taht sexual, but the second part is the key here.
odinson
Shouldn't people be working at work and not hacking the interwebs? ;p
odinson
QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)
QUOTE (odinson @ Jul 5 2007, 08:45 PM)
I don't think a dwarf would fit in my cat.

That depends on the dwarf.

I guess if the dwarf was really small. My cat is quite fat.
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (odinson)
Shouldn't people be working at work and not hacking the interwebs? ;p

Depends on their job. wink.gif

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread discussion....
Whipstitch
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Jul 5 2007, 01:10 PM)
*cries gently as he leaves the room*

Don't worry big guy, you're not alone. I too went through the denial stage of mourning when I saw the cover (Although I worked my way up to anger by the time I posted). We'll all get through this together.
fistandantilus4.0
It's like the BBB all over again! Why!?! WHYYYYYyyyyyyyy....
MITJA3000+
The lady in the cover really does look like something you could see in a computer game. Otherwise I think it's pretty neat, not so dark as SR-book covers usually are. Generally I think that the 4th ed covers are somewhat better than with previous editions. Especially 3rd ed. rulebooks had pretty silly pictures.
fistandantilus4.0
I liked year of the Comet. And of course, Shadows of Europe.
FrankTrollman
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank
Particle_Beam
QUOTE (FrankTrollman)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

The girls nor the guys have any cyberware. Cheap. grinbig.gif
Solomon Greene
First off, tongue in cheek and being silly,

Dumpshockers complaining about an upcoming product! Shock!


Secondly, I hack teh interwebs and work at work and I appreciate the thought. I also refrain from clicking links at work - and I appreciate the thought behind the rules for links.
Whipstitch
Silly comments on silly looking covers is fine by me. It's not like the cover is completely unsalvageable. You just need to get rid of the goofy looking chick with the goofy 'ware that's smack dab in the middle of the picture. grinbig.gif
Rotbart van Dainig
Well, there's still hope for the internal cover.
Blade
You all missed the point. It looks CG-ish so that the players of that video game that strangely choosed to be named Shadowrun will believe it's an add-on or a strategy guide for their video game.

"Hey look here: it's an augmentation to the game, it features a new human female, a cybergunarm and a brand new race!"
Rotbart van Dainig
...

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Whipstitch
I'd vote for an add on. Strategy guides for FPS games often turn out to be a lot like listening to a John Madden play by play. Of course, some people could stand to learn a lot from such chestnuts as "When shooting a guy in the face, it helps an awful lot not to miss."
fistandantilus4.0
QUOTE (FrankTrollman)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

Why? Just Why.

so cruel
ronin3338
To throw my 2¥ in on the cover... it looks PS'd. I've seen CGI images on one of the online galleries, CGTalk maybe?, that match the body. It looks like someone changed the head and arms.

On top of that the background looks like more of a mish-mash of other art as well...
Narmio
QUOTE (Particle_Beam)
QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jul 5 2007, 02:35 PM)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

The girls nor the guys have any cyberware. Cheap. grinbig.gif

Voice Modulator, 0.2E, 7,500Y.

It's either that or we're back to the "black guy in a suit" theory...
odinson
QUOTE (FrankTrollman)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

I love that song.
eidolon
QUOTE (FrankTrollman)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

*blink...blink*
TheOneRonin
QUOTE (eidolon)
QUOTE (FrankTrollman @ Jul 5 2007, 01:35 PM)
Could be worse, you could have been Rick Rolled.

-Frank

*blink...blink*

For those that don't get it, click here.
eidolon
I didn't realize it was a meme. I was just blinking in shock after seeing that horrible ass music video. biggrin.gif
TheOneRonin
Yup. Makes me wonder if all my fond memories of the 80's are pure fabrication.

fistandantilus4.0
Not if your memories involved the cartoons. Voltron, Thundercats, and Transformers. And dare I say ... the snorks. wink.gif
Eryk the Red
Most fond memories of 80's cartoons are fabrications, too. I tried watching GI Joe again. It... hurt.
fistandantilus4.0
Had the same painful experience with Thundercats a few years ago. Now I prefer to just remember them fondly. Illusions and ignorance can be so nice some times.
JonathanC
I remember the first time I watched one of my TMNT cartoon tapes from when I was a kid...I couldn't even make it past the opening theme song.
Ophis
Ulysses 31, still good even twenty years on.


Sorry had to be smug...
bibliophile20
I can only think of one or two cartoons that I would be willing to watch now, starting with the old Batman Animated Series; that was damn good in both story and execution.
FrankTrollman
The New Adventures of Mightymouse holds up quite well. When you go back and look at it with adult eyes it's even more disturbed than it seemed as a child.

But yeah, the Batman Animated Series was incredibly awesome. At this point I prefer their continuity to that of the comics they are derived from. So seemingly do the comic authors, as Harley and Renee Montoya have been back formed in as comic characters.

-Frank
Rotbart van Dainig
Gargoyles wasn't that disappointing, either - in fact, it was the closest thing to SR.
Particle_Beam
Then again, aren't most of these things you now mentioned more likely from the 90es?
odinson
Was't gargoyles into the 90's.

Smurfs was always good for a laugh. Story's good, it's that old animation that sorta sucks.
Rotbart van Dainig
True, Batman and Gargoyles were 90s.

Of course, Saber Rider was a true 80s... completly lost in translation.
Jrmie
QUOTE (MYST1C)
I dearly hope the Augmentation cover presented in Catalyst's sellsheet (PDF) is a mockup. It looks awful!

Ok, who do I sue to get new eyes after seeing... this... ?!

Well... I guess it's nice to have a prominent female character on a cover without insanely big boobs (but their proportion is somewhat strange...)... and the background is ok... her head is ok too... the two orks are kinda weird, with bizarre biomods to give that final look but whatever...

But the lower torso & legs part of the female character are just sooooo wrong. It's still a ugly cover overall, that's a shame.
Blade
QUOTE (J�r�mie)
Well... I guess it's nice to have a prominent female character on a cover without insanely big boobs

You're kidding! The name's Augmentation!
Well, it'd have been worse if it was Arsenal's cover: I mean what's a book about big guns without big boobs?
Whipstitch
QUOTE (Blade)
what's a book about big guns without big boobs?

Practical.
Moon-Hawk
Yeah, Gargoyles and Batman were good, but post-80's. TMNT and Thundercats are definitely...different than I remembered.
I don't dare watch the old He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (the one that's older than TMNT & Thundercats, not the relatively recent remake). I was pretty young at the time, but I distinctly remember that being the greatest television show ever created, and I don't want to ruin that by seeing it again.
PBTHHHHT
QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ Jul 9 2007, 12:42 PM)
Yeah, Gargoyles and Batman were good, but post-80's.  TMNT and Thundercats are definitely...different than I remembered.
I don't dare watch the old He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (the one that's older than TMNT & Thundercats, not the relatively recent remake).  I was pretty young at the time, but I distinctly remember that being the greatest television show ever created, and I don't want to ruin that by seeing it again.

Oh speaking of Thundercats, have anybody seen the fake live action thundercats trailer some fans put up on youtube? They've made live action he-man and now transformers. But... I hope to gawd they never decide to make a live action thundercats, though the furries would probably love it... And also the SURGE fans would love it too (to tie in to Shadowrun wink.gif)
Moon-Hawk
QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
Oh speaking of Thundercats, have anybody seen the fake live action thundercats trailer some fans put up on youtube?

I just looked it up.
Wow. Now I have to go watch an episode of Thundercats, just to get that image out of my head.
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